by l2bridges on November 26th, 2008

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What is sub space?

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  • by altgirl84 on November 27th, 2008

    altgirl84

    The mind 'space' a sub achieves when the pain during a scene gets so intense, they cross a line from intense pain to intense pleasure. Like falling off a cliff so to speak :) For example, picture a scene where a Dom is whipping/flogging/caning a sub and it's causing the sub great physical pain. It can get to a point when those whips/flogs/canes suddenly don't affect the sub like they just were; the sub is now 'floating', not feeling the physical pain anymore, but experiencing a deep feeling of pleasure. They were able to rise above the pain and achieve nirvana.

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    • wow. That is wild.

      l2bridges

      by l2bridges on November 27th, 2008

    • Yup, very intense from what I hear. Takes much training and experience.

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on November 27th, 2008

    • Yep- you've been there with ME! and you will get to go there again Real Soon! (cleanes equipment in Autoclave)...

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on November 28th, 2008

    • Heh I certainly have :P No pain no gain ;)

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on November 28th, 2008

    • Very good explaination altgirl84. I learned something. Thank you. You are very knowlegable about BDSM.

      Freedom00

      by Freedom00 on January 9th, 2009

    • Aw thanks :) Yw :)

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on January 9th, 2009

    • altgirls a Great Bottom too!

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on January 10th, 2009

    • Ty ty 'Master' ;) xx

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on January 10th, 2009

    • altgirl- be a good girl and ck my profile at the bottom, go to site. let me know what you think- also note gmail addy. XOXOXOXXO

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on January 12th, 2009

    • Wowwww that's naaaughty :P And I only looked at the main page yet lol. Into some, not others. Thanks for the link tho, I'll look for what I'm 'into' ;) Mmmm. Good to know the addy too, I took a chance and added that to an msn of mine, not sure if you use that :P Xoxoxoxxox

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on January 12th, 2009

    • I found some of the things we have done on that site.

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on January 16th, 2009

    • Ahh did you ;) Which ones?

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on January 16th, 2009

    • I found vids of the ones we have done as well as the ones I plan to do- they're Hard stuff!

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on January 16th, 2009

    • Vids of nipple play? :P And the planned one hmmmm *mind goes into overdrive* :P

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on January 16th, 2009

    • The nipple play they do are Hard Stuff, log-in and see.

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on January 19th, 2009

    • Eeeek hard nipple play, not sure I can take it (even just watching). I've often even shuddered and turned my head when witnessing pics of that. But I'll try and watch a few for you ;)

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on January 19th, 2009

    • Oh the Zipper play is soooo cool, if you can't watch then don't. It's OK- some things should stay in the mind because the reality is just too strong.

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on January 21st, 2009

    • Aw thank you ;) Hmm zipper play...with a nipple? Ooh sounds intense! Ouchie :P

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on January 21st, 2009

    • nope, clothes pins with string at the armpits down the sides to the waist, then PULL! But can put some on your nips if you want???

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on January 22nd, 2009

    • Ahh yes I heard about that once on the kitty lips mmm I think I'd like a kitty zipper hehe. And the waist one would be nice too. Hmm maybe I could do a zipper 'around' the nips, for starters ;)

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on January 22nd, 2009

    • ok...

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on January 23rd, 2009

    • guess not lol

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on January 24th, 2009

    • no??? not even a "ummmmmm, maybe...(whisper) from you. I could give you several shots to numb and then add some pointy things too???

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on January 29th, 2009

    • Oh I want to lol I just thought you didn't with your 'ok...' answer :P Numb and point me baby ;)

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on January 29th, 2009

    • Allways Up for play- just playing "coy" before giving them some clovers and giving the chain a "Tug" leading you to the "Laborotory" for some 'treatement"...

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on February 2nd, 2009

    • Heh yes I can be a coy lil girl :P Whimpers and follows quickly with the chain, not wanting any unbearable tugs to pull my poor lil nippies farther...

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on February 2nd, 2009

    • (Snickers quietly thinking of the Replacement toys in the room)Grabs a container so I can make you a refreshment that will be Spiked to help with "sensitivity" but when I have some Ben will stay up for even more play (negeotiated with toy exploration by you) later...

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on February 4th, 2009

    • Mmmm bearable sensitivity and longer Ben hardness, yum :P Can't wait to play with the toys Master has set up for me ;)

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on February 4th, 2009

    • Ahhh, Negotiations in your near future (Tugs firmly on those clovers) and licks your neck...

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on February 4th, 2009

    • Mmm tit for tat huh ;) Whimpers at the tug and moans at the lick, hands sneaking down your body to find Ben...

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on February 4th, 2009

    • chews on your sweet hair pushing head back while holding chain, Bens slinking up to belt line...

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on February 6th, 2009

    • Mm sweet like the hair thing :) I follow along with your chain very eagerly and obediently *shivers* as I watch the slinking of ben like a snake about to attack ;)

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on February 6th, 2009

    • bites your neck as you attempt to follow me, your nips creating bolts and shivers with each tug of the chain creating more play musk from your body...

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on February 11th, 2009

    • Mmmm yes bite me dracula :P ooh sensations to the nips most certainly sends a bolt down to kitty to activate more 'musk' ;) i think ben looks a lil too dry, kitty might need to lube him up mmm.

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on February 11th, 2009

    • Bites neck firmly while nips are freed and you gasp in relief only for me to check kitty plunging finger so you don't move too far away...

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on February 12th, 2009

    • mmm i wont move away at all ;) ill push back hard into it and you yummy.

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on February 12th, 2009

    • Wraps arm around your back and gets ben for play, moves to other side of neck so you will Two hickies to show for your struggling...

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on February 13th, 2009

    • Mmmm hickies :P Nibble and bite away grrrr. Pets ben up and down feeling the rise...

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on February 13th, 2009

    • Ooops, put some all over your stomach. leans you on your back and buries head in cleavage then moves back and puts Ben there and begins thrusting, grabs your head so you can catch my Love juices...

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on February 19th, 2009

    • Mmmm i love when you bury your face in my chest like that, even better when ben finds a cushiny home there...opens mouth wiiiide...

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on February 19th, 2009

    • AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG- Squirts a stream of juice all over your face realizing I am grasping your nips HARD! did you remember to close your eyes?...

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on February 20th, 2009

    • Heh yes I close my eyes at the right time, luv that feeling on my eyelids tho mmm. Thorough face wash huh. Mouth opens even wider with a scream from the hard nip grasp, able to catch more juice in my dark cave yummy

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on February 21st, 2009

    • Swallow my Good Girl, It must NOT get on the covers! Continues to thrust Ben still trapped between your soft mounds leaking and dribbling...

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on February 23rd, 2009

    • i alllllways swallow ;) spittings rude :P a geyser gushing out from my mountain tops mmmm!

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on February 24th, 2009

    • Aaaaggggg- past your mouth and in your hair- you look Fab from Bens juice!

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on February 24th, 2009

    • mmm thank you babe ;) it looks gooood in my hair, snow white on jet black ;) nice conditioner, that'll get any tangles out hehehe

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on February 24th, 2009

    • totally- reminds me in our next shower and I will provide some, I like healthy hair...

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on February 25th, 2009

    • mmm i luuuuuv hot showers together ;) be my guest and 'squeeze out' some more heh. a few hours ago i put some leave-in conditioner in and every time i squeeze it out into my hands, i giggle because its identical to cum :P

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on February 25th, 2009

    • But does it Smell like Cum? sometimes the ones without scent Do smell like cum...

      Joke at a party I made a birthday cake in the shape of a 12 inch cock and put a bladder inside and filled it with a custard, Remotely activated i waited for the birthday girl to be at the end and then had it OOooooozzzz some out and she Actually leaned-in and licked! She go Sooooo razzzed and called "slut" and she said "Yep" and dragged her then boyfriend into the next room to get the real stuff!

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on February 25th, 2009

    • has a light scent of tangerines actually :P hehe very nice, woulda loved to see and eat that cake yummy!

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on February 25th, 2009

    • she lapped up the cream like a hungry kitten!

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on February 25th, 2009

    • yummy puuuuuurrrrrrr...ive also been told my tongue can be a lil rough like a cats, which is great for sensation on the underside ;)

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on February 25th, 2009

    • Meeeeoooowwwwww...

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on February 25th, 2009

    • ben's purring like a kitty huh ;) true what they say, even when you're on your knees, you've got them by the balls, mmmmmmmm

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on February 25th, 2009

    • Yep, some Men will do Anything Even for a Blow, not me- you gotta work for it...

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on February 26th, 2009

    • reeeeally, aren't you the chivalrious kind ;) oh I'll work for it babe don't you worry ;) I'll be on my knees begging, looking up with pleeeading eyes mmmm

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on February 26th, 2009

    • Shall I get a Hot dog bun for proper serving of your meal...

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on February 27th, 2009

    • yum :P and ben's cream will serve as condiments? :)

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on February 27th, 2009

    • Allways Hot for You and the highest quality condiments for you dining pleasure...

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on March 2nd, 2009

    • awww mmm thank you master ;) my fridge is always stocked :P

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on March 2nd, 2009

    • lots of sweet things hopefully!

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on March 3rd, 2009

    • ooh yes, i have a very big sweet tooth :) sugar plum fairy i am hehe.

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on March 3rd, 2009

    • If your going to have sweets your going to have to Earn them! (reaches in my pocket and retrieves a piece of Rope)...

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on March 4th, 2009

    • im a hard working sub dont worry ;) *lies on tummy and eagerly positions wrists behind on back for you...*

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on March 4th, 2009

    • Takes rope and secures wrists behind back, goes to other side of room to retrieve a Tool box...

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on March 4th, 2009

    • toooool box, 'screw' me babe ;)

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on March 4th, 2009

    • didn't say Screw but that could be Arraged as the Goal...Secures ankles to wrists and places pads under your knees, grabs hair and pulls head back and kisses you Deeply and commads 'Some very deep breathing might be in your future!...Brings and small table and places it next to you.

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on March 5th, 2009

    • ohh i like this ankle-to-wrist position and the hair pulling mmm hottt. kisses back fiercly and breathes deep into your mouth...

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on March 5th, 2009

    • the position is- Your hands behind your back tied at wrists and elbows, then your ankles together with a rope from ankles to your hands holding your back bent back slightly but you can balance because your knees are apart like a tripod.

      Is your hair long today?

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on March 6th, 2009

    • ooh what a pretzel-y position hehe. yup yup my hair's long, little lower than mid-back. lots of raven silky hair to wrap around your fists ;)

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on March 7th, 2009

    • Nope...(takes some ropes and wrapps hair and attaches to your hands to keep head slightly back so you can't see what I am doing! altgirl breaths and shudders as I roll several pin-wheels across her sides, thighs and sholders but you wiggle from the chills so I warm you with a... Rough towell smacked on your thighs and then your stomach causing Gasping deep breaths and more struggle testing limits...

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on March 9th, 2009

    • woww hair attached to my hands? ouchie :P definitely will keep my head back for suuure. pin wheels *shiiivers* then jumps and yelps at the rough towel smack, then purring mmm i like that master, plz more ;)

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on March 9th, 2009

    • Hair is long so the rope is taken at the top of your head and wrapped around the length and Then secured to your hands so if you move your head you feel a Tug on your Whole head.

      takes towel and wets half to increase the noise and sting "SMACK SMACK SMACK" while rolling those pin wheels up your body passing inches fron your nips- ooops missed the Target(s) and up your sholders across your uper back and around and down...

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on March 10th, 2009

    • *breathes deep trying to control panic of not being able to move at all mmm* wet towel spank daaamn thats harsh! ass turning rosey and moaning. shivering at the wheel and tensing at how close you were to my nips, holding my breath hoping they won't get any closer:)

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on March 10th, 2009

    • not too harsh, just a quick slap to make you jerk at the sting, don't hold your breath- B r e a t h S t e a d i l l y while I run the pin wheel over your sholders and...

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on March 11th, 2009

    • mmm dont worry i like the sting ;) oh yes i have to remember to breeeeeathe with those razor sharp sensations..love feeling the wheel spikes slowly dig into the flesh of my globes ;)

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on March 11th, 2009

    • (Watches your responses as I run the wheel down your sholders through your cleavage, watching the points create a trail of spots on your creamy white skin) Breath slowlely as I run the wheel around your stomach and "SMACK SMACK SMACK" on the back of your sholders then grabbs the second one and runs both up your ribs and then Pauses circling your nips watching them grow harder then ever in anticipation of the "When"...

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on March 12th, 2009

    • oooh such sensations! sweating and shivering, trying to control breathing ahhh. isnt it amazing watching nips harden right before your eyes, like they have a mind of their own ;) loving the smacks too mmm

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on March 12th, 2009

    • Little Empire state buildings they are...

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on March 12th, 2009

    • lol very apt description ;) what a view from the top hehe!

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on March 13th, 2009

    • someday you will gmail me a pic of just your B-Cups tall and ready! Meanwhile I suck in one of those tasty nips but i suck HARD so you feel your entire nip and part of your breast drawn into my mouth as I consume it as an Aperitif...

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on March 13th, 2009

    • ooh i wonder what you'd do with that pic ;) your mouth feels like a vacuum consuming me mmmm similar to mine when it's on ben;) hooooover :P

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on March 13th, 2009

    • Print it, Enlarge it, Frame it for the bathroom wall right below the other pics of various Un-edited body-parts photo's hidden in the private bathroom only the wife and I are allowed in. Note- That bathroom is Not Small and has a Lofty Rug on the floor...

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on March 14th, 2009

    • ooh a naughty private bathroom, kinky :P how hot to think of you two watching it while you play on that rug heh.

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on March 14th, 2009

    • Allways changing them but working on a new way to do it. Have you seen those Digital Picture Frames? Have a bunch of those that run through many photo's.

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on March 16th, 2009

    • ooh yes those frames are great; so many pic choices, one right after the other, oh the possibilities ;)

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on March 16th, 2009

    • totally, i plan to desighn a challenging array where the photo continues on the next one as the sequence plays.

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on March 16th, 2009

    • i bet you'll have one moving collage of erotic creativity ;)

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on March 16th, 2009

    • Actually I have one I am working on now but it's only three frames and it's Animated! a person standing (dom) holding a teather that goes from that frame through the next on Close up to the last one with another person crawling on there fours following. multiple drawingsso the crawling person moves a little and goes from one side of there frame to the other, my goal is to have many frames and have it go clear around the room and change senerios as it goes- Eventually it will get replaced with real people!

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on March 17th, 2009

    • wow that's hot and creative ;) luv to see that, a moving animated collage if you will mm

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on March 17th, 2009

    • Have you heard of Las Vegas, nevada? They have this shopping area with stores and Overhead is this incredible display using LED's. they put moving sealife and other views there. Go her to see! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide-2830388-action-pictures-fremont_street_experience_las_vegas-i-tgphotoid-2676512;_ylt=ApX46G01zqrRVVq6BqReA6iPFmoL

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on March 18th, 2009

    • Lol of course I've heard of Vegas ;) Yup I've seen those displays too, and the in other cities the big flashy billboards with video too, very nice!

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on March 18th, 2009

    • I saw this special and they showed the computer that creates the display and its incredible!

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on March 20th, 2009

    • sweeeeet ;)

      altgirl84

      by altgirl84 on March 22nd, 2009

    • wow... you have to be in control to know that

      joechef8

      by joechef8 on March 27th, 2009

    • Saw a Special that showed the wonders of Technology and it was one of the things covered! Also showed how the Balaggio Fountains work.

      Phil wonders where everyone is???

      by Phil wonders where everyone is??? on March 27th, 2009

    • i couldn't have expressed it any better....

      kimmyjo

      by kimmyjo on April 17th, 2011

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