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The Bible mentions the circle of the earth, so I would say the round earth reality.
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1) The Bible is more consistent with flat earth theory. The reason is that the people who wrote the Bible had this conception of the world, which was also the mainstream view of many other neighbouring cultures (Mesopotamia, Egypt). The mainstream view of Greece and Rome as the time where Christianity appeared was the round earth theory. Some early Christian theologians tried without much success to bring back the flat earth model, on the base of the Bible. 2) Nowadays, the overwhelminging view is the round earth theory. However, some religious fundamentalists still consider that everything that the Bible says is true and that it can be taken as a basis for "scientific" knowledge. Well knowing that the flat earth theory is not defendable, those people try then to prove that the Bible never accurately and without doubt said that the earth was flat. 3) "The idea of a flat Earth is that the surface of the Earth is flat (a plane), rather than the view that it is a very close approximation of the surface of a sphere. This was a common belief until the Classical Greeks began to discuss its shape about the 4th century BC. Regardless of the Earth's actual shape, local regions of the Earth's surface can be considered approximately flat for many purposes. The large-scale shape of the Earth is only relevant when considering large distances. Consequently, in antiquity only sailors, astronomers, philosophers, and theologians would have been concerned about the Earth's large-scale shape. The modern belief that especially medieval Christianity believed in a flat earth has been referred to as The Myth of the Flat Earth. In 1945, it was listed by the Historical Association (of Britain) as the second of 20 in a pamphlet on common errors in history. Several scholars have argued that "with extraordinary few exceptions no educated person in the history of Western Civilization from the third century B.C. onward believed that the earth was flat" and that the prevailing view was of a spherical earth. However, during the early Middle Ages, theologians such as Saint John Chrysostom, Cosmas Indicopleustes, and Saint Boniface did indeed express firm belief in a flat earth on scriptural grounds. The 12th Century text Dragmaticon by William of Conches, contains a fictional debate between a duke and philosopher over the shape of the earth, suggesting that at least some of the nobility still retained a belief in a flat earth by then. Jeffrey Russell states that the modern view that people of the Middle Ages believed that the Earth was flat is said to have entered the popular imagination in the 19th century, thanks largely to the publication of Washington Irving's fantasy The Life and Voyages of Christopher Columbus in 1828. Although these writers reject the idea of a flat earth, others such as the Flat Earth Society accept or promote the hypothesis." "Antiquity Belief in a flat Earth is found in mankind's oldest writings. In early Mesopotamian thought, the world was portrayed as a flat disk floating in the ocean, and this forms the premise for early Greek maps such as those of Anaximander and Hecataeus of Miletus. Some theologians and biblical researchers maintain that writers of the Bible had a Babylonian world view, according to which Earth is flat and stands on pillars. The firmament was the heaven in which God set the sun (Psalm 19:5) and the stars (Gen 1:14)." Source and further information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_earth Further information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth_mythology 4) Fundamentalist views: the Bible says nowhere that the Earth is flat, it even could say that it is round: - "Did Bible writers believe the earth was flat? No, this false idea is not taught in Scripture!" http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-c015.html - "Seely appears to be assuming that ‘scientific knowledge’, i.e. the conclusions of modern science, is the only source of true knowledge. And, amazingly for an author in a Reformed theological journal, Seely seems to be forgetting that Scripture is propositional revelation from God and therefore is also a source of true knowledge — in fact, it is the ultimate and final source of such knowledge!" http://www.trueorigin.org/flatearth01.asp - "It must be admitted outright that SOME of the items listed here COULD be interpreted as giving a false cosmology - but it is also possible to interpret them other ways. The Bible lacks specifics in this regard (i.e., precise distances and descriptions - as were often offered up by the pagans), and so leaves the answer, "Does the Bible teach bad cosmology?", quite ambiguous in a few places. But for the majority of the cites we have seen, there is no such ambiguity, merely misinterpretation by skeptics and/or poetry. We are justified in our assertion that there is no proof that the Bible teaches a false cosmology." http://www.tektonics.org/af/earthshape.html 5) Some Moslem theologians affirm that the Bible supports the flat earth theory and use this to prove the Bible wrong and the Qu'ran right: "The Bible not only failed to claim that the Earth was egg-shaped, but it also claimed in numerous verses as shown above that the Earth is flat, has Edges, has Four Corners, has Pillars, and has Foundations. As I said above, no unbiased person would deny the obvious and embarrassing quotes above. Only the desperate biased Jews and Christians would. " http://www.answering-christianity.com/earth_flat.htm (further on, according to this view, "The Earth is round according to Islam." and "Allah Almighty said that the earth is "egg-shaped".") 5) According to the Bible, the Earth is flat: - "From their geographical and historical context, one would expect the ancient Hebrews to have a flat-earth cosmology. Indeed, from the very beginning, ultra-orthodox Christians have been flat-earthers, arguing that to believe otherwise is to deny the literal truth of the Bible. The flat-earth implications of the Bible were rediscovered and popularized by English-speaking Christians in the mid-19th century. Liberal scriptural scholars later derived the same view. Thus, students with remarkably disparate points of view independently concluded that the ancient Hebrews had a flat-earth cosmology, often deriving this view from scripture alone. Their conclusions were dramatically confirmed by the rediscovery of 1 Enoch." http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/febible.htm http://www.positiveatheism.org/writ/flatearth.htm - "The Bible contains a variety of verses which show that the writers thought the earth was flat" http://sol.sci.uop.edu/~jfalward/Flat_Earth.htm - "All Christian sects recognize the Bible as the primary source of revelation. This compiled material was allegedly inspired by God and written by chosen authors to reveal him and his will to man. The Bible, then, is the foundation of the Christian religion. To Christian fundamentalists who believe in verbal inspiration, the Bible is an infallible foundation. They claim that "the Holy Spirit so dominated and guided the minds and pens of those who wrote (the Bible) as to make their writings free from mistakes of any and all kinds, whether it be mistakes of history or chronology or botany or biology or astronomy, or mistakes as to moral and spiritual truth pertaining to God or man, in time or eternity," (Wilbur F. Tillett, "The Divine Elements in the Bible," The Abingdon Bible Commentary). Despite the obvious sincerity of those who so view the Bible, the inerrancy doctrine has no basis in fact. That the Bible contains mistakes in every area mentioned by Mr. Till is a truth widely recognized by reputable Bible scholars. One of the most consistent scientific errors that Bible writers made concerned their misconception of the earth's shape." http://www.theskepticalreview.com/tsrmag/1flat90.html - "The Bible’s flat earth/solid sky dome universe" http://www.goatstar.org/the-bibles-flat-earthsolid-sky-dome-universe/ 6) The Bible reflects the cosmological views of its writers. Any religious text of that kind cannot be taken as a basis for scientific knowledge. This applies also to the Qu'ran. A religion which does not accept those facts is fundamentalistic and anti scientific.
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1)Isaiah 40:22 says: 22 He sits enthroned above the ***circle*** of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in. *Circle=Hebrew "chuwg",meaning "sphere" therefore, this indicates that the earth is round. 2)Job 26:7 says 7 He spreads out the northern skies over empty space; he suspends the earth over nothing. therefore, this indicates that the earth hangs in space. ============== No matter what medieval men thought, no matter what 16th century puritans said, the Bible does indicate a knowledge that the earth was a round sphere, suspended in space. Of course, there could be other interpretations of the Isaiah 40 verse eg "This passage may reasonably be interpreted as referring to a flat circular earth with the heavens forming a dome above it. Such an interpretation is consistent with other passages of the Bible which refer to a solid firmament (Gen. 1:6-20, 7:11; Ezekiel 1:22-26; Job 9:8, 22:14, etc.). It is also consistent with the cosmology common in neighboring cultures." http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH131.html but even this site concludes that the shape of the earth could have been known by Old Testament times. "The shape of the earth may already have been known in Isaiah's time. Ancient astronomers could determine that the earth was round by observing its circular shadow move across the moon during lunar eclipses. There is some suggestion that the Egyptians knew of the earth's spherical size and shape around 2550 B.C.E. (more than a thousand years before Moses). The Greek philosopher Pythagoras, who was born in 532 B.C.E., defended the spherical theory on the basis of observations he had made of the shape of the sun and moon (Uotila 1984)." Some people claim that the bible's use of phrases such as "four corners of the earth" (Revelation 7:1) indicates that people in First century Israel (actually John was writing from Patmos off Greece) thought that the earth had four corners. That is as logical as saying that by Paul saying that dead people have "fallen asleep" (1 Corinthians 15), he doesn't believe they actually died. It is the same as us saying that people "kicked the bucket". Do we actually believe they kick the bucket or is it a literary metaphor, commonly used in everyday speech. Whatever the ancients believed about the shape of the earth, one thing needs to be said. The earth's shape was not one of the primary things that the Bible was discussing. It is the SHAPE humanity is in that it deals with.
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As examples of belief systems that ignore all the evidence I'd say they both go hand in hand.
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flat. it speaks of circles and uses distinctly different words for spheres or balls. it says the earth is a circle and not a ball or sphere.
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I believe that the Bible assumes that the Earth is flat. There are several dozen passages that suggest this. Fundamentalists often claim that the following to passages imply a spherical Earth 1)Isaiah 40:22 and 2)Job 26:7 Isaiah describes the Earth as a circle and not a sphere. Job describes a solid dome like sky being stretched over the empty place below the dome. The reference to the Earth hanging upon nothing does not refer to empty space.In other places, Job refers to Pillars or Foundations of the Earth that hold it up. The word translated as "nothing" refers to the formless chaos of the Great Deep or Cosmic Ocean that the Earth was imagined to sit in. Jesus thought that the Earth was Flat.After all, he goes up a mountain with Satan in order to see the all tha kingdoms of the Earth.On a spherical Earth, you cannot see the whole of the Earths surface from a single point, nomatter how high. The idea of a spherical Earth was first proposed by Pythagoras about 550 BC anf widly accepted by educated Greeks and Romans from the time of Aristotle (c350BC) Generally, the Church Fathers believed that the Earth was Flat. The spherical Earth concept was rejected as an unbiblical pagan idea.However,after Christianity became tolerated in the AD300's scholars such as St Augustine successfully persuaded the Church to accept a spherical Earth, by using allegorical or poetic interpretations. By AD 500 nearly all Christian scholars accepted that the Earth was a sphere and the idea was endorsed bythe Roman Catholic Church.However, the Spherical Earth was believed to be fixed at the centre of the Universe in accordance with the ideas of Aristotle and Ptolemy. You may wish to have a look at the following book: The Biblical Cosmos vs Modern Cosmology Author David Presutta Publisher: Liumina Press
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The Flat earth society is entirely a Christian organization which uses the Bible to prove the Earth is flat just the way the Churchmen did right up until Darwin and Wallace gave them something else to worry about. The Association for Biblical astronomy believes in a round immovable Earth and "prove" this with may passages from their "science" source the Bible. It is intellectually dishonest for Christians to claim the Bible doesn't say the Earth is flat and immovable and sits on a foundation with pillars and as the sun hurries across the sky (unless someone stops it!) as it and the rest of the planets stars and moon orbit the Earth. At least the talking animal boogy book got one of those right.
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Very nice question +2 Actually, I'm Muslim and i don't know alot about the bible..... In Qur'an...there is not any verse said about the round earth or flat earth directly. I think that because maybe people at that time would not belive the round earth!!! and even maybe it's not in the bible for this reason(in my opinion) Although, Qur'an has many verses which consistent with round earth. the the next verse..the word (wraps) in the original arabic word (it's a verb derive from the noun sphere which mean to meak sphere)..i think the verb (orb) or (round) or (congregate!) may be fit!. but god doesn't said that earth is sphare dirctly...and this verse cleary shows that all earth, moon, Sun are running in space 39:5 ((..He wraps the night over the day and wraps the day over the night and has subjected the sun and the moon, each running [its course] for a specified term..)) The most butiful verse talk about the round earth theory is: 7:54 ((...He covers the night with the day, [another night] chasing it rapidly...)) the word ((chaseing)) imagine that how the night cover the day and another night chase it .... this can't happen except if the earth is sphere very nice expression, isn't it? :) ------------------------ regard!
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The round earth theory??? lol i dont think that is a theory...
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Round earth. Some Bible critics have claimed that Revelation 7:1 assumes a flat earth since the verse refers to angels standing at the “four corners” of the earth. Actually, the reference is to the cardinal directions: north, south, east, and west. Similar terminology is often used today when we speak of the sun's rising and setting, even though the earth, not the sun, is doing the moving. Bible writers used the “language of appearance,” just as people always have. Without it, the intended message would be awkward at best and probably not understood clearly. In the Old Testament, Job 26:7 explains that the earth is suspended in space, the obvious comparison being with the spherical sun and moon. A literal translation of Job 26:10 is "He described a circle upon the face of the waters, until the day and night come to an end." A spherical earth is also described in Isaiah 40:21-22 - "the circle of the earth." Proverbs 8:27 also suggests a round earth by use of the word circle (e.g., New King James Bible and New American Standard Bible). If you are overlooking the ocean, the horizon appears as a circle. This circle on the horizon is described in Job 26:10. The circle on the face of the waters is one of the proofs that the Greeks used for a spherical earth. Yet here it is recorded in Job, ages before the Greeks discovered it. Job 26:10 indicates that where light terminates, darkness begins. This suggests day and night on a spherical globe. The Hebrew record is the oldest, because Job is one of the oldest books in the Bible. Historians generally [wrongly] credit the Greeks with being the first to suggest a spherical earth. In the sixth century B.C., Pythagoras suggested a spherical earth. The Greeks also drew meridians and parallels. They identified such areas as the poles, equator, and tropics. This spherical earth concept did not prevail; the Romans drew the earth as a flat disk with oceans around it. The implication of a round earth is seen in the book of Luke, where Jesus described his return, Luke 17:31. Jesus said, “In that day,” then in verse 34, “In that night.” This is an allusion to light on one side of the globe and darkness on the other simultaneously. When the Bible touches on scientific subjects, it is entirely accurate. Much to the dismay of most Bible critics.
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I'm Christian and I subscribe to the hollow earth theory.
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It's more consistent with theology, history and human behavior. If you look for science in the Bible, you're not a lot more reasonable than a person who looks for theology in a science book.
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The Bible considers the earth to be flat - right up to the New Testament, in which Jesus is taken to the top of a mountain so high that he could see the entire earth from it. That's only possible if they thought of the earth as a flat surface.
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Clearly round. Various translations of the Bible describe the earth as a "circle", "round ball", and "globe."
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