by 100 percent pure... BEEF CHUCK on May 12th, 2007

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If God was so wrathful in biblical times, why is he so patient now?

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  • by unknown on July 25th, 2007

    unknown

    The bible records the beginning of time until 2000 years ago, roughly. It may seem like a lot of smiting was going on, but, really there were hundreds and even thousands of years where there was no smiting at all. It's wrong to look at God in those terms. A study of the time lines will show that God has always been patient and only smote after extreme provocation. And then, only after repeated warnings.

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  • by Amorphous Blob on June 4th, 2007

    Amorphous Blob

    Don't make the mistake of letting others (a middle-eastern tribe from 3000 years ago, or a fear-based fundamentalist today) define the terms of God for you and say "this is it, take it or leave it".

    In the Bible-writers' defense, though, anybody's idea of God is filtered through the lens of their times and personality. It's probably only in pretty recent times that people have much objected to, eg, the story of Abraham being told to kill his own son, instead of the old-school thinking "isn't it awe-inspiring that Abraham obeyed God so much that he'd kill his own son, and God stayed his hand so it's OK anyway."

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  • by Anonymous on May 12th, 2007

    Anonymous

    Possibly due to the sacrifice Jesus made to cover our sins?

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  • by justme32 loves the weekends on June 1st, 2008

    justme32 loves the weekends

    Why shouldnt he be patient..we are killing ourselves.

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  • by The Devils Own on July 10th, 2008

    The Devils Own

    The people who imagine him are mellowing out.

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  • by Magenta on June 4th, 2007

    Magenta

    She went through Menopause. :)

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  • by Bella on April 17th, 2009

    Bella

    At least someone is paying attention! Because the OT god and the NT god ARE NOT THE SAME gods!

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  • by mgl on June 1st, 2008

    mgl

    He is on a 2000+ year paid absence leave(work stress related matters)!

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  • by PipHalsey on May 26th, 2008

    PipHalsey

    Because in biblical times, the bible was used as a set of laws, when it was hard to keep people in line. The fear, and wrath of god, works similar to the way that the fear of prison works today. Since today, less and less people believe in god as strongly as they did in biblical times, due to the advance of science answering many questions that the bible answered in those times. And a police force keeping the peace, instead of a all powerful unseeable force.

    God was never really wrathful, the stories of his wrath was just a early, and more brutal, form of the scared straight programs of today.

    And I'll probably get atleast one de-rept from a annoyed bible hugger, but that is my answer based on my closest preception of logic.

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  • by Ananamiss on May 17th, 2008

    Ananamiss

    One name only: Jesus

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  • by Anonymous on April 20th, 2008

    Anonymous

    god is the same today yesterday and tomarrow it is people who change ... in the bible it says there is nothing new under the sun everything that will happen has already happened before and nothing new will happen.. also , god made the end when he made the beggining. all wisdom and knowledge are from god.. He made the foolish things of this world to confound the wise.

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  • by koldkanuck on January 24th, 2008

    koldkanuck

    He's getting old.
    Remember when you were a toddler how strict your parents were,
    then a brother or sister came into the picture,
    they were less strict with each child until the last one who got away with murder.?
    Thats how it is with OMG.

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  • by barjacob on November 5th, 2007

    barjacob

    God was not really all that wrathful in biblical tiems, I presume you mean Old Testament/Hebrew Scripture times? He told the prophets that if this ..then that...but always forgave and held out the promise and had a remnant; He also favored the Anawim, the Little Ones of the Earth and said he wanted mercy and not just empty external worship, devoid of innter conversion of heart. Today the high incidence of AIDS, war, all destruction of life from the womb to the tomb arise from our inhumanity, but are often seen as God's punishment for our conduct or God's vindictiveness. But the thoughtful person will see that nature takes its course, we do a lot of what causes evil and God awaits the final outcome. Jesus for the Christian believer is the eikon (Greek), our word Icon or Image of the Unseen God and shows us that non-violence, forgiveness, compassion and un-conditional Love are the answer. Slowly the lesson will be learned by the culture and society but it must needs be done consistently. people who want baby seals protected cannot be anti-life for the unborn; while money used to protect "Freedom" might be better used to protect people from catastrophic medical bills and bring water to Africa, or Korea, rather than provide weapons to people we favor and want them to kill people we do not like wherever they may be on the Planet!

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  • by Quackers on May 12th, 2007

    Quackers

    I could argue that he has shown signs of being wrathful (the Asian tsunami killed 150,000; a year before an Iranian - I think it was iran- had an earthquake that killed 60,000); Pakistan and India have both had earthquakes in the past five years that killed tens of thousands; and Aids, and famine - not to mention genocide- have been sweeping across Africa for many years. But I won't make that argument, because it would sound as if these people are being punished for something and I don't believe they deserve it or even that God intervenes in earthly matters. He means for humans to work on these problems.

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  • by Cladvulk on November 11th, 2009

    Cladvulk

    Who says He was "so wrathful" in Biblical times?
    There's the story of the Flood in Genesis 7 -- which is also a story of God's faithfulness and mercy -- the story of the Sodom in Genesis 19 -- which is also a story of God's faithfulness and mercy -- and then there's the story of the 10 plagues of Egypt and the Red Sea victory in Exodus 1-15 -- which is Judaism's foundational story of God's faithfulness and mercy. But there's a lot more to the Bible and Biblical history than 17 chapters from the first 2 books. The rest of the OT is all about God's incredibly long-suffering patience and forebearance with Israel, and his mercy. Over the following 1000 years, only when Israel had gone too far for too long did God disciplines/chastises *Israel* for their sins IN ORDER TO BRING THEM BACK to righteousness and Godliness ... which is also a testimony to God's faithfulness and mercy. In fact, the most empassioned declarations of God's love and mercy are found in the OT. (Meanwhile, the entire doctrine of Hell and damnation comes out of the mouth of Christ Himself in the NT.)

    As for now, who says God isn't wrathful (as well as patient and merciful) now? What do you think the Civil War was? (Read Lincoln's 2nd Inaugural and the words to the Battle Hymn of the Republic: both recognized that the war was God's judgment on America for slavery.) What do you think World War I and II were? (God finally giving man over to the consequences of their sins of social Darwinism, imperialism, the cult of progress, and anti-Biblical Nietzchean beliefs - popular and endemic in all Europe and the Americas, not just Germany.) Whenever the world get's what's coming to it for its sins and hubris, that's God's "wrath" (and mercy) at work.

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  • by ninjax7 on April 30th, 2009

    ninjax7

    God is not lack concerning His promise but is longsuffering, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentence and an understanding of the Truth. It hurts God to let the earth go on this way. But if he comes back now a lot of people will perish because they can't stand before Him. He's waiting for you to realize the Truth...

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  • by Gonforgood on March 4th, 2009

    Gonforgood

    The Hebrews (& everyone else) in the OT was under The Law, that is, Gods absolute rights and wrongs as given to them through Moses to highlight the fact that following them is impossible. From the death and resurection of Christ to present, humanity has been under grace (by faith in Him) when we realize we do not have the ability to follow Gods laws by our own abillity.

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  • by Stormarm on February 14th, 2009

    Stormarm

    Because you spank 5-year-olds but protect them from the natural outcomes and consequences of their acts.

    But you don't spank your teenagers while you do let them face the consequences of their acts.

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  • by thatsJustme on January 7th, 2009

    thatsJustme

    HE was wrathful to those who did not HEAR, and will be again in the end to all those who still will not HEAR....HE is as patient now as HE was then....we are definitely not worthy of HIS patience & undeserved GRACE....it is our individual choice...right & wrong

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  • by Teresa on August 16th, 2008

    Teresa

    Short answer: because Jesus was crucified, thereby changing our relationship with God forever.

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  • by Dave2222 on August 13th, 2008

    Dave2222

    He gave up nobody took the hint.

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  • by 23Skidoo on July 8th, 2008

    23Skidoo

    Please ignore

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  • by 23Skidoo on July 7th, 2008

    23Skidoo

    Everyone who so claims represents god. Since there is no god to say otherwise anyone is far safer making claims on behalf of god than on their neighbor.

    I'm glad your girls good. No one should have to suffer, especially kids.

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  • by Michale on June 22nd, 2008

    Michale

    Jesus definitely is the answer to that one.

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  • by Anonymous on May 27th, 2008

    Anonymous

    According to the Bible, God was the primary ruler back then. He gave the Israelites the choice between having him as a ruler, and having elected officials like much of the other people groups. When we chose to elect our own officials, he stopped being the official, so he stopped administering judgment upon so many people.

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  • by Jane on May 27th, 2008

    Jane

    age really changes a man....

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  • by Zack on May 27th, 2008

    Zack

    God is like a parent. We where babies back in the ancient times and God is or was weening us from him like a mother does weening her child from being breast feed all the time. Just my 2 cents worth. Take my opinion anyway you like.

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  • by anonymous on May 27th, 2008

    anonymous

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  • by bigjohn on May 26th, 2008

    bigjohn

    cuase he likes watching all the tv shows we made...

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  • by Matthewisdom on May 26th, 2008

    Matthewisdom

    By becoming man He realized that we are half-retarted creations, so like a mother with a looser son who is in and out of jail...she still loves him.

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  • by Ezzy on April 20th, 2008

    Ezzy

    he was harsh because the old testament is primaraly set on the rules
    and the new testament is more patient because Jesus died on the cross and took all the sins away
    well. he gave everyone a chance for a clean slate.

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  • by Retro_Rebel on April 20th, 2008

    Retro_Rebel

    Because he is fake. Everything was in chaos a long time ago.

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  • by Glowz on April 20th, 2008

    Glowz

    God's Mercy and Grace.

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  • by thatsJustme on April 20th, 2008

    thatsJustme

    HE is patient now, because HE does not deal with humanity the way HE did in OLD and NEW TESTAMENT times anymore.....after Christ we have FREE WILL. no more Apostles, Prophets,Angels, Moses, Abraham's, John the Baptists, miracles,etc. The only thing that will come about are the Prophecies of Revelations and then HE comes....
    HE is the same as HE always was...

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  • by maesterthief on April 20th, 2008

    maesterthief

    You must consider that He was harsh with the Jews, who knew all of the commandments by heart, and if anyone broke them, they were extremely rebellious, and God would not allow His chosen people to corrupt themselves like that.

    There is also two different ways to think of this as well. Some believe that God deals with man in dispensations, in that He deals with man in different ways in different times, for they were Jews and we are Gentiles. They were under the law, and we are under grace.

    Many believe that it is the presence of the Bride of Christ or the Christians that preserve the peace on earth, for once the Bride is raptured, the Holy Spirit will leave. Many believe that He is on earth to deal with man to lead them to repentance and salvation and to convict Christians of their sin and strengthen their walk with Him, but once Christians are gone, the grace will be gone, and tribulation will begin.

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  • by thatsJustme on April 20th, 2008

    thatsJustme

    if we read the Old Testament and see all the chance after chances HE gave HIS chosen, the Jews or Israelites and still they went right back to idol worship..you would see and understand the patient and loving God that HE is, and understand the Wrath HE had and felt...HE was patient then and HE still is...the unbelievers after New Testament times, will not see HIS wrath again until Judgement Day.... I am grateful HE finally gave up on having a chosen and opened up salvation to all through Jesus Christ the Messiah that the Jews always knew would come....some Jews accepted HIM, some didn't...some Gentiles accept HIM , some don't....it is our choice....

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  • by Jimmyp on April 20th, 2008

    Jimmyp

    He has a better PR agency now.

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  • by dr james on April 20th, 2008

    dr james

    because Jesus is in charge these days and is holding Him back..by intercession.. but thats not gonna work for too much longer

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  • by Penal Colony is wicked marrying Andy on March 27th, 2008

    Penal Colony is wicked marrying Andy

    He was probably going through puberty at the time. You know how teen angst can be...

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  • by philosopher-saint on March 27th, 2008

    philosopher-saint

    This will likely be misunderstood, but: Because *humanity* has changed!

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  • by Bitto on March 27th, 2008

    Bitto

    He came to the conclusion that his 7-day experiment was a flop!

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  • by Shane on March 27th, 2008

    Shane

    Hi Beef Chuck,

    Please read your bible pertaining to the verse below.

    Eph 3:2

    2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to youward:
    KJV

    We are living in a period of GRACE where every human being that has heard the Gospel of Jesus Christ has an opportunity to make a choice to recieve the gift of eternal life. It is a gift. One cannot earn it or even deserves it.

    Beef it is good to ask questions. However be careful who you are asking these questions. Man sometimes will mislead you to believe his own explanations. Therefore I urge you to ask God the Holy Spirit to teach you.

    John 14:26

    26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
    KJV

    If you have not received Jesus as your personal Saviour I urge you to do so.

    May the Lord richly Bless you.

    Regards

    Shane Ramlall
    Email: shane@ispace.co.za

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  • by miteb on January 24th, 2008

    miteb

    And what makes you think he is patient now?

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  • by Seraphim Shinobi on January 18th, 2008

    Seraphim Shinobi

    because he is letting us destroy ourselves to teach us a lesson.

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  • by Zebulon on January 18th, 2008

    Zebulon

    Because now we have video cameras.

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  • by -O-uknow on January 18th, 2008

    -O-uknow

    It took time to realize we are slow learners.

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  • by Anonymous on January 18th, 2008

    Anonymous

    That is why Jesus was sent. To find out more read the new testament

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  • by Mequel on November 5th, 2007

    Mequel

    I think you have picked the right word there Beef Chuck. Patience can be seen as 'waiting' or the 'willingness to supress'. Understand that God's judgement in the old Testament was now!
    Atonement from sin was achieved through blood sacrifice.
    God then took on the body of flesh and paid the ultimate sacrifice that not just His chosen people could access eternal life but all mankind.

    He purchased back what was stolen in the Garden of Eden with His own blood. Then He says.. "He who believes on me'. It becomes a choice. The Scriptures say that one day, because of the choices we make in this life will result in a judgement. Two books are opened.. The first is the Scriptures.. we are judged from God's Word, the manual which He has given us to live our lives. Then another book is opened, The Book of Life. Who's name is written in that book will enter into the Kingdom of God.

    God still is wrathful against evil. The supression of that wrath will be unleashed. Read Revelation for insight.

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  • by Dog_Star on June 6th, 2007

    Dog_Star

    I think he is letting Mother Nature give us a wake up call, think about it, tsunamis, hurricanes etc and it appears to be getting worse.I'm sure there is something in the Bible about this,its a long time since I read a Bible so I'm a bit rusty on the subject.

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  • by sunshine on June 6th, 2007

    sunshine

    maybe He thinks we should learn from places like sodom and gamorrah. the two cities were bombarded with fire from heaven.

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