You are doing the same. People divide everyone and everything into groups. You ask this question, and, while trying to make it look objective, word it in such a way as to be insulting to whatever group you are speaking of. Are you racist for doing that? As far as racist, if the ENTIRE group you speak of, does this, then yes, I would say so. But if it is just a guideline, that has been there for years, and there is not a sharp line dividing 'them' from 'us', then no. You are talking about people, not a massive, nebulous group of things that are homogeneous. The fact that you group the entire ethnicity, whatever one you are thinking of, into one solid whole, solidly makes you a racist. They may think it is 'us' and 'them' according to you, you flat out state it. There is no one ethnicity that excludes any other from it, in it's entirety. If you think there is, kindly state which one it is. For any ethnicity to do that, you would have to find one that has not had any racial integration whatsoever. I think you asked this simply to either stir shit or target one or more people you know that are of whatever ethnicity you are thinking of. Stop judging and grow up.

I think the concept you are reaching for is "culture" because not all of any ethnicity follow the same culture. IF you are stating that, you are showing extreme bias. Before you can judge a culture, you have to look at its history and why this has developed in the specific culture. Maybe the members of that culture have been persecuted for a long time and have become xenophobic to survive. Maybe that culture had its roots being part of a caste system. Also, what is their word that you are translating into "filthy"? Are you sure that is the concept? It is unfair to judge a culture based on YOUR culture's expectations.

No, but those who dislike racism but brag about being a bigot are.

So, if a group (culture/ethnicity/brotherhood/clan) has been oppressed (or inconvenienced, or enslaved, or talked bad about, or has some such history), then they have the implicit right to show racist behavior toward others (in a manner that is sometimes described in the softer, less offensive term of xenophobia, but the manifestation is racism -- teaching your kids that their cultural identity includes the right to treat people unfavorably because they are not of your race). I don't think this is right, but this is what is being said. I used the example of whites enslaving & culling blacks because it's a less contentious than referring to the much older (and still prevalent) tradition of blacks enslaving blacks. The key is the notion that "we" are humans and "they" (or "everybody else") are not, not whether whites are more often than not the "we." Is it not possible to look back in history and discover that maybe the xenophobia-fueled racism (or racism-fueled xenophobia, or whatever) triggered (at least in part) the oppression? I'm not stating that this has been done in any particular case (or even that this is somehow a moral justification for the oppression); I just wonder if it's plausible enough a scenario to put forth as a possible chain of events. Can we not talk about researching possible support for such a scenario? Or would that be racist? And the logical follow-on question is, if you did find sufficient evidence that this is the case, would you feel any different about that group? It's just a question. No need to get excited. Can members of two groups (one big and rich, one smaller and poor) not oppress each other, in different ways, and all members be considered as acting like a racist? Or is the smaller, poorer group always given the benefit of the doubt, and allowed to downgrade their behavior to "cultural xenophobia"? It's a touchy subject. Questions like mine will tend to get people excited who have already made up their minds who is a racist and who is the victim of racism. A truly open mind looks at arguments on their merit and on their logical connections. But if asking this question makes me a racist (or bigot), then I don't wonder why race relations are such a problem. Talking about race is like talking about religion: so many people have already made up their mind that it's next to impossible to have truly constructive debate. "You don't understand, because you don't believe in God." "You don't understand, because you're white and [relatively] rich." The ethnicity in question (and there are a lot that have these tendencies, per my personal experience, and through open-minded query with members of many groups that I consider racist) is not the issue. Would I suddenly have permission to ask this question if I had lived with an oppressed (but racist) group for years? It's just a question. The issue is the boundaries of the discussion (and definition of terms), without which no progress can be made. I don't think that racism should be defined in terms of "white people who. . ." I made that up. (I thought that was obvious.) But the way racism is commonly brought up in popular debate, this seems to be the implied definition. Wikipedia has a definition that, to me, is more an issue for genetic scientists than for anybody debating public policy and cultural dynamics. And it doesn't seem to support the way the term is often used. So I'm searching for aspects of a definition that are actually useful, even if the discussion occasionally puts the oppressed in an unflattering light. But anyway, you answered the question: "As far as racist, if the ENTIRE group you speak of, does this, then yes, I would say so." The question is not of random acts of racism (like individual rednecks who sometimes show racist behavior, and sometimes don't), but of respected cultural institutions (like the NFL, or the Actors' Guild, or the government) putting their seal of approval on certain behavior. (E.g., many branches of the Christian faith tell their members that gays are not "normal." They state explicitly that God doesn't like fags, and thereby sets the norm for their culture. Even if less than 100% of Catholics actively gay-bash, all devoted members of that group live in a world that supports gay-bashing behavior.) So you said "yes." Thanks.

****Deleted as my agreement with the wording of the original question has been miscontrued as agreement with the further racist comments of the asker****

You, Daryl, disgust me. That is all I have to say.

Edited until further notice.