• Short term memory loss... Leviticus 20:13 comes after 19:19.
  • They cherry pick the verses which coincide with preexisting prejudices and discard the rest.
  • Homosexuality is mentioned in the NT.
  • Romans 1:26-27 "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet." That's the new testament and very clearly against lesbianism and homosexuality.
  • For starters, nothing in the old testament instructs Christians since they did not exist. This is why Christians are able to cherry pick. They disregard stuff they want to do and latch on to things they wish to condemn in others.
  • The "prohibitions" against mixed fiber cloth and sowing a field with two different seeds weren't even prohibitions for the Jews, let alone Christians... at least not literally. The passage comes as a seal on a list of the highest and most exalted moral instructions (a recapitulation/elaboration of the Decalogue). The culminating passage reads: "I am the LORD, *keep* my commandments. You shall not yoke together two kinds of livestock; you shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor wear a garment of two kinds of thread mixed together." These last 3 injunctions ... aren't! They're ancient agrarian proverbs that just mean don't mix things that don't mix, in this case, the laws of God with the customs and laws of heathans. Consider: no person in these times needed to be told not to do these things: yoke an ox and a donkey together and they fight or go in circles; sow a field with two different crops at the same time, and you'll waste at least one of them and probably ruin both since they mature and ripen at different rates and you can't harvest them independently at different times; weave a cloth with some threads of wool and others of linen and it will wear and shrink unevenly ruining it. Everyone knew these things and none would do them. They are proverbs on the order of "Don't put all your eggs in one basket" and "Don't count your chickens until they've hatched." In their context these are just proverbs used to emphasize exactly what was meant by "*KEEP* my commandments". They weren't only to obey the commandments of 19:1-18, they were to preserve them and not muck them up by confusing and combining them with other outside influences -- which simultaneously cautioned against mixed-marriages with non-Israelites. As for the Leviticus passage against homosexuality, that falls in the middle of a section forbidding adultery, incest, rape, child-sacrifice, and various forms of sexual perversion including beastiality and temple prostitution - all of which are still pretty much on the modern generally accepted NO-NO list. Now, if you want something you can throw back in the faces of at least many Christians, point out that one of the perversions forbidden and condemned in Chapter 20 is sexual relations during menstruation, and it comes just 5 verses after the prohibition of homosexuality (between males - Lesbianism isn't even hinted at). Of course, the penalty for sex during menstruation is exile while the penalty for sex between males is death, but it's still classed as a major-league sin. All that being said, the NT specifically forbids and condemns homosexual acts, and would seem to say that homosexual desires are a defiling confusion/affliction brought on by the sin of "worshipping creatures and created things instead of the creator." Thus Christians are certainly warrented (arguably required) by their religion to believe and teach that homosexual acts are sins.
    • Thinker
      Those "condemning" laws regarding homosexuals pertained to using homosexual acts in the Jewish worship services as the pagans did and pederasty. The Lord God does not object to Adult, consensual, non pagan, non pederasty homosexual acts any more than He does to consensual heterosexual acts. The church has twisted these laws so long people believe them to be true without researching and learning the truth of the Bible for themselves.
  • 6-5-2017 To understand the bible, the first thing you have to get straight is TO WHOM IT IS ADDRESSED. Portions of the bible are addressed to Jews, gentiles, or the church of God, and something addressed to one group may or may not apply to another group. The name of that book is Leviticus, which means "to the Levites". Christians can read it and learn from it, but when it says to do something, that does not apply to them because it is not addressed to them. Homosexuality destabilizes a community because a young man needs a woman. Another man is not good enough.
    • Thinker
      I was in total agreement with you until I got to the last paragraph. See my comment to stormarm above. I am not homosexual but I have read and researched the truth of the Bible in this respect.
    • Jewels Vern
      There are laws, and then there are laws. Before any commandments were given, God proclaimed a natural law: "It is not good for the man to be alone." The only cure ever found for that problem is to fall in love with a woman. Military service is a poor second. Any insurance company will tell you the exact cost of that natural law: unmarried men pay a lot more for insurance.
    • Thinker
      The Lord God never said that man was to fall in love with only a woman. He is more concerned there is love. The love between two men or women can be as strong as between a man and a woman. Homosexuals find it unthinkable to love the opposite sex just as those of us find it unthinkable to love one of the same sex. Those whom claim Genesis 2:24 is incorrectly translated. Because "woman" as translated as such hermeneutics requires the word to be the same thereafter. Strong's Concordance lists the word in H802 as first woman second wife. the verse should read..."cling to a woman, could be a wife" or ..."not necessarily a wife". Wife was used instead to make the Bible more masculine.
    • Jewels Vern
      Genesis 2:18 And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. 19 And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. 20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him. 21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; 22 And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. 23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. 24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
    • Jewels Vern
      You don't need to argue with me. Take it up with the author.
  • Actually I do look at the labels on the clothes because of that scripture. 100% cotton is what is recommended in the Bible. I still buy blends as well but find my skin prefers the pure materials. Not all Christians ignore that scripture, we just see it as a RECOMMENDATION not a LAW.
  • Leviticus 19:19 "You are to keep My statutes. You must not crossbreed two different kinds of your livestock, sow your fields with two kinds of seed, or put on a garment made of two kinds of material." Deuteronomy 22:11 "Thou shalt not wear a garment of divers sorts, as of woollen and linen together." Wool is the textile fiber obtained from sheep and other animals, including cashmere and mohair from goats, qiviut from muskoxen, angora from rabbits, and other types of wool from camelids. ----------------------------------- Linen /ˈlɪnᵻn/ is a textile made from the fibers of the flax plant.
  • Exodus 34:26 "The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of the LORD thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk." ------------------------------------------ Do not seethe a kid in his mother's milk. Lambs eat flax plants... ---------------------------------------- ----------------------------- Maybe, do not put the Provider and the Provided together as one as 'equal'.. Servant is not greater than his Master...And borrower is not equal to the lender.. And creatures and creation is not equal to The Creator. I guess if I can keep that in mind, I will always remember that i am lower than HIM.
    • Anoname
      I love your choice of scripture here. This is why it's considered unkosher to mix milk and meat products. Another translation puts it a bit more plainly: Don't cook an animal in it's mothers milk. Cheese comes from milk. Milk comes from cows. Hamburgers are cow. Cheeseburgers are unkosher.
  • The mixing of different seeds in sowing was not permitted, though seeds of different kinds could be sown, each kind in separate places in the same field. (Le 19:19; Isa 28:25) This may have been to keep the Israelites mindful of their separateness and distinctness as God
  • because the darn 'christians' like to pick'n choose what they wanna believe, or what they want 'us' to believe.......another one that cracks me up is the one about shellfish.........hell, if that was followed, there'd be no Red Lobster restaurants, right? LOL..................ridiculous all the way around!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Not all the "laws" of the Old Testament are for Gentiles but for the Jews only. Also when Jesus arose from the grave He gave us a new law, The Law of Love. (Matthew 22:36-40) The Old Testament Law was done away with Jesus Christ's Resurrection. Those whom have accepted Jesus Christ as their Saviour are saved from the Old Testament Law. If you do not accept Jesus Christ as your Saviour you are still subject to the Old Testament Laws with regard to the gentiles.

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