Are Mormons allowed to drink alcohol?

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• Right...kinda like how I am free to commit murder. It is really interesting to hear a mormon talk about freedom...it betrays the religions early cult-roots. Anyway, the Word of Wisdom states that barley is to be used for the making of mild drinks, so I have no idea why later prophets decided that god changed his mind later and said "no beer." Actually I DO know why. Mormonism is an infomercial. EVERYTHING that they do is an attempt to promote an image of success. Missionaries are to be clean cut, no tattoos no piercings no radical hairdos, suit and tie, leather scripture set, etc. Church meetings are testimonials, just like in infomercials, where people stand up and talk about how well the product is working for them. And people on the outside WANT THAT SUCCESS. People want to be a part of something grand. So they join. And they pay money, because if you don't pay tithing you can't go to the temple, and you can't get to the top heaven unless you've done the temple. Pyramid scheme

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  by TheicidalManiac on February 27th, 2008

• Wow. I searched the internet because i heard a funny Mormon joke on The Office and i was trying to find where they got the material from. I wasn't prepared to be blindsided by this. Answerbag owes you a new member. Do you enjoy spreading stuff about other religions? And i can tell you've never been to an actual sacrament, or you would know that testimony meetings are not the regular meetings. I'm not going to attack you or what you said. But I am going to say that while some people seem to enjoy finding new ways to hate the Mormon church, that church does nothing but teach teir understanding of Christ. And tithes are required by the bible--read it. And the top two areas that money is spent on is humanitarian causes and far behind is education. Sheesh, stop wasting your time hating people you don't even know.

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  by dawgshark89 on August 22nd, 2009

• HA HA HA HA HA...I was LDS for 15 years. "And i can tell you've never been to an actual sacrament, or you would know that testimony meetings are not the regular meetings" Well, I DIDN'T actually say that, DID I. Even the regular meetings are testimonials, they just have SCHEDULED speakers instead of impromptu speakers. I stand by my statement, emphatically.
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  The Mormon church does MUCH MORE than just teach its understanding. It comes to my doorstep, it encourages voting blocs, and it suckers people out of their money. And as far as your claim that tithing is spent on humanitarian efforts, well, you don't know that because the church doesn't publish that information and they haven't for DECADES. You have assumed that, wrongly. In 1995, Hinckley told Time magazine that 70% of tithing goes to the building and maintaining of church buildings and to fund LOCAL church activities, some is spent on charity, and that the rest is put away "for a rainy day."
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  Unh.

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  by TheicidalManiac on September 29th, 2009

• "Anyway, the Word of Wisdom states that barley is to be used for the making of mild drinks,"
  Some people think this was a referance to beer, but we later latter-day saints know that it's talking about Pero and Postum very good for you. ;^)

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  by John Cox on November 17th, 2009

• Surley God can spend his money how he sees fit.

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  by AndyP on December 1st, 2009

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• Do you mean that people have to drink wine and associate with vile sinners in order to follow Jesus?

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  by laie_techie on September 18th, 2009

• Besides if Jesus asked you to abstain from fish and honey comb wouldn't you? Even though we know He ate fish and honey comb, if He asked you not to would you argue?

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  by John Cox on November 17th, 2009

• That wine was not alcoholic.

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  by Clasic(R)ock on February 23rd, 2010

• how do you know the wine was not alcoholic? It doesn't say in the bible if it was or wasn't. It says it was the best wine the guests had had all night which was weird because usually the best wine was served first.

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  by A.Nicole on October 22nd, 2010

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• So should we abstain from food because we might use food in excess? You yourself said that church members are fat. Should I sell my car because I might speed? Should I refuse anesthesia for my operations because I could get hooked on pain-killers?
  BTW, if praying is THE ONLY WAY to get a correct answer then is it necessary to pray before each question on your math exam, and if so, does that mean that there is no need to study? Does that mean that, as a non-praying atheist, the only reason that I have made correct choices in my life is because I got lucky? lol...oh man, religion is a gas!

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  by TheicidalManiac on February 27th, 2008

• convert23 was talking about the scriptures that admonish people to abstain from GLUTTONY, not food. Biblical principles taken in proper context are just healthy living and common sense.
  As far as prayer goes, that is up to you whether or not to believe in it, and I do not see why you feel a need to insult people who choose to believe that way, but hey; whatever makes you feel better about yourself.

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  by Weezey on December 13th, 2008

• So, what if my geneitc makeup is such that I become fat on a regular diet? What if I am Samoan? Might I not find myself saying to convert23, "where is your Messiah NOW?"
  :)
  This is not a matter of insult, it is a matter of pointing out flawed thinking, and someone's attempt to infuse logically fallacious ideologies into the mainstream intellect, thereby poisoning an already dangerously toxic well.

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  by TheicidalManiac on December 14th, 2008

• "TheicidalManiac"... you sir, are what we in the normal world of thought call "retarded." It seems that you're pissed off at something gone wrong. You have yourself to blame for that. And now you're a grade A douche-bag. You suck, and may God have mercy on your stained soul.

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  by oldmanwalthouse on June 13th, 2009

• I cannot believe that you managed to get off on a weight issue when this question was so specific. No I am not saying fat is good but to compare portion control to the the inability to make clear decisions under the influence and do something stupid ...well that's a really stupid remark. clearly you have a prejudice --lest I remind you...God loves alllllllllll his children not just the perfect ones.

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  by typetunia on January 24th, 2011

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• Speaking of clear doctrine, the Word of Wisdom says that among the intended uses of barley is for the making of mild drinks. That's BEER. It's not a soft drink, but it isn't a hard drink, it's a mild drink made from barley. That's beer, dude. So if the PURPOSE of barley includes the mild drink, doesn't that make it your DUTY to drink beer? If not, then why did your god change his mind? BTW, are you super-grateful that your god speaks King James-era English? I bet that's really convenient.

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  by TheicidalManiac on February 27th, 2008

• I agree that from my reading, beer is allowed. Of course, it also says we should eat meat only when needed, and that the eating of meat any other time is not pleasing to God, and was not God's intent.
  
  So any LDS members not using meat sparingly are not following the WoW, and I would guess that is the majority of them.
  
  Seems obvious to me all LDS members should be at least mostly vegetarian,
  (more so in warm climates, less so in colder areas) and that while they probably shouldn't drink beer, they are certainly entitled to without any concern from others or any concern for their temporal or spiritual salvation.
  
  Also note that the WoW is "not by commandment or constraint" and is not binding in any way. It is simply "wisdom" which is "wise" to follow, and if one does follow it (in fullness, not ignoring parts you don't like or find hard), then they will be blessed above those who don't follow it fully.
  If you want the additional blessings, follow it. Otherwise don't.

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  by golfidiot on September 17th, 2008

• You raised 3 points:
  
  - Beer: Is not permitted. All alcoholic beverages (we're talking enough alcohol to have an effect; yes, there's probably some miniscule amount in all fruit juices) fall into the category of 'strong drink'. If you want to know more about 'mild drinks' made from barley, then check the labels on coffee substitutes like Ecco, Caro, Nature's Cuppa, etc - or, for that matter, Milo.
  
  - Meat: Is very much overused by many Latter-day Saints, true.
  
  - 'Not by commandment or constraint': Was the case when originally given, but it became a requirement a few decades later. Not that any commandment is ever enforced at gunpoint or anything, but Mormons who break the Word of Wisdom's prohibitions are not considered 'in good standing', so they aren't permitted to enter temples.

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  by Anonymous on September 19th, 2008

• Say, golfidioy....I've heard that line get parroted for a decade and a half...the one about the WoW "not being a commandment." Well guess what; that's a meaningless statement. Don't you ever get a little ill with yourself for accepting obvious distortions like that one? Let me ask you this...
  1) To be TRULY saved in the LDS faith, to attain the ultimate salvation, is it necessary to go through certain temple services, yes or no?
  2) Can you enter a temple without a temple recommend?
  3) Are you (supposed to be) allowed to get a recommend if you are not adhering to the Word of Wisdom?
  --(answer key: 1) yes, 2) no, 3) no.)
  Of course people lie, and also rules get bent, but if you are "unclean" you aren't 'posta be in the temple, and without the temple, you're essentially hosed...according to the LDS church.
  
  Oh also, another requirement to get a recommend to get saved: pay 10% tithing.

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  by TheicidalManiac on October 5th, 2008

• Anonymous - those "mild drinks" (Ecco, Caro) are soft drinks. Beer is MILD because, compared to grain alcohol, it's less than 8% alcohol, while liquor is typically between 30% and 99% alcohol. Even if we accept it that postum or whatever other mormon coffee you can think is the "mild" beverage inquestion, it begs the question as to why barley drinks would be singled out; not only are there other drinks that could be called mild (like milk, lemonaid, water and certain teas that are "mormon approved"), but barley also represents a small percentage of the source of alcoholic beverages. It wouldn't make sense to single barley out like that. Unless....unless someone was thinkin of beer! Also, the FDA found that Postum (and presumably other barley drinks of that kind) contains acrylamide, a suspected carcinogen, in quantities over 20 times higher than a comparable portion of coffee, so...not a good substitute, really. http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/acryexpo/acryex1.htm
  ===If you eat meat more than once or twice a week, which is nearly all Americans including Mormons, you are, medically speaking, eating too much meat.
  ===Thank you for being honest about the WoW and temple worthiness. Most Mo's are not up front about that.

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  by TheicidalManiac on October 5th, 2008

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• My view on this subject is a little different. I believe that if all of our members truly followed the doctrine of the church, then there wouldn't be any fat members of the church. The reasoning behind no alcohol is anyone drinking it might drink it in excess and therefore be under the influence of it. The person is then unable to make clear decisions, and might do something stupid. Why is it excepted to use food as a vice? It is used the same way as alcohol, and drugs everyday and yet it is not talked about. I feel that it is up to the individual person, not the church, to make the decision if they should have alcohol. If you can't just have one beer, then you should not drink. But by that same reasoning if you do not have portion control, then you should seek help with your eating. My whole point is, to find out if something is really bad, then you need to pray about it. Thats the only way to find the true right answer.

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  by convert23 on December 10th, 2006

• Excuse me, I happen to know several members of the LDS church who are completley active who have a drink or two now and then. To say someone who is "COMPLETELY HAMMERED" might not be LDS is ludacris. The fact of the matter is this: to get to the highest level of heaven, you must go to the temple (ask any bishop)...to get to go to the temple you must be baptized and pay tithing (tithing is 10% of your annual income-ask any bishop)... so how do you figure that you don't have to pay tithing (MONEY) to get into heaven?! shoppingbaglady@yahoo.com

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  by Amber_H7045 on October 31st, 2010

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• those who don't are also kept from going to the temple, and receiving those blessings and ordinances. also told they will not make it into the highest level of heaven. guilt is a powerful tool.

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  by lurpman on April 9th, 2010

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