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  • The answer is in John 1. Jesus has existed with God and been God since the beginning. John 1: 1-3 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. The "firstborn of all creations" comes from Colossians 1:15-17. This does not imply Jesus was a created being, it instead shows that Jesus is the creator, and is above all creation. Colossians 1:15-17 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. A similar idea is in Romans 8:28-30 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose. For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.
  • Perhaps you’d like to rephrase your question, because the Bible actually announces three firstborns. Maybe someone can explain to us how three came to be firsborns. The first two are announced by God. One in Exodus 4:22 “Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:” and the other, being David, in Psalm 89:27 “Also I will make him my firstborn, higher than the kings of the earth.“ Paul announces Jesus as the third one thus in Colossians 1: 15 “Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature”
  • There are many billions of people who believe in One God Three Forms for the main oldest deity. Christianity gets more specific with One God and Three Persons. Jesus & The Father have always existed as the Spirit of God. The Spirit of God has also the person of the Holy Spirit. Jesus the Man is God put into human form with the Spirit of God in that man.You are also are a Spirit encased in Flesh and you will continue to exist even after the biological death of your body.You are different than Gods Spirit in that you were created at one point. Gods Spirit has no beginning and no end. Hope that helps
  • The word "firstborn" could imply that Jesus had the first rites over all creation, not that He was created. Some believe that the Bible is talking about the ressurection of Christ in this verse since He is also called "the first-begotten of the dead", but then again, maybe it isn't talkng about that here because that interpretation could imply that Christ was created (saying that He was the first of all creation to rise from the dead on His own power.) when He was not created. The Bible is clear that Jesus Christ is God Alimighty. (please see John Ch.1, and Isaiah 9:6) I hope that this is helpful. -In the service of the Master. Thank you and God bless you!
  • When referring to 'Jesus', the Bible is clear when stating he is the first living creation from God. Proverbs 8 is speaking of Jesus' pre-existence, and refers to him at vs 22,23 as being 'created'. Biblegateway Bibles, 'Contemp. Eng'; ESV; NIRV; NLV. Col. 1:15 refers to Jesus as the 'firstborn' of all creation! Rev 3:14, Jesus refers to himself as "the beginning of the creation by God"! Although he is not God Almighty...he is a 'mighty' god, who became human to restore what Adam lost!
  • Neither--both are 100% God, along with the Holy Spirit, and have all have existed for all times--
  • The early Church adamantly defended the doctrine of the Trinity, by emphasizing the Godship and eternal nature of Jesus Christ. These defenders included a disciple of St. John the Apostle, St. Ignatius of Antioch. "Jesus Christ . . . was with the Father before the beginning of time, and in the end was revealed" (Letter to the Magnesians 6 [A.D. 110]). "[T]o the Church at Ephesus in Asia . . . chosen through true suffering by the will of the Father in Jesus Christ our God" (Letter to the Ephesians 1 [A.D. 110]). "For our God, Jesus Christ, was conceived by Mary in accord with God’s plan: of the seed of David, it is true, but also of the Holy Spirit" (ibid., 18:2). St. Justin the Martyr, and early convert and disciple of those who discipled the Apostles also defended these principles stridently. "We will prove that we worship him reasonably; for we have learned that he is the Son of the true God himself, that he holds a second place, and the Spirit of prophecy a third. For this they accuse us of madness, saying that we attribute to a crucified man a place second to the unchangeable and eternal God, the Creator of all things; but they are ignorant of the mystery which lies therein" (First Apology 13:5–6 [A.D. 151]). "Jesus Christ is the only proper Son who has been begotten by God, being his Word and first-begotten, and power; and, becoming man according to his will, he taught us these things for the conversion and restoration of the human race" (First Apology 23 [A.D. 151]). "God begot before all creatures a beginning, who was a certain rational power from himself and whom the Holy Spirit calls . . . sometimes the Son . . . sometimes Lord and Word. . . . We see things happen similarly among ourselves, for whenever we utter some word, we beget a word, yet not by any cutting off, which would diminish the word in us when we utter it. We see a similar occurrence when one fire enkindles another. It is not diminished through the enkindling of the other, but remains as it was" (Dialogue with Trypho the Jew 61 [A.D. 155]). Theophilus of Antioch another bishop of the early Church had this to say: "It is the attribute of God, of the most high and almighty and of the living God, not only to be everywhere, but also to see and hear all; for he can in no way be contained in a place. . . . The three days before the luminaries were created are types of the Trinity: God, his Word, and his Wisdom" (To Autolycus 2:15 [A.D. 181]). These are all (with the exception of Fulgence) written well before the New Testament Canon was decided upon. The final decision on what would be Scripture came out of this Trinitarian climate. Notice also that the quotes are not localized, but are spread throughout the Christian world. There was a unanimity of belief that came from the Apostles that wouldn't be challenged until the Arian Heresy of the 4th century forced the Church to define a teaching that was as old as the Church itself.
  • Well you are not too far off from how salvation has been understood throughout history. Jesus Christ fulfilled the old law and ushered in the new and everlasting covenant. The basis of this covenant is being a member of the family of God. When Christ calls us to be one with Him as He is one with the Father, He was interpreted by the early Church fathers as talking about being an adopted child into God's family. We could never make the statement, as Christ did that "before Abraham was, I AM," but we can claim to be children of God. In the first several centuries after Christ this idea was key to correctly interpreting Scriptures and this remains true today.
  • Consider: Jesus is the Only Begotten Son of the Father. So He was 'created' by the Father before our spacetime envelope was created. Mary had nothing to do with it. She only provided a physical body for Him, millennia later. What is 'begotten' in this context? We cannot know. Since God has no physical body, I would guess that some sort of spiritual fission was involved.
  • Apparently, they were all from West Virginia. The father was the son, the son was the father, the father and the son were their own uncles and cousins and brothers and so on and so forth. Them two made up an entire family
  • This is my belief . . . "In the beginning . . .God created the heavens and the earth." So the first person we hear about is God. His son is part of him which he unselfishly gave to erase our sins (how could we ask anything more of him?). The Holy Spirit is the spirit of the combination of them both. That is my belief . . . I'm entitled to it as it's as much my right to interpret as anyone elses. Thanks for the opportunity to express.
  • Read John. Jesus was not only there at creation, but God created everything through Jesus and for Jesus.
  • Jesus is God. The God of the old testament was Jesus, the rock who begat us. (Deuteronomy 32)(1 Corinthians 10:4)Jesus is the author of life. (Acts 3:15)God planned from the beginning to become a man and die for us. (Isaiah 63) The word translated as the word in John 1 can also be translated as the message, or the idea, or the plan. A translation that would be more accurate, since there is only one God, would be 'In the beginning was the message and the message was about God and God was the message.' When God became a man he was also a spirit in heaven. (John 3) It was Jesus the spirit who resurrected the human body of Jesus that had been provided to enable Jesus, the man who was actually God in human form (Matthew 1:23), to die to pay for our sins. (John 2)(Hebrews 10)(Isaiah 53) Jesus was the first human to be born from the dead. (1 Corinthians 15.) Best wishes, Eddie Cairns.
  • Immanuel means that God is with us, this is the name given for Jesus when he came to earth. God created man in his own image, so we people have 3 dimesions united together to become a normal active human being which are Body, soul and spirit. you can't seperate these things. These three things are equally important to make a human being. Just like that to be a God , God has to exist in three forms Father, Son (was called 'word') and Holy spirt. They are one and they exist forever and ever. They are beyond time and space.

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