by technios on November 13th, 2008

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Is being a monk selfish? I mean. .. A vow of silence so a person could obtain knowledge/enlightenment but not share it?

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  • by Moon Unit on November 13th, 2008

    Moon Unit

    No, I don't think so.
    If you would like enlightenment, join the monks. After all, they can guide you there, but the full path to enlightenment is achieved by yourself only, so taking a vow of silence helps one in focusing souly on this purpose, so I do not see it as selfish, merely, the best way.

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  • by dead leaves raked in a pile on November 13th, 2008

    dead leaves raked in a pile

    An unusual question... More often one hears the desire for Christians to shut up and keep their enlightenment to themselves.

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  • by Catholic Convert on June 14th, 2009

    Catholic Convert

    The nun's at the abbey where I worship told me that there isn't actually such a thing as a 'vow of silence' among monastic orders. They do practice silence to a greater or lesser degree depending on the Order but even the Carthusians ~ who live the majority of their lives in silence and follow a strict prayer routine alone in their hermitages within the monastery ~ have brief periods of time when they speak with each other. Vows are most often either Poverty, Chastity and Obedience or Stability, Obedience and Conversion.

    There are silent orders but I don't think this is part of their vows, more a decision to practice their faith that way and even then I expect there are times when conversation is necessary and allowed.

    Silence is the best way to pray, hear God and gain enlightenment. This is often passed on either through texts [lots of monastics/religious have written very good books] or through documentary films, [Into Great Silence is an amazing example] so they are passing on what they learn and giving examples of their way of life for the good of others. So although it may seem selfish at first look it really isn't. Most monastic orders are very giving and generous with their time, knowledge, love and faith. You just have to search it out cos they don't advertise lol.

    The Abbey where I worship offers monastic weekends/retreats where you can go and participate in their Daily Offices and silence for yourself so that too is another way in which they share that knowledge with others. Many Orders offer this to the laity.

    Good question and every blessing

    CC x

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  • by Anon y mouse on November 14th, 2008

    Anon y mouse

    Where'd you get the idea that all monks take a vow of silence? Have you ever met a monk or nun for that matter?

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  • by TjoeBaxter is Hot Yo on November 13th, 2008

    TjoeBaxter is Hot Yo

    The Buddha was considered a monk:)

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  • by HasntBeen on November 13th, 2008

    HasntBeen

    Generally enlightenment isn't shared by talking anyway, so I don't think the accusation really applies.

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  • by Leah on June 14th, 2009

    Leah

    I think most write it down, but very few take that vow today.

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  • by j ninja... on November 14th, 2008

    j ninja...

    That's a good question t. I never though of that before.

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  • by dancer on August 11th, 2009

    dancer

    The vow of silence is so that others do not interrupt the prayer that the monk is Trying to offer every minute of their lives. Monks usually do not mingle in the community. +4

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  • by Lucy in the sky on January 28th, 2011

    Lucy in the sky

    Buddha, is not fazed by being called strange. ummmmmm lol

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