by CLURT on January 30th, 2009

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Doesn't throwing out the word "begotten" from John 3:16 confirm what the HQ has been saying for about 1400 years, that Jesus was not begotten by God, that God DOES NOT begett?

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  • by thatsJustme on January 30th, 2009

    thatsJustme

    Beget, begotten=to bring into being......HE may not of sired in the human way but HE certainly brought HIM into being.....
    i sure find it fascintaing that the HQ made a point to say, these many, many, yrs. back that Jesus was not begotten by God? but the Holy bible nevers mentions the HQ prophet? i don't believe mohammed was a Jehovah's prophet anymore than Islam believes Jesus was the Messiah....
    these moslem and hq questions belong in the Islam section of AB.....reason there rather than among the Christian section of AB....we aren't in ur section undermining and slandering ur prophet or hq...because we don't care about them aren't interested...the things u say here are BLASPHEMOUS to our GOD and us....

    so, go figure.....

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  • by mrbuddhafreak on January 30th, 2009

    mrbuddhafreak

    Doesn't throwing out the word "not" from most of the commandments create a crapload of sins of omission over the last 3500 years?

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  • by Texasescimo on May 14th, 2010

    Texasescimo

    The following is in reference to:
    http://www.answerbag.com/a_view/9008081

    I though that I would post this here so that the links would be clickable.
    http://www.codexsinaiticus.org/en/

    When comparing the King James Version and various other versions, there are several changes that should be observed. They may notice how John 1:18 had been changed. http://www.studylight.org/par/view.cgi?query=joh+1%3A18&l1=en&t1=reb§ion=0&l2=en&t2=nas&new=1&sv=1&sr=1&oq=joh%25201%3A18&submit=Search&nb=joh&ng=1&ncc=1 /./ http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=1&t=NASB#conc/18 /././
    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=%20john1:18;&version=49;45;50; ././ http://interlinearbible.org/john/1.htm /././ http://scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/NTpdf/joh1.pdf
    They may notice the addition at 1John 5:7,8, is not included in the older manuscripts. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1John5:7-8;&version=31;77;50;51;49; They may notice how the original word "he" was replaced with "God" at 1Tim 3:16, in later manuscripts, which is why some people think that God was manifested in the flesh rather than God's son. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1Tim3:16;&version=31;47;78;47;49; /.
    Notice also that the King James Version, based on later manuscripts, has Jesus on earth and in heaven at the same time at John 3:13. The Sinaitic and the Vatican MS 1209 do not have the additional words of "which is in heaven". http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%203:13&version=KJV;HCSB;NKJV;NIV;NASB
    Most though, probably wan't change anything and probably think the scriptures about handling serpents as a sign of those that believe really was part of the inspired word. (Makr 16:17,18) http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark16:9-20;&version=31;50;78;47;49;
    In 2Pet 3:10 earlier manuscripts have the earth as being discovered, where as later ones have it being burned up. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2Pet%203:10&version=ESV;HCSB;NIV;NKJV;NASB

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  • by my2cents on May 9th, 2010

    my2cents

    I do not know what the HQ says. But I do not believe in "throwing out" any words from the Bible. That is not how we study the word. We are to study all of the word not just the parts that suit us.
    --
    John3:16
    16 For God ">so loved the world that he gave his ONLY BEGOTTEN Son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life

    -3439. monogenés

    only begotten
    Original Word: μονογενής
    Transliteration: monogenés
    Phonetic Spelling: (mon-og-en-ace')
    Short Definition: only begotten

    only begotten, child.

    From monos and ginomai; only-born, i.e. Sole -- only (begotten, child).
    ==
    3205. yalad

    to bear, bring forth, beget
    Original Word: יָלַד
    Transliteration: yalad
    Phonetic Spelling: (yaw-lad')
    Short Definition: bear

    bear, beget, birthday, born, make to bring forth children, young, bring up, calve,

    A primitive root; to bear young; causatively, to beget; medically, to act as midwife; specifically, to show lineage -- bear, beget, birth((-day)), born, (make to) bring forth (children, young), bring up, calve, child, come, be delivered (of a child), time of delivery, gender, hatch, labour, (do the office of a) midwife, declare pedigrees, be the son of, (woman in, woman that) travail(-eth, -ing woman).

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  • by armourbearer on May 7th, 2010

    armourbearer

    you are confusing the word begotten with beget or misunderstanding what the word begotten means. It means only:

    Result of search for "begotten":
    3439. monogenes mon-og-en-ace' from 3441 and 1096; only-born, i.e. sole:--only (begotten, child).

    Result of search for "beget":
    3205 yalad yaw-lad' a primitive root; to bear young; causatively, to beget; medically, to act as midwife; specifically, to show lineage:--bear, beget, birth((-day)), born, (make to) bring forth (children, young), bring up, calve, child, come, be delivered (of a child), time of delivery, gender, hatch, labour, (do the office of a) midwife, declare pedigrees, be the son of, (woman in, woman that) travail(-eth, -ing woman).

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  • by Anonymous on January 30th, 2009

    Anonymous

    he may not 'beget', but he just couldn't resist that human poontang, could he?

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