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In my opinion, bow2thelord, you are doing what you would regard as "the devil's work" by your behaviour this evening. You are doing the best job possible to convince people that Christianity is the unthinking persons religion, ready with a mindless knee-jerk, unreasoned, answer to every question. If you wish to convince people, you will have to give reasons for your answers, not produce your photocopier solutions to every problem. As it happens, I know many other, more reasonable, Christians, and I have every respect for their beliefs. But you are doing your best to smirch their faith.
I'm not sure the ins and outs of wiccian if its a religion or a philosophy.
That having been said it is written "No one comes to the father except through me." -Jesus
Without faith in Christ only those who can not be held responsible for themselves can enter the kingdom of heaven.
what makes you think we want to? i have no use for your kind of god.
Ok, I see you're back. As long as you don't go around targeting specific users with this crap, you have as much right as anyone to share and promote your views.
However, for the record -- those views ARE very reprehensible and damaging -- at least the ones I've seen so far. You can count on people like me keeping an eye on you and flagging the admins whenever you decide to turn back to trolling behavior.
Hopefully a few of the Christians here -- and we have a number who are very mature and well balanced -- will be able to speak to you in your own language about why your behavior yesterday was so offensive and inappropriate.
Witches are already in the kingdom of GOD.This entire universe is GOD's kingdom.
I think that this question is a very touchy subject, and rather hard to answer. I suppose it all depends on what you believe.
somebody has to take care of the entertainment
Edit: This question was originally asked under the general religion category, and has since been moved.
This is the general religion section, so I am - again - going to have to ask you to specify the God to which you are referring.
Not all Witches are Wiccan; however, the Wiccan ones have a Deity, and they will be able to enter into whatever arrangements for the afterlife they have with that Deity.
bow2thelord: My point exactly. You are not preaching, you are ranting. You damage that which you purport to love.
Yes it was i don't by any means think you are gaining any souls by your offensive action targeting people and there beliefs it is one thing when someone asks you question. And I do appreciate the fact that you are attempting to share what you think you know but no one here want to hear your selfrighteous babling, you have been told!
My question is would a witch WANT to go to the kingdom of heaven. that is not our place
Sure, if they convert and become Christian by your rules. However those of us who are Wiccan don't want to be Christain so it's a moot point to us. We have our own Gods and Goddesses and our own place we go when we die. To us we all travel diffent paths to that same end so the place we go excepts everybody reguardless of who they call "God" and based soley on what kind of person they were. My fiance who passed was Christian and so is most of my family. I still fully expect to spend Eternity with them when I die. By the way he felt the same way about his God. He never believed that God would send a good person to hell based on what their beliefs were. He believed that all religions were an expression of one faith.
The kingdom of which god?
No and neither can a church member!
Witches do not believe in any christian god, nor his 'kingdom.' Therefore, why does it matter? Our gods and goddesses do not punish, but rather, are accepting of who we are and what we choose to do. We harm none, and look forward to an afterlife according to our beliefs. We do not need nor do we wish to be 'converted' or 'saved.' We do not try to convert others; why is it always so imperative that we be converted? :-/
Sure if "God" wants to allow Dr.Laura who is a witch (but with a "B" instead of a "W") into his kingdom thats alright with me.
If they repent and get washed in the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ and are saved by the grace of God through faith in Jesus Christ.
-In the service of the Master.
Thank you and God bless you!
Which god?
If she has been cleansed through the blood of Christ the Father will accept her into His kingdom.
no. the Bible says rebelliousness is as the sin of witchcraft. so it's saying that witchcraft is a sin.
Wicca is benign. Very few wiccans would want to do harm to others - probably about the same percentage as Christians. I think God is open to Wiccans who are good people - and to Buddhists, animists, atheists, Shintoists, Hindus, and all others who are good people.
but the true translation was do not suffer a poisoner to live.. when they wrote the king james version they were trying to take over the medical feild from midwives and such and were calling them witches ..
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Of course not,doesnt it say in the christian bible "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live"
Why would i want to enter a place that has no exsistnace in my belief?
i think so because everyone that prays and believes in the bible no matter what version it is is a witch to me. because they pray and believe and use their will. why not call everyone a witch?? yes i think witches can get into heaven.
why ? and by the way what god ? god is a job description and title , not a name.
The Bible clearly answers that where Writing to those in Galatia, the apostle Paul included spiritistic occultism among “the works of the flesh,”
warning them about spiritism:
“Now the works of the flesh are manifest, and they are fornication, uncleanness, loose conduct, idolatry, practice of spiritism, enmities, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, contentions, divisions, sects, envies, drunken bouts, revelries, and things like these. As to these things I am forewarning YOU, the same way as I did forewarn YOU, that those who practice such things will not inherit God’s kingdom.” Galatians 5:19-21
Of course not,doesnt it say in the christian bible "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live"
Why would i want to enter a place that has no exsistnace in my belief?
if you are refering to the god of christianity then what makes you think that we would or wouldn't enter the "kingdom of god"? first off wiccan witches don't belive in heaven or hell. second off wiccan witches don't worship the christianity god so we don't believe in going into the "kingdom of god". better luck next time.
The Catholic Church believes that those who die never hearing of Christ but have sought the truth and does the will of God as they understand it can be saved. See Romans 2:13-16.
For more information, see the Catechism of the Catholic Church, sections 1257-1261: http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt2sect2.htm#1257
With love in Christ.
Anyone can enter the kingdom of God. But first they have to accept him and believe in his commandments.
well, being a Christian, when i see the the name God i think of no other god but the one true God. and sin is anything you know to be wrong but do it anyway.
If my maternal grandmother is in the Kingdom of God, the answer has to be yes. I can write a book describing the damage that old witch/bitch created on this world.
A witch doesn't believe their is a KINGDOM of God! A witch believes in Afterlife, not judgement before moving on. We are judged in this life with our own undoings, the law of Karma. So NO! A witch wouldn't care weather or not they entered some Kingdom because they don't believe one exists!
sort of like asking if a christian to enter the summerlands... or Valhalla
Of course an witch may enter My kingdom.
Only if they've got a really good costume and really know how to say "Trick or Treat."
Well, there are those who call themselves Christian Wiccans, so I would ask them.
does any body know a spell i could use to solve this problem?
by Haley_S3227 on June 26th, 2011
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What do wiccans do and believe?
by AnonymousGirl on May 18th, 2011
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I'm a Wicca, and i would like to know if anyone could point me in the direction to a good website. For spell and tools.
by GothTroubleMaker on June 26th, 2011
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should the groom help the bride pick a handfasting dress?
by Haley_S3227 on June 25th, 2011
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I am turning seventeen in a couple of months. I was wondering if there is any special wiccan tradition?
by Katrina_M3834 on May 10th, 2011
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real Christains preach the Word
by bow2thelord on December 14th, 2006
Actually, that's a good point -- maybe bow2thelord is only pretending to be a Christian. He wants Christianity to seem so disgusting that no sane person would go near it. He might be an atheist with a huge disdain for the wisdom and compassion of Jesus, and wants to destroy his legacy by demonstrating extreme bigotry and ignorance. That would make a lot of sense.
by Stableboy on December 14th, 2006
I'll but that. If he really was a Christian, he'd acknowledge that only God has the right to judge and show a little more humility.
by 8 Jan 2004-10 Dec 2009 on December 14th, 2006
I agree with this answer. Not all Christians are like this, or even close. I have many Christian friends who would be appalled by this behavior.
by AntigoneRising on December 14th, 2006
jervinator hit the nail on the head!
by Anonymous on June 3rd, 2007
Wow, it's Retro Night here on AB! A bow2thelord bashing resurfaces for a fresh coat of comments :)
by Stableboy on June 3rd, 2007
bow2thelord: Keep up the good work.
by Abbyguy on June 24th, 2007
I am chagrined. I was wrong. It turns out that my respect for you COULD drop further, Abby.
by AntigoneRising on June 24th, 2007
Once again, it's time for another episode of "As the Bag Turns"! :)
by Stableboy on June 25th, 2007
Oh come on! Do I have to agree with you? NO! In my opinion, real Christains DO preach the word, that is what we are commanded to do. If someone is happy with something you want to share it. You are happy with Wicca and share it in your own unique way, go for it, I disagree with it, but you have a right to do so just as I or bow2thelord ha sthat same right.
by Abbyguy on June 25th, 2007
I don't think that's what Antigone is referring to in this case, nor am I. I'm somewhat more tolerant of Christian proselytizing than she is, but bow2thelord -- if you knew him like we knew him -- wasn't someone you'd want to be associated with I think. He had about a 3rd grade education, a virulent misogynist temper, and possibly a mental disorder or two. Most of the Christians who realized what they were dealing with tried to put a little bit of distance between themselves and he.
In any case, he's been gone for months (having been booted by the admins several times). In his later incarnations, I encountered strong evidence that he probably wasn't even a Christian -- I suspect he was a teen who had too much time on his hands and just wanted to see how much trouble he could stir. It got pretty funny after a while.
by Stableboy on June 25th, 2007
I see not good at all, I was un aware thanks.
by Abbyguy on June 25th, 2007
I see...in that case, I withdraw my comment. It is possible you didn't know, as most of his posts were removed by the admins. They weren't just flagged "offensive"...they were flat-out deleted. I agree with SB, he wasn't a Christian. He was someone out here trying to make all Christians look bad.
by AntigoneRising on June 26th, 2007