• John 10:33,The Jews answered Him,saying for a good work we stone the not,but for balsphemy,and as a man makest thyself GOD.John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word(Jesus)and the word was with God and the word was GOD,and verse 14,the word was made flesh.1John 5:7 there are three that bear record in heaven,the Father the Word and the Holy Spirit,and these three are one.Also why did Thomas say to Jesus,my Lord and my GOD?Why if Jesus isn't God,did He not correct Thomas?Cause He is God in the flesh.God came as a man to die for the sins of His elect.
  • So your back for more out of context scripture, huh? Okay have at it... First, in the two verses before this, it says: "These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, 'Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: As thou hast given Him power over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given Him.'" Jesus, the Son of God, is not a messenger, but rather on the same level as God, but He is God's Son for only God the Son can grant eternal life, which He clearly states that God the Father gave Him that power. Next, the problem with reading non-KJV scripture is that words are misinterpreted. Here's what the KJV says for the same verse: "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." Jesus, speaking to God, puts Himself on the same level as God, saying that God sent Him so that people could get to know Him AND God, not just God alone. If you read back 7 chapters to John 10:27-30, it says: "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any [man] pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave [them] me, is greater than all; and no [man] is able to pluck [them] out of my Father's hand. I and [my] Father are one." Clearly, Jesus stating that He can give them eternal life and that He and the Father are one and the same cannot be interpreted to mean that Jesus is just a messenger. Only Jesus can grant eternal life by accepting what He did for us, by believing who He is, and that everyone, including yourself, falls short of God the Father's measurment to get into heaven, which is perfection. Any sin, even the smallest amount, will keep you out of heaven; that is God's rule. The only way to get around that rule is to have a blood sacrifice...someone has to die to pay the price. Since if we die in our sin, we won't get into heaven, there is nothing that will...unless someone like Jesus really was who He said He was, both God and man, and died like a man, but rose again from that death to destroy the price that has to be paid. In exchange for that, you have to accept who He really is, believe what He really did, and know that He is God. Anything else is just wasting your time.
  • Christian please don't get into discussion with this man.Cause by doing so,your doing what John said not to do in 2 John 1:10.I wish I could take it all back.God Bless.
  • Dont you just love that God just fills in all the blanks for stuff you do not know. Do you think the two words could be different? If only you could be specific you would find definition and clarity instead of gross ignorance.
  • The false teaching of the Trinity has been proven to be wrong and unscriptural so many times, that I am embarrassed for those that believe in it. Jesus was gods only son, and NOT equal to god. "It is true that his opponents accused Jesus of making himself equal to God by calling God his own Father, but in so doing they misrepresented the facts, as do those who teach the doctrine of the trinity today. Jesus answered their falsehood by saying: “Most truly I say to you, The Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative.” No, he was not equal to God, and he further emphasized that point by saying: “The Father is greater than I am.” (John 5:18, 19; 14:28) His own disciples properly understood the matter, and when he asked them, “Who do you say I am?” they did not confuse his identity with that of the Father or say that he was a member of a triune Godhead. No; Peter said: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” His Father had sent him to earth to glorify God and to “give his soul a ransom in exchange for many.”—Matt. 16:15-17; 20:28."
  • We have been saying that Jesus is God since the Apostle Thomas said, "My Lord and my God!" (John 20:28) And John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." and John 1:14 "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth." The Nicene Creed (from the year 325) talks about the nature of Jesus Christ: We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, one in being with the Father. Through Him all things were made. For us and our salvation He came down from heaven: by the power of the Holy Spirit, He was born of the Virgin Mary, and became man. For our sake He was crucified under Pontius Pilate; He suffered, died, and was buried. On the third day He rose again in fulfillment of the scriptures: He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end. The Catechism of the Catholic Church explains what we believe in depth: For many Scriptures that refer to Jesus as God and the Trinity, see: With love in Christ.
  • To Theby- This question is yet another verse that this user used to confuse and provoke Christians. The answer to his questions is right before this verse that he posts and misrepresents. In every edition of the Bible this verse ends with, “WHOM THOU HAST SENT” Where does it say he is merely a messenger, it says he was SENT by God. John 17:1 shows that he was not a messenger of man that was sent, but the One True Son of God who was sent. John 17:2 shows that it’s Jesus that was sent to give eternal life to all men who seek it (I have other verses to back this up but in an effort to give you less to read and to stay on topic I’ve only posted these, If you ask I will post them for you). 1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: 2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. The passage continues to show what it is that we Christians believe and what this user so clumsily seeks to misrepresent. These next passages also show Jesus talking to God saying that he and God are one. This is why we believe in the Trinity (and other passages, but I am getting off topic from this question of this user). I’ve posted it this way to give you less to read, (again I will post verses 12 – 15). In John 17:10 Jesus is talking about the word being both His and God’s. John 17:11 Jesus is saying that he is leaving the world and returning to GOD His Father. He says that God gave him his name and the passage ends with, “That they may be one as we are”. John 17:16 I think that one is self explanatory. 10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them. 11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are. 16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. To sum this up Theby, the passage not only shows that God SENT Jesus as his SON, but it also shows more proof that Jesus and God are one. Do you remember the clover analogy? Jesus is one part and God another, the clover has three parts to one leaf. The question posted is incorrect. The passage shows that Jesus IS God. It does not state that Jesus is merely a messenger. This is a misdirecting question posted by one who claims to know the Bible better that Christians. If that were true he would have read John 17:1 and 2 and gotten his answer. They were directly above John 17:3 so it’s not like he would have had to dig to far to find his answer and the Truth. Had he read the Book of John a lot of his questions could have been eliminated completely? Now look at the comments he leaves for Christians who dare to answer this question for him. They are nothing but an attack. This only goes to further prove to you that the user that posted this question is a hateful man. His questions about Christianity are not for knowledge or clarification. They are meant to provoke and mislead. I have now done what I said I would do here . Now I have two questions for you. You still have not answered this question. He made the claim "You are a liar.. I have checked all your other answers , comments from your profile and all of them have one purpose, that is: to SPREAD HATE against Islam and Muslims, and to spread LIES against them." Have you found evidence of what he claims or have I shown you that it is he is a liar that has one purpose which is to spread hate against Christians? If you do not want to take the time to go through everything he lists I understand, but please take the time to go to my profile and these questions that he specifically picked out when he made this claim to Down Rate: Tell me do they fit his claim or if he is just a troll?
  • Even religions that don't know who Jesus is, claim Him to be a prophet. Even they believe that a prophet can not lie. The words below came from Jesus Himself. John 10:30 I and my Father are one. John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? That is why Jesus made the statement below. John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. Jesus, God in the form of a man, must be know for anyone to have eternal life in Heaven. Not my words, but as you stated in your question, those of Jesus. May God continue to bless you and yours because without those blessings, we couldn't take another breath!
  • I don't know anything about Muslims, so I don't know what there thinking is on standing before God on Judgment Day. Please take the test below, and see how you will do. I don't judge anyone, that is for them to decide their fate on Judgment Day. Look at the "mirror" of the Ten Commandments. Ever lied? Stolen? Lusted (adultery of the heart - Matt. 5:27-28) or had sex out of marriage? Guilty or innocent on Judgment Day? Heaven or Hell? ("All liars will have their part in the lake of fire" - Rev. 21:8). Jesus took your punishment on the Cross, proving God’s love. He defeated death. Repent and trust Him - God will forgive you and give you everlasting life. Read the Bible daily, obey it - John 14:21. God will never let you down. I don't try to convience anyone, Jesus just said I was to make sure they knew by me telling them. God bless!
  • Jesus-is-muslim nice going.... muslims are trying to close the gap between religions and you are just making it bigger with this attetude and hatred.... and dont come tell me that well they attacked islam with what they say.... cause you could simply clarify or amend those thoughts rather than attack them back in such a why.....
  • John 17:3 is a metaphor. Jesus was a human being when He called the Father who is a spiritual being the true God. With no doubt the Spirit is greater than the flesh. In the return of Jesus, He will not come as a human being, but in all His glory to smite the world. Romans 14:11 "For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to Me, and every tongue shall confess to God." Philippians 2:10 "That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in Heaven, and things in Earth, and things under the Earth;" Revelation 19:15 "And out of His mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it He should smite the nations: and He shall rule them with a rod of iron: and He treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God."
  • John 10; 30 Jesus clearly states that "I and the Father are one".
  • The New testament makes it abundantly clear that Jesus Christ was the son of almighty God he was created as an avatar to represent the qualities of his father as a man. As best as a man could represent him. In the entire New testament you never see Jesus telling people to worship him. What we do see is that Jesus Christ is the leader the praise and worship manager leading Us in true worship to his father Jehovah. I can truly see why some religions get very offended when people claim that Jesus Christ was almighty God in physical form on the Earth. The Bible makes it abundantly clear that no man can see the face of God and still live. Yet many people saw the face of Jesus Christ and lived so we can see very plainly that Jesus could not possibly have been his father. But Jesus Christ perfectly did his job to represent the qualities of his father while he was on Earth. So we worship almighty God Yahweh Jehovah and we obey Jesus Christ as he leads us in worship to his father.
  • It - rather obviously - does not state what you claim it states. Your quote of the passage proves it. I don't know if you're intentionally lying or if you just have very poor English comprehension...or both.

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