I read through the Bible from end to end once just to find the places that unambiguously ascribe the attributes of Godhood to Jesus. My handwritten notes covered more than a hundred pages and included a couple dozen places where the Old Testament states something about Jehovah and the New Testament has exactly the same sentence, but the subject is Jesus. This was probably an unnecessary effort, because smarter people than I am have already done it and the results of their work can be found in the doctrinal textbooks of most churches.

You ask a good question, Jacfar. I think that Roger means well, but is answering a different question. "The Son of God" or "a son of God", referring to Jesus appears 33 times. It refers once to Adam in the Christian scriptures. At Matthew 3:17 a voice from heaven declares, "This is my Son...whom I have approved." The expression "God the Son" or any form of the word 'trinity' is completely absent. Matthew 3:17 was the perfect opportunity to reveal "God the Son" if this were the case. We also find "God the Father" fourteen times but, although Jesus often called to his Father, neither he nor any other person in the Bible referred to him as the Father of God. Incidentally, we never find the title Mother of God in Scripture, though we do find "the mother of Jesus".

Roger stated that "God", "Son of God" and "Son of Man can be used interchangeably. Here are some examples of how well this works: Matthew 3:17--This is my God the beloved, whom i have approved. Matthew 4:7--Jesus said, "It is written, "You must not put the Lord your Son of Man to the test". 4:10--It is the Lord your Son of Man you must worship and to him alone render sacred service. 5:8--Happy are the pure in heart since they will see the Son of Man 5:9--Happy are the peaceable, since they will be called Gods 8:20 Foxes have dens...but God has nowhere to lay his head. 11:31--Whoever speaks a word against God it will be forgiven him, but whoever speaks against teh holy spirit, it will not be forgiven him... 16:13, 16--Who are men saying God is? ...You are the Christ, the God of the living God. 16:27--For God is destined to come in the glory of his Father... Mark 8:33--Get behind me, Satan, because you think not the Son of Man's thoughts but those of men. 8:38--God will be ashamed of him when he comes in the glory of his Father Luke 22:69--God will be sitting at the powerful right hand of the Son of Man John 5:26--For just as the Father has lifein himself, so he has granted also God to have life in himself. And he has given him auhority to do judging because God he is. 6:28--This is the work of the Son of Man, that you exercise faith in him whom that One sent forth. 6:52--Unless you eat the flesh of God and eat his blood, you have no life in yourselves 6:69--we have believed and come to know that you are the holy one of the Son of Man 8:27--When you have lifted up God, then you will know that I am he and that I do nothing of my own initiative, but just as the Father taught me 13:41--Now God is glorified and God is glorified in connection with him.32And the Son of Man will himself glorify him. 14:1--Exercise faith in the Son of Man, exercise faith in me also. 14:13--the Father may be glorified in connnection with God. Acts 7:55, 56--he caught sight of the Son of Man's glory and Jesus standing at the Son of Man's right hand...and God standing at the Son of Man's right hand. John 3:16--For the Son of Man loved the world so much that he sent his only-begotten God...For the Son of Man sent forth his God into the world. These are just a few examples, but you get the idea.

The issue is not so much what people call Jesus but what did Jesus want people to call him. His favourite title was “Son of Man”. There are about 88 instances in the Bible where Jesus calls himself that. By repeatedly using the title “Son of Man” he was going out of his way to emphasise his humanity. i say 'he was going out of his way' because he uses the phrase despite having no biological father. Jesus uses the phrase “Son of God” only about six times. However, that is an innocent phrase which meant righteous man (as in, for example Romans 8:14, "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.") The enemies of Jesus attached divine significance to the phrase and asked him bluntly (Luke 22:70) "Art thou then the Son of God?" this was a golden opportunity for Jesus to confrm his divinity but instead of doing so "he said unto them, Ye say that I am." As if to say, "I never claimed that". Nowhere in the Bible does Jesus refer to himself as God or ask others to call him that. In Matthew 19:17, Mark 10-18, and Luke 18:19 you’ll see that he protests even when he is called “good”, he says "Why do you call me good: No one is good but One, that is, God" As for “trinity” there is no indication that Jesus was even aware of this concept. The word doesn’t appear anywhere in the Bible. However, despite all that, the Church has been ingenious, first it denied Jesus the title he emphasized most “Son of Man” and called him “son of God”, the very title that Jesus wanted to distance himself from, then it gave the title capital letters (which didn’t exist in the alphabet of the original languages) to make it “Son of God”, it then attached a literal meaning to the phrase “begotten of God” and applied it to Jesus elevating him to become the “begotten Son of God”, gave the title exclusivity portraying Jesus as literally “the only begotten son of God” and, with a final about turn of Christ’s teaching, got people to regard Jesus as God Himself.

It doesn't. Paul says it I think, but Jesus himself never does.

John 1:1,14. We know Jesus was the word of God and in verse 14 we see that the word became flesh and we know that to be Jesus, then in John 3:16,17 Jesus was speaking to Nicodemus, explaining, "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. "For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him."

NS, Not meaning to be argumentative but YOU shortened the text. You didn't mention Jesus being called the Messiah in Matt 16:16. I am not arguing, I am simply stating my point. Why get upset? Surely I am entitled to my say just as you are yours. It is not difficult to defend what you believe. I do not find this difficult. The evidence in the bibleS just does not match up to the Holy Qu'ran. That's what is called "freedom of speech", not arguing. You and Coexist both tried hard but, alas, failed miserably. ALLAHU AKBAR

John 3:13 No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man. THE SON OF MAN! NOT GOD

I did not assume incorrectly, you said Jesus was God's first creation. Wrong. by the way, you did not say "very" first creation. Go back and look at your comment. You are assuming I think I know the bible better than you. Where have I said this?

The doctrine of the Holy Trinity states there is one true God who is made up of three separate but equal persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The Bible does not contain the word Trinity. However, the Holy Trinity is hinted at repeatedly in both the Old and New Testaments. For many biblical references, see: http://www.cwo.com/~pentrack/catholic/Trinity.txt Under the influence of the Holy Spirit, the early Christians prayed and struggled over these hints for a couple of centuries. The concept of the Holy Trinity (three equal persons in one God) was mainstream Christianity in 325 C.E. at the Council of Nicaea and our belief is expressed in the Nicene Creed. How this works is not fully known and is one the Christian mysteries. The doctrine of the Holy Trinity is shared by most Christian denominations including Roman and Orthodox Catholics, Lutherans, Anglicans, Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, Pentecostals, Episcopalians, and the Salvation Army. There is a story told about St Augustine: Augustine was walking along the seashore trying to figure out the mystery of the Holy Trinity and came up to a little boy. The boy was trying to pour the ocean into a hole in the sand with a seashell. Augustine told the boy what he was doing was impossible. Then the little boy told Augustine that it is also impossible for the mind of man to try to understand the mystery of the Holy Trinity. The little boy turned into an angel and disappeared. For more information, see Catechism of the Catholic Church, sections 232 and following: http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt1sect2chpt1art1p2.shtml#232 The major non-Trinitarian churches are Christadelphianism, Christian Science, Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Arian Catholicism, Unitarianism, Nontrinitarianism, and Oneness Pentecostals. With love in Christ.

The Gospel of Matthew is one of many places where we see Jesus portrayed as the Son of God. For example, in Matthew 16:16-17, we read: "And Simon Peter answered and said, 'Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.' And Jesus answered and said to him, 'Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.'" When Jesus was interrogated by the high priest in Matthew 26:63-64, we read: "And the high priest said to Him, 'I adjure You by the living God, that You tell us whether You are the Christ, the Son of God.' Jesus said to him, 'You have said it yourself; nevertheless I tell you, hereafter you shall see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven.'" There we see Jesus not only indicating that the title mentioned by the high priest (Son of God) was accurate, but also referring to Daniel 7:13-14, which says: "I kept looking in the night visions, And behold, with the clouds of heaven One like a Son of Man was coming, And He came up to the Ancient of Days And was presented before Him. And to Him was given dominion, Glory and a kingdom, That all the peoples, nations, and men of every language Might serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion Which will not pass away; And His kingdom is one Which will not be destroyed." Note that by alluding to this verse and calling Himself the Son of Man, Jesus was claiming eternal dominion over all mankind. His use of the title Son of Man was not a denial of divinity, but rather a claim of ultimate authority. The response of the high priest upon hearing this was to accuse Jesus of blasphemy (Matthew 26:65) because he understood that Jesus was in fact claiming to be the Son of God (Matthew 27:43). If you are a spiritual seeker rather than simply an argument-seeker, this will give you a good starting point for exploring the question.