by Lemongrass on January 23rd, 2005

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What kind of monk was Rasputin?

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  • by Andy Is Wicked Married to Penal Colony on January 23rd, 2005

    Andy Is Wicked Married to Penal Colony

    UPDATED:

    Picky! Picky! I answered the question which was simply what kind of monk was Rasputin. NOT why was he called the "Mad Monk"? The answer was 100% correct because as I stated, he was not (not) a monk at all.

    He was not literally a monk. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rasputin

    Rasputin was a Russian mystic with an influence in the later days of Russia's Romanov dynasty. Rasputin was also known as the "Mad Monk", although he was not actually a monk, but a starets, or religious pilgrim.

    ALSO UPDATED:

    World Book (no reason given, "Mad Monk" not even mentioned)
    http://www.aolsvc.worldbook.aol.com/wb/Article?id=ar459990&st=Rasputin


    http://history1900s.about.com/library/weekly/aa020801a.htm

    . . .Rasputin underwent a religious transformation around the age of 18 and spent three months in the Verkhoturye Monastery. . . (perhaps this is where the idea he was a "monk" came from?)


    When he returned to Pokrovskoye he was a changed man. Though he married Proskovia Fyodorovna and had three children with her (two girls and a boy), he began to wander as a strannik ("pilgrim" or "wanderer"). During his wanderings, Rasputin traveled to Greece and Jerusalem. Though he often traveled back to Pokrovskoye, he found himself in Petrograd (St. Petersburg) in 1903. By then he was proclaiming himself a starets, a holy man, who had healing powers and could predict the future.

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  • by iwnit on December 29th, 2008

    iwnit

    He was probably more a "starets" than a regular monk:

    "The elder or "old man", known in Greek as geron and in Russian as starets, need not necessarily be old in years, but he is wise m his experience of divine truth, and blessed with the grace of "fatherhood in the spirit", with the charisma of guiding others on the Way. What he offers to his spiritual children is not primarily moral instruction or a rule of life, but a personal relationship. "A starets," says Dostoevsky, "is one who takes your soul, your will, into his soul and his will." Fr. Zachariah's disciples used to say about him, "It is as though he bore our hearts in his hands."

    The starets is the man of inward peace, at whose side thousands can find salvation. The Holy Spirit has given him as the fruit of his prayer and self-denial, the gift of discernment or discrimination, enabling him to read the secrets of men's hearts; and so he answers, not only the questions that others put to him, but often the questions often much more fundamental - which they have not even thought of asking. Combined with the gift of discernment he possesses the gift of spiritual healing-the power to restore men's souls, and sometimes also their bodies. This spiritual healing he provides not only through his words of counsel but through his silence and his very presence. Important though the advice may be, far more important is his intercessory prayer. He makes his children whole by praying constantly for them, by identifying himself with them, by accepting their joys and sorrows as his own, by taking on his shoulders the burden of their guilt or anxiety. No one can be a starets if he does not pray insistently for others.

    If the starets is a priest, usually his ministry of spiritual direction is closely linked with the sacrament of confession. But a starets in the full sense, as described by Dostoevsky or exemplified by Fr. Zachariah, is more than just a priest confessor. A starets in the full sense of the word cannot be appointed such by any superior authority. What happens is that the Holy Spirit speaking directly to the hearts of the Christian people, makes it plain that this or that person has been blessed by God with the grace to guide and heal others. The true starets is in this sense a prophetic figure, not an institutional official. While most commonly a priest-monk, he may also be a married parish priest, or else a lay monk not ordained to the priesthood, or even-but this is less frequent-a nun, or a lay man or woman living in the outside world. If the starets is not himself a priest, after listening to people's problems and offering counsel, he will frequently send them to a priest for sacramental confession and absolution."
    Source and further information:
    http://www.pigizois.gr/


    2) "The Encyclopedia Britannica reports that at the age of 18, Rasputin went through a religious transition, eventually traveling to the monastery at Verkhoture. Here, he was introduced to the Khlysty sect. After traveling to the monastery and spending some time there, he did not become a monk. Even though he did not stay at the monastery to become a monk, this trip already set him on the path to power and fame."
    Source and further information:
    http://it.stlawu.edu/~rkreuzer/indv5/rasp.htm

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  • by Penal Colony is wicked marrying Andy on December 9th, 2008

    Penal Colony is wicked marrying Andy

    Supposedly a "mad" monk. He wasn't really a monk, though, he was a "mystic" who was kept around the domicile of Tsar Nicholas II in hopes that Rasputin could heal his hemophiliac son. He was also an adviser to the Tsar. He was also unbelievably difficult to assasinate.

    Rasputin was not good for the Royal Family's PR, due to his excessive drinking, corruption, and lechery. He was stabbed in public by a prostitute in 1914, and recovered. A group of nobles later tried to kill him by feeding him poisoned wine and cake. Noticing that he didn't die, one of the nobles shot him in the back. Shortly after that, he regained consciousness and tried to strangle one of the nobles, who shot him three more times. Still not dead though. The nobles attempted to beat him to death, and threw him into a freezing-cold river, which finally finished him off.

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  • by Goldberry on April 22nd, 2008

    Goldberry

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori_Rasputin
    He had super power!!!

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  • by shady on December 29th, 2008

    shady

    a nut

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  • by Indigo- in the library with the revolver on December 29th, 2008

    Indigo- in the library with the revolver

    Eastern Orthodox.

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  • by Mastodon on December 9th, 2008

    Mastodon

    A mad one

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