by msummers10 on January 14th, 2007

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If Islam is a peaceful religion, where do extremists get the idea that they are supposed to kill the infidels? Do terrorists use a different version of the Koran(however you want to spell it)?

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  • by EL1 2 on January 14th, 2007

    EL1 2

    Let's see... Christians have never killed anyone in the name of religion. Oh wait... the Crusades. Oh, and the Inquisition. And the exploitation of native Americans in central and south America.

    What version of the Bible were they using?

    And the Jews too. With the help of the Europeans, we kicked the Muslims out of our mutual holy land and now we shoot them with advanced weaponry and bulldoze their houses.

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      EL1 2

      by EL1 2 on January 14th, 2007

    • I don't like it because not once do you mention the Koran. Not once do you actually mention the extreme Muslims. You only mention how we kicked them out of our mutual holy land(our?) and now we shoot them. That comes nowhere close to even remotely answering the question. Sorry.

      msummers10

      by msummers10 on January 15th, 2007

    • If you actually read my answer, you'd see that people of other major religions are no better. It makes no sense to ask what version of the Koran they're reading... because you know that the Crusaders were reading the same version of the bible.

      EL1 2

      by EL1 2 on January 15th, 2007

    • You still aren't answering the question. WHERE do they get the idea???

      msummers10

      by msummers10 on January 15th, 2007

    • They are just using the Koran as an excuse to hurt infidels. Why do they want to hurt infidels? Because they are intolerant. Intolerance is the cause of almost all violence.

      EL1 2

      by EL1 2 on January 15th, 2007

    • The suicide bombers obviously think that they are going to get something out of killing themselves. Is there a place in the Koran that could be interpreted as telling them to kill infidels to get to heaven?

      msummers10

      by msummers10 on January 15th, 2007

    • Does this answer it: Surah 4:74: "To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah whether he is slain or gets victory soon shall we give him a reward of great (value)."?

      EL1 2

      by EL1 2 on January 15th, 2007

    • But surely nobody can fail to notice the power differential between (for example) Israel and the Palestinians. I understand Israel being paranoid, but they're certainly not innocent of aggression in their relationship with their neighbors. The sad part about this conflict -- like so many similar conflicts -- is how much moral culpability there is to spread around on all parties.

      Stableboy

      by Stableboy on March 19th, 2007

    • Well I sense that this is an issue on which passion holds a tight grip with you, I guess I already have too many arguments going on at the moment.

      Stableboy

      by Stableboy on March 19th, 2007

    • If you want to avoid arguments then you must stop caring. SB, you seem like a very caring guy, therefore you will be in MANY arguments.

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      by 8 Jan 2004-10 Dec 2009 on August 15th, 2007

    • Christianity did not spread by war & swords & there is NO support whatsoever to use violenece under any circumstances in the Bible . Do not mix politics wearing a certain sign with the religion :)

      Anonymous AAA

      by Anonymous AAA on January 30th, 2009

    • Have you tried actually READING the Bible? It's completely filled with instructions from God to the Israelites to slay this group or the other! You can't possibly be serious.

      HasntBeen

      by HasntBeen on January 30th, 2009

    • Yes, you're right.

      However, what you're missing is that unlike with Islam, that's not widely applied anymore.

      Cultures that institute Islamic law, or Sharia law, are generally the most misogynistic, homophobic, xenophobic backwards cultures out there. Also, extremists from Islam use the Qua ran literally, as a genocide manual- fundamentalist Christians, on the other hand, use their Bible as a guide to spiritual warfare.

      Big difference.

      mickyjack045

      by mickyjack045 on April 6th, 2009

    • There is some difference, yes. The Christians are less likely to use the Bible to directly endorse warlike urges. However, as we've seen with the recent surge of "war on terror" groupthink, it's not that hard to locate the bumpers that have both "Jesus is the Answer" and "These colors don't run" side-by-side. The right wing politicoes have managed to co-opt conservative Christians and turn them into something like warmongers... a view which is entirely contrary to Jesus teachings. It's quite a work of political art, if you don't mind the blood.

      HasntBeen

      by HasntBeen on April 6th, 2009

    • Don't confused Christianity with Catholicism. Christians were being during the Inquisition and the Crusades. Not because you claimed to be a Christian that does not mean you are one. A true christian is a follower of Christ. Christ did not kill anyone or teach that anyone should kill. 'LOVE YOUR ENEMIES, PRAY FOR THOSE WHO PERSECUTE YOU'

      Nabihigh

      by Nabihigh on January 22nd, 2010

    • persecuted (the missing word from the post above)

      Nabihigh

      by Nabihigh on January 22nd, 2010

    • The Crusaders were born out of the need to retaliate the Muslim conquest of most of Europe's Christian lands. The Christians had no choice but to fight back because the muslims were going to wipe them off the face of the Earth. It was justifiable in that sense. Muhhammad's army kill non-muslim men and boys and took their women as sex slaves. What would you do in that situation? Sit there and let them rape your wife and daughter before they chop your heads chopped off ?

      http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-871902797772997781#docid=8486968447811516661

      http://alisina.org/understanding-muhammad/

      Westernlight

      by Westernlight on June 21st, 2011

    • It's interesting that no historian I've ever heard of agrees with your take on the Crusades. Islam was far away in the Middle East, Europe was largely beyond the reach (or interest) of Muslim population centers, and the Christians went far out of their way to go fight.

      If you're suggesting that Palestine somehow "belonged" to the Christians, that's going to be a tough point to support.

      So, I think "no pass" is granted to your version of history.

      HasntBeen

      by HasntBeen on June 21st, 2011

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