by Zandalee.Lonely.Lunatic.3yrs-here on March 13th, 2007

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I have been told that suicide is selfish, weak and cowardly, however I think that it is a primarily selfless act and that it takes a great deal of courage and strength to confront death and overcome the instinct of self-preservation: What's your opinion?

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  • by Anonymous on March 13th, 2007

    Anonymous

    IF I had all my funeral and other preparations arranged, have no family that would be hurt or left worse off without me financially or otherwise, and have taken care of my obligations so my death would not put any burden - financial or otherwise on anyone else, I should have the right to end my life if the quality is, from my SANE standpoint, very low. It is a subjective decision a person can make that is justified in my opinion. Legal or not, a person who smokes or drinks or uses drugs hurts and costs society and their family alot more than someone who decides to end their life because they feel the quality is so low they simply do not care to go on with it any longer.

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  • by Penny The Wise on March 13th, 2007

    Penny The Wise

    I think it has two sides. When someone commits suicide, they see it as doing everyone else a favor. Or at least as a depressed person, this is how I sometimes see things at my lowest point. I often have felt that if I were gone, I wouldn't bother anyone, or take up space, or take up money, and that I would be doing a good thing. For the flip side, a person who is a loved one of a person who has commited suicide, they see it as a burden. They suddenly have this stress of a loved one dieing, the burden of paying for a funeral, if it is the spouse, being the soul parent and bread-winner, and is a hard thing to cope with. Guilt and stress is huge. It really depends on which side you are on. I can agree with both sides and I can't exactly pick a side.

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  • by Anonymous on May 25th, 2008

    Anonymous

    I tried to commit suicide years ago. And it wasn't for attention.
    I felt it took a lot of courage - after all, I had no 100% guarantee of what I was getting myself into.
    I didn't feel like a weakling, I was sure others didn't do it because THEY were weak and just wanted to project their feelings unto suicidal people.
    I felt I was being very selfless - perhaps some would grieve for a few days, then move on with their lives. All the better for my not being a part of it any longer.
    Strength? I was empowered after all. I had the final say. How much more powerful is that.
    Instinct of self-preservation? Not too sure on that one, since I didn't want to preserve my life. This was not a scare tactic, this was going to be the end.

    Well, I survived the suicide attempt. And I hated that I had done so. In fact, one of my first thoughts was: next attempt whatever I did wrong, I have to make sure I get it right!

    So I come back to consciousness after being in a coma for days. And this is what I found:
    A heartbroken wife (now ex-wife, and I don't blame her one bit) for not thinking I'd be leaving her alone.
    3 children that didn't have a clue what had happened, but were smart enough to figure out it was bad and that somehow I hadn't thought of them first, but rather of myself and my pain. Both their mother and they are 100% correct. It was the most selfish thing I ever did. Ever.
    Cowardly? I realized my wife, kids, parents, friends continued to move forward, including me in their lives. And I realized what 'strength' and 'courage' and 'selfless' really was.
    And I saw that they had not only the instict of their own self-preservation, but to carry enough for me until I could have some of my own again.

    What's my opinion? If I could turn back time, I would NEVER have let those thoughts get the better part of me. I wish I could go back and undo that day.

    And I wish I had the 'courage' to see how 'weak and cowardly' I was going to behave by doing this. And how selfish, how horribly selfish I was going to be behaving in carying it through. How narcisistic I was behaving, while in my mind making myself out to be so 'noble' I would get out of everyone's way so we could all be happier.
    In one word, it was bullshit, and I was full of it.

    It takes an enormous amount of courage, strength and selflesness to face life. And the only ones that overcome the instinct of self-preservation out of selflesness are the ones that though wanting to live, give their lives for us.

    I've been told I'm very opinionated. I know without a doubt, having lived this and putting so many through such a horrible nightmare has cemented my opinions on this one.

    Life is ironic. Since then, I've had some very close to me committ suicide. While I understood their pain, I see none as being anything but what I was. A selfish, weak coward that chose to hurt others than to fight the good fight to overcome their own.

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  • by unknown on March 13th, 2007

    unknown

    I'm sure the people left behind don't find it so courageous. It's a slap in the face to everyone who cares about you and to all of us who manage to stick it out till the natural end. It's the most selfish thing you can do. It's telling everyone that you just don't care enough about them to stick around.

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  • by jtolb65 on April 8th, 2007

    jtolb65

    As a person who attempted suicide, I can tell you from experience that it was the single most cowardly act I have ever taken.
    Trying to kid yourself that you're "confronting death" when, in reality you are hiding from yourself the fact that you don't have the strength of will to confront life.
    Suicide leaves behind friends and family who now have the added burden of waking up every morning with the aching possibilities of what might have been instead of a plot in a cemetary.

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  • by LynfromNM on March 13th, 2007

    LynfromNM

    Ironically, a selfless act can be the most selfish thing of all. The only person who might benefit from a suicide is the person who commits the act. Even if you don't think you are doing anyone any good as a living being, how does a suicide improve on that picture? If you can muster courage and strength to die, can't you muster courage and strength to live? What are the odds here - chances are, more people will benefit if you live than if you take your life.
    I think that suicide is brave and selfish if you are confronted with a situation in which others might die if you live, but 99.9% of the human race will never be in that position.
    It's certainly a personal choice, and people who commit suicide are the only ones in a position to measure their pain and their circumstances. I don't judge that. But I don't see any way in which it is selfless.

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  • by mommaskye on March 13th, 2007

    mommaskye

    my 15 year old daughters 2 best friends just killed themselves this weekend..I can tell you she is blaming herself, maybe she did not listen enough, hang around them as much, she has been in tears for 3 days..do I think it is a selfless act no way...leaving people behind who genuinly care about you, and suffer because they lost you with no real answers as to why is really selfish to me...

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  • by tina on November 13th, 2009

    tina

    my husband of 8years blew his brains out and left me to find him. we loved each other very much, and had done a lot in 8 years. he recently had lost his job, and lost money in the stock market, he did not tell me how much. i knew he was down, but just like any other time for any reason i figured with my love and support he'd get through it. i told him and he knew anyways that i was not ashamed of him even if he worked at burger king, i was patient, and tryed to get him to talk about his feelings. he made this choice without really telling me the truth and then not working it out together as a team, no matter how hard it would have been. so he left me to pay the mortgage, his credit cards, lawyers, realitors, all without his help. i always thought our love could work through anything, well he didn't give it enough of a chance, he left me with a broken heart, and i'm just supposed to start my life over in all this pain.it feels like a selfish choice to me right now.

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  • by katydid15 on September 27th, 2007

    katydid15

    Suicide is neither selfish or selfless. Suicidal tendancies are a sign of mental illness and should be treated as such.

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  • by Gene H on February 13th, 2009

    Gene H

    I've had two friend commit suicide within 8 months of each other. I think it takes quite a lot of courage. All this 'oh, it's selfish' talk is wrong. No one knows the hell that pushes a person to suicide. It is selfish to condemn the suicide.

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  • by killdrphil - reasonable for a madman on February 15th, 2008

    killdrphil - reasonable for a madman

    It's neither selfish nor unselfish, neither cowardly nor courageous. It's just desperation. That's all it is.

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  • by Mushen on March 13th, 2007

    Mushen

    The reason for suicide being considered selfish refers to the chaos reigned upon family/friends/loved ones who are left behind once death has occurred. They are ones who have to confront death and overcome and move on from it. It could take years and years, perhaps a lifetime, perhaps less. Imagine, if your (for example) spouse committed suicide and left you to explain, cope, assist in coming to terms with and accepting (without any accountability), the emotional integrity of your child and at the same time yourself. Where d'you start exactly? First question will be 'why', next up, probably along the lines of 'was it something I did/said', followed with 'I thought they [dead person] loved me'. A person filled with misery and despair even to the point of wishing death would come and end it all, still does not have the right to inflict the same upon those around them. Somebody thinking about suicide is somebody, who is only considering themselves, how they feel, their misery/pain etc. Why would you want to make those around you feel miserable and unhappy like you you do yourself? How do you justify inflicting grief and turmoil onto others? It is weak and self motivated to adopt an attitude of 'I feel bad therefore I have the right to make everybody else feel as bad as I do' - thus I shall kill myself. I have this right because how I feel is more important that anything else including those I leave behind. It does not matter to me how unhappy they will be or how many years it will take before for emotional impact of my death is overcome. I'm a VIP and sod everyone else'.

    Hmmm, nice. Very brave, most courageous.

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  • by Barcaluv on February 13th, 2009

    Barcaluv

    I don't think the decision to take one's life can be easily divided or classified in terms of courage or cowardice.
    It is a complex issue and the reasons for committing suicide can be varied, from extreme depression, mental inestability, etc.
    So when people say "he/she was a coward for commiting suicide" they're probably passing a judgment by their own parameters and values without analyzing the causes that lead to that act.

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  • by shrinkess on February 13th, 2009

    shrinkess

    I think there isn't just one answer. If I were dying and in incredible pain, I might do it. There isn't anything noble about enduring agony. However, there are many suicides that don't have to happen. People who are deeply depressed and don't say anything are denying themselves an opportunity to feel better.

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  • by Dibley on November 21st, 2008

    Dibley

    I think it is just what people say. It is your life, why should you have to put up with painful depression just to please other people. If they had even half of the pain I feel then they would want to die. I've had all the tablets out there, all the help, they only help people when there is a possible way out.

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  • by I'm Not Becky on November 6th, 2008

    I'm Not Becky

    The great error most make is thinking of suicide as just one thing. Like everything in life it is a complicated issue. Biological health, experiences, perceptions about the past, present & future.

    A severely depressed person does not have what they need to get well. Their hope, will & desire are absent. This is a key reason why a physically ill person can overcome their dire circumstances, they still have an open mind.

    In most instances suicide is not a selfish thing at all. If you've tried 30-40 medications, if you've tried God, if you've asked for help from a friend and they say "suck it up", and if you've found nothing inside yourself to believe in a better future, looking for an end to immense pain is not cowardly or selfish, it's entirely normal.

    Those of us who have attempted suicide, I can promise you, we do consider what our act will do to those left behind but is their potential pain worse than our actual pain?

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  • by Anonymous on September 9th, 2008

    Anonymous

    Since we never ask to be brought into this world it is no ones business what we do with ourselves.Certainly not the damned government, or law.Think of it as you wish. Suicide is neither cowardly/selfish, or courageous/honorable. If i kill myself it's because I choose to. This world tries its goddamnedest to destroy you then acts like a constipated chimp when you have had enough of its BS. Religions, governments, etc. The U S allows the almighty state to treat one in a manner that makes the Nazi Gestapo look like the Munchkins on the Wizard of Oz if one attempts it.I have no wife or kids, so when my parents go I will have no one to be a burden to. When I decide to do it, it will be in a manner no one will ever know.

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  • by Icebox April on June 29th, 2008

    Icebox April

    I do not find suicide to be selfish. It's a very personal affair, and for other people to say to someone not to do it because of what OTHER people will think or feel about them, is quite selfish of the person asking I think. Who is anyone think that they're so great that they should be enough to keep someone who wants to kill themselves from doing it?

    I have mixed feelings on whether or not it is weak. It's hard to actually carry out, but an easy way to fix (or I guess end) whatever problems you have. It is weak to not try to tough it out or fix it otherwise.

    I don't find it to be cowardly, just because it doesn't really have much to do with being brave or not. It has more to do with either being hopeful or feeling hopeless.

    However, I do not think it is selfless either. it's not helping anybody. You don't have to be brave to be desperate enough to shove some pills down your throat, and you don't have to be strong to never wake up again. Suicide isn't overcoming the instinct of self-preservation anyway, since they think it's better for them than anything else.

    I think that it is the wrong choice, mostly because nothing that's happening to the people who commit it is going to last forever. Somehow people just don't seem to see that. But I don't have a problem with (nor do I have much sympathy for) people who consider doing or did do it. If they want to, I guess I'm no one to judge whether or not their life is so horrible that it would be better that they didn't have to bear it. And I think other people should mind their business and not make it such a problem for THEM when someone DOES do it. Because really, whoever dies is the one that had the problem anyway. Not you because you knew or cared about them.

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  • by Anon on March 31st, 2007

    Anon

    To say that committing suicide is selfish is just as simplistic as saying that it is selfless. The argument that you should continue suffering because to end that suffering will hurt someone else is pretty selfish of the the family/friends of the person. The overall message I've seen here is that it appears that "selfish" is a very large part of the human condition. Family/friends are selfish for expecting someone to endure un-endurable pain for their benefit, and the suicide committer is selfish for ending their pain at the expense of causing others pain. I don't think there is a black and white answer.
    I do know that pain is a personal thing and therefore it is a selfish thing. No one can feel your pain, and everyone feels pain differently, so to give it an overall label of courageous or cowardly doesn't seem possible

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  • by wmax351 on March 13th, 2007

    wmax351

    It is weak. It is giving up and throwing in the towel. You only get one life, and after it there is nothing. You may end the pain for yourself, but you create pain for everyone. Whatever someone's goal is for suicide, they won't get to see it through. There is no relief from pain, just nothingness.

    Obviously, this is an atheist's opinion. My high school has had three suicides in the past four years. All of these people had no real reason to kill themselves.

    Article: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/01/22/MNGDANML2R1.DTL

    If you are thinking about suicide, call the National Hope Line Network at 1(800) SUICIDE (784-2433)

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  • by Mikeisha on February 13th, 2009

    Mikeisha

    I certainly do think suicide requires a great deal of courage, especially for people who are aware that God says that that is one of the only sins you cannot be forgiven for and that you will never live again. An individual ending their own life is such a bold and courageous action any way you look at it. Yes, they are copping out of their problems, but, they are also escaping them. However, I understand why some think it's cowardly.

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  • by Midnite1869 on February 13th, 2009

    Midnite1869

    Suicide is the act desperation of escaping one's problems they feel they can't handle. Bills, depression, and so on that overwhelms a person to the point instead of asking for help they would throw it all away. The only courage that has been noted through taking one’s life was in old Japan where one would take their life so dishonor would not fall on their family. Maybe even during war so knowledge that could hurt your allies wouldn’t fall into enemy hands. Beyond that they are fighting to make sure it don’t hurt and that’s not courage.

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  • by CaRbOnPrOdUcK is Baccuss on February 13th, 2009

    CaRbOnPrOdUcK is  Baccuss

    Cowardly not as much as cruelty. The known suffering left in it's wake is anything but kind.

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  • by ChuckExAnon on February 13th, 2009

    ChuckExAnon

    There are all kinds of reasons for suicide, but I feel that the person deciding on doing so finds it too difficult to address the troublesome issues in his/her life and decides it's just easier to stop trying and pull the plug him/herself.

    It is a selfish act in that there are sometimes many who suffer from the loss...and the one who commits the suicide seemingly gives insufficient weight to that fact.

    My large family and I just suffered such a loss, a 28-year old grand nephew, an alcoholic, within the past month.

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  • by anddeb on February 13th, 2009

    anddeb

    No it is the lowest of self depression and hatred for oneself's.

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  • by Rocket on February 13th, 2009

    Rocket

    Yes I think it requires courage... People view it at cowardly because you are taking a quick way out of your troubles in this life. I think suicide requires mental illness. To kill yourself you must have something really wrong in your mind. It is sad that some people can’t find the answers they need and choose that as their answer. BTW my father committed suicide…

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  • by .avallach on February 13th, 2009

    .avallach

    People generally use suicide as a 'way out' of something. They don't think they can get out of their situation or that they'll ever get over feeling a certain way so they want to end it. That's not courage, fixing your situation, or dealing with your feelings, that's courage.

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  • by killdrphil - reasonable for a madman on February 13th, 2009

    killdrphil - reasonable for a madman

    No. There is never courage involved in escaping something.

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  • by robsy07 on November 20th, 2008

    robsy07

    You people who oppose suicide are so blind. And I can see why, considering your heads are so far up your own asses. The simple fact of the matter is that you are not right. But at the same time neither is the suicidal person. You have to understand that it's subjective(if you are for/against suicide and you don't know what subjecive means then you don't have a valid opinion).

    If you think life is great then that's fine. Go and live your life to the full. Do whatever the fuck you want. No one's stopping you.

    If you think life is shit then that's fine. Go kill yourself. Do whatever the fuck you want. But in this case you will definitely have people who want to stop you.

    So what's the difference? Answer: opinion. And opinion is not fact. If you don't get what I'm saying straight off then you had better think about it.

    The fact of the matter is that most of the people who thought life is shit are dead. That's the truth. How can the dead voice their opinion? They can't. And I don't think they gave a shit either way. They realised what's up.

    So what we're left with is 6 billion of those who are of the opinion that life is great/worth living and around a hundred thousand of those who are suicidal, at any one time. Who's opinion do you think is gonna be portrayed as 'right'? Majority rules after all....

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  • by NightTripper on August 23rd, 2008

    NightTripper

    i see both sides except for when you say it is selfLESS. could you explain how it's selfless?

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  • by bagicide stayed 10 months too long on August 17th, 2008

    bagicide stayed 10 months too long

    Go ask that question of someone whose child has committed suicide. Go look at the pain in the face of a parent. I have. Some friends of mine lost a son to suicide. Look them in the eye and tell them its selfless. I don't think you'd like the reaction.

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  • by Anonymous on July 9th, 2008

    Anonymous

    My brother in law hung himself this past weekend. He had three kids all under the age of 6. His four year old is constantly crying and asking why. As a parent your life purpose is to protect, love, and nurture your children. His act has destroyed them and only God knows if they will ever get better. All of this because his wife wanted a divorce. Divorce would have been a better option for his poor children and wife. I can not explain to you the pain our family is going through and how unreal the whole thing is. Unless this happens to you, you can not fathom the reality of the torture the ones left behind face.

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  • by thenxtmrsdarcy on June 20th, 2008

    thenxtmrsdarcy

    Coming from a person who struggles with this manner of thinking, I believe that one can become so focused on the "outside" and trying to please everyone else that that person neglects his or her own needs. Which pretty much is not healthy. Because you make yourself miserable trying to make everyone else happy which is impossible. Selflessness can become a very numbing, very powerful thing in itself. I don't think it can be categorized as any of the above. Those who are suicidal are (with the exception of some medically assisted suicides) not thinking rationally. They're thinking through their depression, which is never a decent guide for making great decisions.

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  • by Anonymous on November 18th, 2007

    Anonymous

    Well, yes. It does take a great deal of strength and courage to face something so horrible. But it too is a cowardly and weak and yes selfish thing.

    Anytime we face something we fear requires courage. But to seek it out in favor of dealing with the true problems we face in life is cowardly.

    The strength it takes to stare at death and attempt to overcome it's boundaries is weighed by the weakness of giving in on our struggle for survival.

    The choices of life and death are never easy. Sometimes the mind clouds our judgement. Sometimes our heart clouds our mind. And sometimes others cloud our heart. As in all cases dealing with life and death, the best you can do is talk with someone. Someone who knows how to listen.

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  • by JTP on October 13th, 2007

    JTP

    No idea if I answered before, but heres what I believe.

    I know for a fact that I will commit suicide. When I am old or if I get diagnosed with a disease that cannot be cured (my mother had cancer, and there is a very large chance it will manifest in me) I will commit suicide. I will not die on a hospital bed, hooked up to machines.

    Suicide is not a selfless act, it hurts those around you, and for those who die in their homes, who do you think will find the body (or the peices depending on the method)? Your loved ones. It is never a selfless act, however it is everyones right to decide to die how they wish, no one can take that away from you.

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  • Thank you, someone thinks so... I agree with you.
    Well, I don't think it's always either selfless or selfish, and it CAN be selfish, but not for the reasons people usually say it is.
    I think it makes no sense to say it's weak and cowardly -- if you have ever tried it, you know how much guts it takes to do so...
    If you think about it, it's selfish for someone to call another person selfish for committing suicide.

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  • by Phil_Osipher on April 13th, 2007

    Phil_Osipher

    Good question!

    Military personnel are expected to commit suicide (in various guises) all the time and this is obviously a very selfless act. I have great believe in personal choice; if I choose to die it is up to me, if I choose to live it is up to me. Bottom line it is after all said a done MY life! I think the the reasoning behind the selfish act etc. is because the people left behind do not want to cope with it - the grief, the torture of not knowing why and the clearing up of the mess! If you prepared the way and took care to explain your reasons for wanting to do it ect. and prepared your own funeral etc. then what is the problem? It's like keeping someone alive on support if they don't want it, you deal with it they don't have to, they may want to die, let them! It's their choice.

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  • by Anonymous on March 21st, 2007

    Anonymous

    About two yaers ago my wife committed suicide. I can say I have learned some things from the loss. First of all it has nothing to do with cowardly. This would imply that courage could possibly be an issue as well. No way. She was very depressed ( this was unknown to me at the time ) and lost hope. Weakness is realative to our history and view of ourself. We all have strenghts and weaknesses. Selfish, somehow maybe if you look at it in this light. When you have lost all hope and are convinced of never regaining it ( depression can do this to you ), death may seem the only option. I survived my trial with depression but it took a lot of help from a lot of committed people to see me through and I was never depressed until her death. This is so hard to understand until youve experienced it but believe me, ANYONE can fall to this given the wrong situations at the wrong time! Im diong much better now, two years later, but sometimes it hurts.

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  • by easthill on March 13th, 2007

    easthill

    When I think of a courageous individual who confronts death and overcomes the instinct of self-preservation, I picture someone running into a burning building to rescue someone. THAT is courage.

    I agree that there is an element of courage needed to actually commit sucicide, but I would argue that it is more courageous to face whatever it is that life throws at you. Selfless it is not! Like many have already said here, to me it is the ultimate act of selfishness. Whether you are religious or not, a life, especially a human life, should be viewed with reverance and sanctity. What a gift it is. What a tragedy when it ends too early.

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  • by fcuk the world on October 8th, 2009

    fcuk the world

    it is a persons right to decide when they want to die who gives a fuck about family ...if they cared so much then the person wouldn't be so fucked up that they wanted to die i know suicide hurts the people who are left behind (i know from experience)but thats life...life is a bitch then you die!!!!!!

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  • by MrJosh on May 16th, 2009

    MrJosh

    I would disagree with you. While it may take a great deal of courage to commit suicide, isn't the act being done because you lack the courage to live on?

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  • by xxx on February 13th, 2009

    xxx

    wow, thats a deep question. i think its more of a matter of being a coward by running away from your problems and not being brave enough to deal with them or handle them. its not about how brave or cowardly actually comitting the act of killing yourself is.
    and its a really stupid way to impress people.

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  • by qwerty on February 13th, 2009

    qwerty

    no it is a cowardly way of not dealing with life. when the going gets tough the weak kill themselves

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  • by Dezimae is FINALLY 21 on February 13th, 2009

    Dezimae is FINALLY 21

    it is cowardly. i dont think it requires courage at all. courage is facing the problems in their lives and moving forward. that and its selfish. you leave behind loved ones who cared about you because you couldnt handle it. there is always a better option than suicide

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  • by ICU says April is Autism Awareness Mo. on February 13th, 2009

    ICU says April is Autism Awareness Mo.

    People look at it as cowardly because they are not strong enough to face life. Courage? I am unsure about that one.

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  • by Spicy Hot on February 13th, 2009

    Spicy Hot

    It is cowardly, they only think of theirselves.

    What's brave about giving up?

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  • by lahaina on December 7th, 2008

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    The number one cause of death for people suffering from fibromyalgia is suicide. My wife has this horrible condition and explains the peak pain episodes this way. Imagine having your arms or legs burned and then having the skin peeled off like tights or long gloves--pain like that. It is a pain that comes and goes. It is something most of us cannot imagine. There are degrees of pain and different symptoms of course. But those are hers. She has talked very matter of factly about suicide as an eventual option.

    I love her with all my heart and don't know if I will be able to carry on if she leaves this way. She has told me that she will not do it unexpectedly and that she knows how to make hers a peaceful death. In this circumstance I think that, while selfish, her suicide would be no more and no less than a surrender after a long fight. This is a fight we will all lose, by the way. To make it end at a time one's own choosing requires a clarity of thought that most of us cannot grasp.

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  • by emo bunny on October 17th, 2008

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    i think ur very write and very smart but suicide is not the answer and never will be. have u every thought about what happens after u commit suicide. on that note i think theirs allot of things that might happen depending on your religious beliefs. one of the things i think is after u commit suicide u will become a ghost because ur soul is uneasy and probably bares a lot of anger and sadness so you'll be trapped to walk the earth until u find peace with yourself and others who harmed u . so why not do that before hand and settle things with yourself cus Ur gonna have to do it sometime . but that's just what i think its not a proven fact.

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  • by robsy07 on October 7th, 2008

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    I don't think it's selfish to want to commit suicide. I think it's selfish of the suicidal person's family to force them to want to live. I think it's selfish of people to judge suicidal people when they haven't been in that position before.

    Happiness, contrary to what many people believe, comes from within. Some people can be 'happy' even after a family member kills themselves because that's their disposition. On the other end of the spectrum, some people will be 'unhappy' even if they're millionaires or seem to have the 'perfect' life. Some can't help being happy and some can't help being sad, depressed, hopeless(whatever you want to call it).

    Some people are unhappy all the time and it's not their fault. It's part of the human condition. Unfortunately humans are intelligent enough to not only be happy and unhappy, but to actually go against what's 'natural'. It's not natural to WANT to die and that's why people fear it and think it's a sign of 'weakness' when someone wants to. It is infact (like everything) a matter of opinion. Your opinion is your reality.

    A 'depressed' person's logic goes something like this: What's the point in life if it only ends in death? Your brain stops functioning when you die so you will forget everyone you have ever known, including family and friends. Every experience you have, be it bad or good, will be forgotten. People will remember you(relative meaning) but so what? Soon they will be dead etc. etc. So what is the OVERALL MEANING of life?
    Answer: No one KNOWS for sure.

    (They have a valid point. Whether you want to deal with the truth or not is up to you.)

    The hardest thing for me to get to grips with is how people can go about living their lives without giving it any kind of thought. Sure, people think about the bills to be paid etc. But people don't think about the overall meaning. They just seem to go on blindly without questioning anything. They do this for many reasons: I think ignorance is the main one. That's where religion comes in. People like being assured that there "definitely is a God" and he will look after us no matter what. People don't like not 'knowing everything'.

    I suppose my main point is who's point of view is right? Is there a right? Is there a wrong? That's for you to decide. But decide for yourself. Don't let someone else influence your opinion totally. And don't force your opinion on anyone else. Finally don't dismiss someone elses opinion as 'depression'.

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  • by Demarini on July 25th, 2008

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    I hate to answer this because I have no personal experience, and most of us don't, but I have noticed a pattern. It has seemed like everyone with experience that had posted a story of their own has come to the realization if they attempted, or had felt that it was if they knew someone who had, selfish to an extreme. I don't want to sound arrogant, but I know that my family loves me very much, and if I died, I would leave them hurt for the rest of their lives. They might not show it after some time, but the scar will always be there. And if someone in my family or a close friend did that, I would be unbelievably hurt, and I'm not sure, but I would probably start to blame myself and have doubts about what I could have done.

    We can't just all go ahead and decide whether it is courageous or cowardly. You can't just have one sole opinion on the human mind like that, because every person thinks differently in one way or another. One person may be overwhelmed with stress, and let those thoughts get the better of them and take their life. One person might feel that the world hates them and thinks they are doing people a favor. The stories vary.

    I feel bad for people who commit suicide, because they really don't know the impact they may have on the people around them. Their mind is clouded with negative thoughts of hate and stress. It's a shame that they don't go and seek help before making such a rash decision, but it happens quite often, and we have to do our best to fight those thoughts, and keep positive because life is a gift, and you only have one. Make the best of it because life is only as great as you make it to be.

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