Ethnic cleansing and mass murder on a scale not seen since Hitler, Stalin, and Mao Tse Tung; control of the region by Iran and its conversion into a terror-exporting state; tremendous ramping up of terror attacks on Americans everywhere because the terrorists will be seen as triumphant and we will be seen as weak; abandonment by our allies since we will be seen as too weak to keep our promises; and that without Iraq to fight in, Islamic totalitarians will turn their weapons on our homeland.

Total chaos. I think this is a war/occupation without end.

Nothing good is going to happen. The whole thing is a huge mistake (blunder) from the start. Bring our trooops home. My 2 cents.

I've got no idea what they are doing there in the first place.

Judge for yourself, In 1979 the United States was spending $5 million a year for covert operations in helping Afghanistan (be patient, we'll get there)fight Russian troops. By the time the Russians left Afghanistan in 1989 the US was spending $2 billion in covert aid for weapons and equipment from Israel, via Pakistan to the Mujahideen, Afghan rebels. When the Russians left the aid stopped. The US wouldn't provide $1 million for a school. The Afghans needed help and they found it in Alqueda and the Taliban. Then twelve or so years later who is the US fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq? There is no void or any kind, ever. If we leave now the Iraqis and Afghans will let who ever steps in first to fill the void. I think that the Afghans and the Iraqis should fill their own void. Should we wait and see who steps in first? In 1979 the Russians wanted the Straight of Houmuz for the oil and went for it through the point of least resistance, Afgahanistan. Now the Russians have an alliance of sorts with Iran(Straight of Houmuz)and now they've invaded Georgia, ostensably for control of Ossetia. But the pipeline (more oil)runs through Georgia. I believe that there is more here than meets the eye. It involves oil and the US saw this situation festering several years ago. I believe we need to stay. Please do not for a minute think that I like the idea of all of this; I went to a war once and I don't want my sons to go to one. This whole thing about the oil is nothing new either. In the 1930's Japan expanded it's empire into China and the western Pacific for oil and rubber. It had bought all of the steel it could from the US.