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  • well if you have 3 identical siamese twin attached brothers..and you only introduced two at a party... wouldnt you be upset
  • If you really want an answer to your question about the trinity involving the divinity of Jesus, then here goes. Christianity during Jesus time did not teach that he was god. Matter of fact Jesus even said that after he was gone, many of his teachings would be corrupted. Notice: "I know that after my going away oppressive wolves will enter in among YOU and will not treat the flock with tenderness, and from among YOU yourselves men will rise and speak twisted things to draw away the disciples after themselves." - ACTS 20:29,30 "However, the inspired utterance says definitely that in later periods of time some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired utterances..." - 1 Timothy 4:1 The Trinity Trinity (definition) – That the Father, the Son (Jesus), and holy ghost are all together god, each eternal, each almighty, and none greater of less than the other. The belief that Jesus Christ is god, is based on the idea of the trinity. But if you take a look at the history of this teaching: First the word trinity or the teaching is never found in the bible. Also the Encyclopaedia Britannica says that the belief of the trinity or that Jesus was god or was part of god did not even exist until two to three hundred years after the death of Jesus. The Encyclopedia Americana says - “Fourth century Trinitarianism was a deviation from early Christian teaching.” This teaching was adopted into “Christianity” from pagan religions from Egypt, Babylon, from Hinduism, and even from the philosopher Plato that taught the trinity belief 400 years before Jesus. Finally the trinity became the central teaching of the church not because of the bible but because of the order of the Roman Emperor Constantine who was pagan himself. He really couldn’t care less about bible teachings but only wanted to end the debate between church leaders to keep unity in his kingdom. After he made that decision in the year 381, anyone that openly disagreed with the trinity were violently persecuted or killed with the permission of the church. Back to the Scriptures After that history lesson In reading the bibles record of Jesus, Jesus never claimed to be God or any part of God. Everything he said about himself indicated that he did not consider himself equal to God in any way – not in power, not in knowledge, or age. The bible calls Jesus “the only-begotten Son” of God (John 1:14; 1 John 4:9) - First off, John 1:18 – “No man has seen God at any time…” (The bible says no man has ever seen god but thousands saw and interacted with Jesus during his earthly life.) - God has no beginning and no end. Psalms 90:2 – “…even from time indefinite to time indefinite you are God.” But the bible says that Jesus was “the firstborn of all creation.” (Colossians 1:15) Also see (Revelation 3:14) Unlike God, Jesus was created and had a beginning. - Notice another scripture. When a man came to fall at Jesus’ feet and then called him “Good Teacher”, Jesus said to him at Mark 10:17, 18 “Why do you call me good? Nobody is good, except one, God.” (If Jesus himself was god would that statement make any sense? Jesus always directed any praise to god, not to himself.) - John 14:28 – “The Father is greater than I.” (Jesus talking) - 1 Corinthians 11:3 - “…the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.” (The bible always talks of God of being superior in power to Jesus.) - Philippians 2:6 – “…Jesus Christ, who, although he was existing in God’s form (as a spirit in heaven) gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God.” - Also 1 Timothy 2:5 Says that the disciples viewed Jesus as the “one mediator between God and men,” not as God himself. A mediator is obviously someone separate from those who need mediation, not part of one of the two parties that need mediation. ---That’s just a short list of the many accounts since I did want to make this to long--- But the bible is clear and consistent about the relationship of God to Jesus. Jesus Christ always distinguishes himself from God and showed that he never desired to be seen or worshipped as god. That he only wished to do the will of his father. Consider Psalms 83:18 – “That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the most high over all the earth.” Isaiah 12:2 – “Look! God is my salvation. I shall trust and be in no dread; for Jah Jehovah is my strength and my might, and he came to be the salvation of me.” Jesus stressed the importance of his father’s name at John 17:26 – “I have made your name known to them and will make it known.” Even in Jesus model prayer: - Matthew 6:9 – “YOU must pray, then, this way: “Our Father in the heavens let your name be sanctified…” Another thing Many people don’t know that when they say Hallelujah, it means “praise Jah” short for Jehovah. Even Jesus’ name itself means “Jehovah is Salvation” The mother of the prophet Moses was named Jochebed, which means “Jehovah Is Glory” The prophet Joel in the bible, his name means, “Jehovah is God” The prophet Elijah in the bible name means “My God Is Jehovah” Isaiah’s name means “Salvation of Jehovah” Hezekiah, Josiah, Nehemiah, Obadiah, Zechariah and Zephaniah all are well-known Bible names whose meanings involve Jehovah, or Jah, the shorter poetic form of Jehovah’s name. Even many people’s names today have Jehovah in their meaning: Johnson means “Jehovah has favored” The name Jonathan means, “Jehovah has given” Joshua means, “Jehovah is salvation” or “Jehovah rescues” Jacqueline, Jackie, Jacquelyn, John and Jack means, “Jehovah has been gracious” Chanya means “The Grace of Jehovah” Kayla means “Jehovah has given” Joey means "Jehovah increases" Jesse means “Jehovah exists” Jeremiah and Jeremy means “appointed by Jehovah” Josiah means “Jehovah supports” Joe or Joesph means “May Jehovah give increase” Jane, Jan, Janelle, Janet, Janice, Janie, Janine, Joan, Joanne, Jodie, Joni, Jonie, Joanna, Johannah all are variations that mean “Jehovah is gracious” One last thing: Also remember that “god” is not a name, it’s a title. Just like “boy” or “king”, “God” and “Lord” are titles, “God” is anything you choose to worship. Your money can be your “God”, your possessions can be a “God”, but the only God the bible points to is Jehovah, God’s name. ---Explanation of pictures--- -The "Christian" Trinity was just a pagan belief that was incorporated into the church hundreds of years after Christ. The pictures are of the Hundu trinity, then the ancient Egyptian trinity, and finally the "Christian" trinity. -An ancient painting of the scene in Nicaea when Emperor Constantine made his decision-
  • We don't have the authority to choose God's Nature. All we can do is look to Scripture. And Scripture refers to the Father as God. Jesus is the Son of God. I am the son of my father, who was human. How can I be anything else? And if the Spirit of God isn't God, what else can He be?
  • Why not a duo? YOu will have to ask God himself that one. He cannot be something He is not, nor never was.
  • God has revealed Himself to us as a Trinity and not as a duo. The doctrine of the Holy Trinity states there is one true God who is made up of three separate but equal persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The Bible does not contain the word Trinity. However, the Holy Trinity is hinted at repeatedly in both the Old and New Testaments. For many biblical references, see: http://www.cwo.com/~pentrack/catholic/Trinity.txt Under the influence of the Holy Spirit, the early Christians prayed and struggled over these hints for a couple of centuries. The concept of the Holy Trinity (three equal persons in one God) was mainstream Christianity in 325 C.E. at the Council of Nicaea and our belief is expressed in the Nicene Creed. How this works is not fully known and is one the Christian mysteries. The doctrine of the Holy Trinity is shared by most Christian denominations including Roman and Orthodox Catholics, Lutherans, Anglicans, Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, Pentecostals, Episcopalians, and the Salvation Army. For more information, see Catechism of the Catholic Church, sections 232 and following: http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt1sect2chpt1art1p2.htm#232 The major non-Trinitarian churches are Christadelphianism, Christian Science, Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Arian Catholicism, Unitarianism, Nontrinitarianism, and Oneness Pentecostals. With love in Christ.
  • A great question. In the 3rd century there was a spiritual war that took place. One group claimed the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were a Trinity...3 in one. The other group claimed they were not. It turned out, if you did not believe the first view...you would die...probably burning at the stake. Consequently, the former had quite a turn out. Nevertheless...The Father is a person...as is the Son. So, what is the Holy Spirit? Is it a person? NO! Although it can seem that way, the Bible says when the Holy Spirit descended upon Jesus...it was in the form of a "dove"..NOT a human! [Mrk 1:10] The Holy Spirit is an extension of the Father. He is a spirit and does not posses arms and hands. This Holy Spirit is what he used in Creation and any other manifestations. An example is at Pentecost...when the Holy Spirit arrived...was "POURED" out.. and "filled" everyone. [Does one 'pour' a person out?] The book "The Triune God", theologian Edmund Fortman states: "Although this 'spirit' is often described in personal terms, it seems quite clear that the sacred writers [of the Hebrew Scriptures] "never" conceived or presented this 'spirit' as a distinct person."
  • Rather than point to a creed, I would like to point out the Biblical answer. In 325 A.D. Constantine brought government into what was supposed to be governed by The Holy Spirit. It was voted that the substance of Jesus was not the same as that of God.By mortal men. Nowhere in the scriptures (unchanged by man made creed and dogma) does it say that Jesus and God are of differing substance. It does say, "there are three that bare record in Heaven, The Father, The Word, and The Holy Ghost and these three are ONE.", and again,"Make them ONE as We are One." God and Jesus ARE One. Catholiscism may not preach it that way but Christianity always has.
  • In the beginning of Genesis, the holy spirit is said to be the wind. and in the story of the garden of eden, adam and eve walked with Jesus in the garden. I see the trinity as One Father Creator over all with Jesus being the mediator personality human to interface with people. and the Holy Spirit as the spirit side who interfaces with people and other spirits. Jesus is said to sit on the right hand of the Father. And the Holy Spirit is said to rule over the earth. I dont believe the trinity is equal in power. I just believe the trinity is the personality types we see from the creator Father. they all connect. The Father pulls the strings. Jesus was the obedient child and did as he was told. And the Holy Spirit is Jesus's Spirit, and The Father's Spirit, who is our earthly spirit realm guide to help us each day. The Creator is here invisibly moment by moment through the Holy Spirit. As is Jesus here through the Holy Spirit momemnt by moment. The spirit realm is a part of the natural order of things that humans have a hard time understanding. It is real and is filled with life and activity. The spirits have everything we have except bodies. yet they may even have that, but just not living cells. instead they have bodies made of energy.
  • John 1:18, which William sites as evidence that there is not a trinity, when taken in it's full context, is actually proof of it. "And the Word(Jesus) became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the father full of grace and truth...For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him." In fact, in some translations of Jn 1:18, it actually reads "only begotten God." For how can God beget man? He creates us in his image, but we are not him. A man begets a son, a dog begets puppies, and a bever begets baby bevers. Therefore, God cannot beget a mortal man. God begets God. And how can a mortal man exist in the "bosom of the Father"? Now, you might argue that perhaps John got it wrong, and somehow misunderstood. Fine. Despite the 1st century editions of the Gospel in the original Greek that exist, which match the currant translations in over 90% of the cases (and the remaining 10% being in word choice, not sentance structure, with only 2 notable exceptions, neither of which alter any doctrine) you can believe that humans are fallible. But Jesus says with his own lips, in John 8:58, "'I tell you the truth,' Jesus answered, 'before Abraham was born, I am!'" Jesus was a good Jewish boy. He was a rabbi, and preached in the temples, and by age 12 was so well versed in the Torah that He was able to discuss it in depth with the temple priests in Jerusalem. What He said was one of the deepest heresies a Jew could possibly make. He claimed the sacred name of the Lord, I AM, for his own. And God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM." And He said, "Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, 'I AM has sent me to you.'" Exodus 3:14 Now, no one can honestly say that Jesus was a bad person. So if he was a good man, why would he do something so insane as to blasphemy to the high heavens and take THE sacred name of God as his own? He certainly didn't need the publicity! He shows none of the characteristics of an insane man, and neither are the writings of the NT or OT the works of crazed men. Therefore, since Jesus is not a liar or an evil man, and isn't crazy, He must have been telling the truth when he said he was God. As for the Holy Spirit, it is mentioned in the very second line of the Bible; "The earth was without form, and void, and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters." Genesis 1:2 Many of the prophets and leaders in the OT are described as being "filled with the Holy Spirt" or "the spirit of God." David, the first messiah, was annoited with oil and became filled with the Holy Spirit, allowing him to rule Israel. The Holy Spirit is featured even more prominently in the New Testament. The reason why a trinitarian structure exists is because it is necessary for salvation. If God did not take upon Himself the form of a man, then we cannot be adopted as the Sons of God and be welcomed into the Kingdom of Heaven. If Jesus was just another prophet, then His death on the cross meant nothing. He was just a good man who was executed for no reason. And if there is no Holy Spirit, then we can never know God, for the Holy Spirit is the image of God inside us all. If you want more explination, you should ask a priest.
  • The Scriptures OT and NT are in perfect harmony. They cannot contradict. In light of this I use OT and NT to show that The Word DOES NOT fail. From the beginning The scriptures refer to God in the singular.Genesis 2:2 tells us,"and on the seventh day God ended HIS work." If there were two others (The Spirit moving upon the face of the deep)would not the scriptures have said, "their work"? Beyond this throughout the OT Jehova God is called "The Lord your God", For instance Isaiah 43:3 says,"For I AM The Lord thy God, THE Holy One of Israel, thy Savior." Notice, not "we are The Lords thy Gods", but He spoke in the singular. In Isaiah 48:17 The scripture reads,"Thus saith The Lord thy REDEEMER, The Holy One of Israel." Anyone that has even picked up a Bible knows that Jesus Christ is the Lamb slain before the foundation of the world (revelations) to REDEEM His people. The plan of redemption could not exist without The Sacrifice of Jesus Christ.So if Jesus Christ is The Redeemer, and Hebrews 13:8 states,"Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, today and forever." He is and was The God that the OT refers to here. Jesus Christ The Lord is referenced in the OT as Israels redeemer (He came unto His own and His own recieved Him not).So, we have the OT reference to the Messiah being called,"The Lord thy God". Also Psalms 103:3 says,"Bless The Lord Oh my soul and and forget not all of His benefits, who forgiveth all thine iniquities, who healeth all of thy diseases."Now the suffix -eth means to continue to do something. So if someone else came along healing their diseases, that would make the scriptures inconsistent.Because He said He heals ALL of their diseases.If the OT God (jehova) is not the same as Jesus The Christ, then how does Matthew 4:23 speak of Him (Jesus) "Healing all manner of sicknesses and all manner of disease."? Isn't that what The OT God Jehova was to do? Jesus also forgave sins and iniquities, but if He did this that would make Him putting a seperate God out of the picture. You see, as God in the flesh He could forgive sins and iniquities, heal and prophesy,as well as die for our sins as a sinless sacrifice. God in His Heavenly manifestation cannot die. However,He did indwell a body, spoken by the same Word of perfect faith that created heaven and earth and stepped down into that body for the purpose of redemption. In this way our Kinsman redeemer was both flesh of man and Spirit and Soul of The Most High God. "For in Him dwelt the fullness of the Godhead bodily". This also meant that He literally had the Words of life.We remember that Jesus asked the apostles if they would leave Him like the others, Simon Peter said,"to whom shall we go, for thou hast the Words of life.",In Matthew 7:23 Jesus explained,"Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of MINE and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man..." So Jesus said that His as Words were in fact His, but He also said that He must,"be about His Fathers business". So His Word is His fathers business. It is written also, that ,"No man can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will hold to the one and despise the other." So, there cannot be two masters, Jesus and God,God and the Holy Ghost, Jesus and The Holy Ghost. There is a God, Body (Jesus),Soul (God) and Spirit (The Holy Ghost). In this way He made man after His own likeness, having a body, soul and spirit. Remember that in Genesis He made man after His own image and it wasnt until later that He put Adam in a body of clay. This might give you insight into the fact that God could exist and infact be Jesus Christ before the body (which we identify as the man in Hoffmans head of Christ)was manifest among us. It was this form that was indwelled by and created by The Holy Ghost.Matthew chapter 1 tells us that Jesus was concieved (not of Mary)of the Holy Ghost. This was the same indwelling of sinless clay that Adam had except that Adam did not come through the womb. This is why I believe that there is no place for "the trinity".
  • Maybe this will help. Enjoy!!! John DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY A. Definition. 1. The word "trinity" is not found in the Bible. It is a technical theological word coined in the fourth century A.D. to describe a theological concept. 2. The doctrine of the trinity recognizes God as being one in essence but three persons who possess equal, perfect, eternal and infinite identical essence. 3. Therefore, trinity is used to describe three persons in one Godhead. There is only one divine nature or being. 4. This divine being is tripersonal, involving distinctions between the Father, Son, and Spirit. These three persons are joint partakers of exactly the same nature and majesty of God. 5. There is one true God, but in the unity of the Godhead there are three coequal, coeternal persons. They are the same in substance or essence, but distinct in subsistence or continuing in existence. 6. The trinity is a revealed doctrine. It embodies truth never discovered; hence, it is undiscoverable by natural reason. 7. Since each person of the Trinity has the same essence, God is described as one. But they are different as persons. 8. Distinctions are made between the members of the Trinity, as described in 2 Cor 13:14. "The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God [the Father] and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with all of you." 9. The word "trinity" was first used by Tertullian in the second century to designate a Biblical doctrine. The doctrine of the trinity was confirmed by the Council of Nicea in A.D. 325. After much controversy, including the heresy of Arius, Sabellius, and Paul of Samosata, they finally came to a correct understanding of the doctrine. 10. Therefore, the doctrine of the trinity is defined as: God is one in essence but three coequal, coeternal, and coinfinite persons. 11. When divine essence is the subject, God is said to be one. When divine persons are the subject, distinction is made between the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. 12. For this reason we have different Hebrew names for God. The plural noun Elohim implies more than one person in the Godhead. The singular noun JHWH (Adonai, Jahweh, or Jehovah) is used to distinguish between the persons. Elohim emphasizes the one essence of God. Jehovah emphasizes one person in the Trinity, usually God the Son. B. Scripture Verification. 1. The plural pronoun for God, Elohim, is used in Gen 1:26, 3:22, "Let us make man," and in Isa 6:8, "Whom shall I send and who will go for us?" 2. Ps 110:1, "The Lord [God the Father] said to my [David's] Lord [God the Son]." 3. The distinction is delineated in Ps 2:7, "I will announce the decree of the Lord [God the Father]. He said to Me [God the Son], `You are My Son [deity of Jesus Christ]. This day [day of incarnation] I have begotten You.'" This is quoted three times in the New Testament, in Acts 13:33, Heb 1:5, and Heb 5:5. 4. Isa 48:16, "Come near to Me; listen to this. From the first, I have not spoken in secret. From the time it took place, I was there. And now the Lord God [God the Father] has sent Me [God the Son], and His Spirit [God the Holy Spirit]." 5. Mt 28:19, "Go therefore and make disciples [Bible students] of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit." This is a reference to the pre-Canon period of the Church Age in which water baptism was practiced to illustrate the baptism of the Holy Spirit by the use of ritual. 6. In Jn 10:30, Jesus said to the crowd, "I and the Father are one." He was referring to divine essence. The Father and the Son are two distinct persons in the Godhead, but they have identical essence. 7. Jn 14:16, "I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Counselor to be with you forever." The next verse explains that the Counselor is said to be "the Spirit of truth; He abides with you and He will be in you." 8. Thomas called Jesus both Lord and God when he saw Him in His resurrection body. Jn 20:28, "Thomas answered and said to Him, `My Lord, My God.'" 9. 1 Cor 12:4-6, "There are a variety of spiritual gifts, but the same Holy Spirit. And there are a variety of ministries [opportunities for Christian service], but the same Lord [God the Son]. And there are many different kinds of activities, but the same God [God the Father], who works all of them in all persons." 10. 2 Cor 13:14, "The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all." 11. 1 Pet 1:2, "According to the foreknowledge of God [the Father] by the sanctifying work of the Spirit, that you may obey Jesus Christ." 12. Rev 1:4-6, "John, to the seven churches that are in Asia: Grace to you and prosperity from Him who is [present state of the glorified Christ at the right hand of the Father], who has always existed [Jesus Christ as eternal God prior to the Hypostatic Union], who is to come [Second Advent], and from the seven spirits before the throne [God the Holy Spirit as the power system in both Christocentric dispensations], and from Jesus Christ, the dependable witness, the first formed from the dead, also the ruler of the kings of the earth. To Him who loved us and has liberated us from our sins by means of His blood, and He has provided for us a royal power as priests to God, even the Father." C. Though one in essence, God is three in persons. 1. In the doctrine of the unity of God, there is only one essence or substance. 2. In the doctrine of the persons of the Godhead, the individuality of the Father, Son, and Spirit is preserved against the notion that there are only modes of God. The idea of modes of God is a false doctrine dating back to the fourth century. It implies that one God has various modes for various purposes in dealing with man, whether in creation or at salvation. That is a false doctrine. 3. God is one, yet in Himself, and from all eternity past, He is three separate and distinct persons: the Father, the Son, and the Spirit. 4. Argumentation for the trinity begins in Genesis with the use of plural pronouns for God. a. Gen 1:26, "Let us make man in our image." Therefore, more than one person in the Godhead is involved. b. Gen 3:22, "Then the Lord God said, `Behold, man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil.'" c. Isa 6:8, Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, `Whom shall I [God the Father] send, and who will go for us ?'" 5. When a distinction is made between the persons of the Trinity, it refers to a specific activity of specific persons in the Godhead. a. 1 Thes 1:2-3, "We give thanks to God [God the Father] always for you, making mention of you in our prayers, constantly bearing in mind your work of faith and labor of love and steadfastness of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ in the presence of God our Father." So distinction is made between the Father and Son. They have identical essence, but they are two separate and distinct persons. b. 1 Pet 1:2, "According to the foreknowledge of God the Father, by the sanctifying work of the Spirit, that you may obey Jesus Christ." c. Tit 3:5, "He [Jesus Christ] saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and the renewing of the Holy Spirit." Distinction is made between our Lord Jesus Christ and God the Holy Spirit. d. Tit 3:6, "Whom He [God the Father] poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior." e. 2 Tim 1:13-14, "Retain the standard of sound doctrine which you have heard from me in the faith and love which are in Christ Jesus. Guard through the Holy Spirit who dwells in us the treasures which have been entrusted to you [the deposit of Bible teaching]." 6. However, Jesus Christ is the only visible member of the Trinity, Jn 1:18, 6:46; 1 Tim 3:16; 1 Jn 4:12. D. The Distinctive Function of the Trinity. 1. While the Bible distinguishes between the members of the Trinity, it refers to the activity of specific persons in the Godhead. 2. All three members of the Trinity provided salvation. a. God the Father planned salvation according to Isa 14:27; Jn 4:34, 5:17, 12:44; 1 Cor 8:6; Eph 3:11. b. God the Son executed salvation on the cross, Jn 4:34, 5:17; 1 Pet 2:24, 3:18; Rom 5:8; Heb 10:7. c. God the Holy Spirit reveals the message of salvation. Under the doctrine of common grace, He makes the Gospel perspicuous, Jn 16:8-11. 3. Each person of the Trinity indwells the body of every Church Age believer. Distinction is made between them. a. The indwelling of God the Father is found in Jn 14:23; Eph 4:6; 2 Jn 9. b. God the Son indwells us according to Jn 14:20, 17:22-23; Rom 8:10; 2 Cor 13:5; Gal 2:20; Col 1:27; 1 Jn 2:24. c. The indwelling of the Holy Spirit is found in Rom 8:11; 1 Cor 3:16, 6:19-20; 2 Cor 6:16. d. Only in this unique Church Age does God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit indwell us. 4. Each person of the Godhead provides divine power for the function of the protocol plan. a. The omnipotence of God the Father is related to our portfolio of invisible assets. He is also the designer of the divine dynasphere. b. The omnipotence of God the Son is related to the preservation of the universe as well as the perpetuation of human history. c. The omnipotence of God the Holy Spirit is related to residence, function, and momentum inside the divine dynasphere. E. Though three in persons, God is one in essence. 1. There is one God, yet three who possess every attribute of deity equally, perfectly, and eternally. 2. There is a unity of essence and a plurality of persons belonging to the same divine being. 3. The persons of the Godhead are not separate and independent beings, such as Peter, James, and John; but three persons with identical essence eternally and inseparably united as one in essence. 4. They are three individuals, Father, Son and Spirit, yet one God. Neither is God without the other, and each with the other is God. 5. God is one in essence yet three distinct persons, and these persons have identical substance. F. Illustrations of the Trinity. 1. The illustration given in the Bible is that God is light. a. 1 Jn 1:5. "And this is the message which we have heard from Him and we communicate to you, that God is light and in Him there is no darkness." b. Jn 1:5, "The light shined in darkness, and the darkness did not overpower it." c. Jn 8:12, "Again therefore Jesus spoke to them saying, `I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness but shall have the light of life.'" d. 1 Tim 6:16, "Who alone possesses immortality and dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen nor can see, to Him be honor and eternal dominion. Amen." 2. Light can be regarded from two different viewpoints. a. Light can be regarded from the standpoint of the colors in the spectrum which illustrate the essence of God. (1) Every ray of light from the sun is pure white, and yet it contains all the colors of the spectrum in light waves or particles of light. Particles of light operate on different waves, which is how we see color. (2) All color in the world depends on light. When all light is reflected from an object, the object is white. When light is absorbed in an object, the object is black. (3) Every ray of light has three primary colors: red, yellow, and blue. When a ray of light strikes an object so that the red and yellow are absorbed, the color reflected is blue. If the yellow and blue are absorbed, its color is red. (4) So when a ray of light strikes any object, certain parts are absorbed and certain parts are reflected. (5) The secondary colors are orange, green, and purple. Red plus yellow equal orange. Blue plus yellow equal green. Blue plus red equal purple. (6) Therefore, every color is in every ray of light. What colors are absorbed determine the color of an object as it reflects that light. (7) So light from the standpoint of color illustrates the essence of God. For just as God is one, light is one. However, light has many colors, just as God has many different attributes in His essence. Under certain conditions, you see certain attributes of God. b. Light can also be regarded from the standpoint of its composition. Light is one substance, but it is composed of three different properties: actinic, luminiferous, and calorific. (1) Actinic is a ray of light of short wavelengths that produces photochemical effects. Actinic is neither seen nor felt, a perfect illustration of God the Father. (2) Luminiferous is light produced by the emission of light occurring at a temperature below that of incandescent bodies. Luminiferous is both seen and felt, a perfect illustration of God the Son. (3) Calorific is light converted into heat. Calorific is not seen but felt, a perfect illustration of God the Holy Spirit. (4) Therefore, the composition of light is analogous to the three persons in the Godhead who are one. Light is one with three properties. God is one in essence but three persons. 3. Another illustration of the Trinity, not as good, is an egg. The yoke, white, shell are three parts, but there is only one egg. G. The Concept of the Trinity. 1. God is one in essence or substance. 2. God is three coequal, coeternal, and coinfinite persons in that one essence. 3. When divine essence is the subject, God is revealed as one. When divine persons are the subject, God is revealed as three separate and distinct persons. 4. In the unity of God, there is only one essence or one substance. 5. In the persons of the Godhead, there is God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. 6. 2 Cor 13:14, "The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ [God the Son], and the love for God [the Father], and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with all of you." 7. Eph 4:4-6, "There is one body and one Spirit, just as you have been called with reference to one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God, even the Father of all." The subject of this paragraph in Eph 4 is unity among the royal family of God. Verses 4-6 teach that just as there is unity in the Trinity, so in principle there is unity in the body of Christ. Verse 4 teaches there is "one Spirit. Verse 5 teaches there is "one Lord." Verse 6 teaches there is "one God, the Father of all." H. Summary of the Doctrine of the Trinity. 1. Trinity is not a Biblical word, but a technical, theological term to designate the three-fold manifestation of one God as Father, Son, and Spirit. 2. God is one in essence who exists eternally in three distinct, coequal, coeternal persons. 3. God is one, Gal 3:20; Jas 2:19. 4. But the Son (Jn 1:1, 14:9; Col 2:9) and the Spirit (Acts 5:3-4; 1 Cor 3:16) are also fully God, yet they are distinct from the Father and from each other. 5. The unified equality and yet distinction is seen in the triactic references to three persons, as noted in 2 Cor 13:14; Eph 4:4-6; 1 Pet 1:2. 6. The Old Testament reveals a plurality of persons in the divine name of Elohim, as well as in the plural pronouns of Gen 1:26 and 11:7, the plural verbs of Gen 11:7 and 35:7, the identity of the angel of the Lord as God in Ex 3:2-6 and Jud 13:21-22, and the references to the Spirit in Gen 1:2 and Isa 63:10. These all add up to the fact that God is one in essence but three separate and distinct personalities. 
  • My understanding is that, as opposed to individual-type entities such as the "Father" and "Son", the "Holy Spirit" is an activity, like an attitude or state of being. (But it's been 40 years since I hadda learn this; I very well may be in error.)
  • 1) "The Trinity is a Christian doctrine, stating that God exists as three persons, or in the Greek hypostases, but is one being. The persons are understood to exist as God the Father, God the Son (incarnate as Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit. Since the beginning of the third century the doctrine of the Trinity has been stated as "that the one God exists in three Persons and one substance, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit." Trinitarianism, belief in the Trinity, is a mark of Oriental and Eastern Orthodoxy, Roman Catholicism and all the mainstream traditions arising from the Protestant Reformation, such as Anglicanism, Lutheranism and Presbyterianism; and the Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church describes the Trinity as "the central dogma of Christian theology". This doctrine is in contrast to Nontrinitarian positions which include Binitarianism (one deity/two persons), Unitarianism (one deity/one person), the Oneness belief held by certain Pentecostal groups, Modalism, and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints' view of the Godhead as three separate beings who are one in purpose rather than essence. The doctrine of the Trinity was of particular importance historically. The conflict with Arianism and other competing theological concepts during the fourth century became the first major doctrinal confrontation in Church history. It had a particularly lasting effect within the Western Roman Empire where the Germanic Arians and the Nicene Christians formed segregated social orders." Source and further information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity 2) "Binitarianism is a Christian theology of two personae, two individuals, or two aspects in one Godhead (or God), as opposed to one (Unitarianism) or three (Trinitarianism). Classically, it is understood as strict monotheism — that is, that God is an absolutely single being; and yet there is a "twoness" in God. While bitheism is two separate beings in one "God family" who are in perfect harmony/agreement with each other/one another, composed of the Father and the Son as two distinct Gods, and the Holy Spirit as not a God, but rather as the living power of God that flows/emanates between both the Father and the Son. The Assemblies of Yahweh are Bitheists.[citation needed] LDS Mormons are Tritheists[citation needed]. Unlike Binitarians, Bitheists, and Unitarians, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints teaches that the Holy Spirit is not the Living Power of God but is actually a third divine person. Tritheism is similar to Trinitarianism, in that they both teach that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit/Ghost are three distinct divine persons, except that Trinitarianism states that the three distinct persons are One God, and Tritheism states the three divine persons are three Gods. Ditheism is two Gods working against one another's purpose: God versus the popular Satan. Dualism is the day verses the night; a circle of opposites, that is actually working together." Source and further information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binitarianism
  • Those who believe in the trinity have classed the holy spirit as a third party equal to God. Yet in the Bible, the holy spirit is "granted" to people by God, Also, when Jesus was baptised, the holy spirit came down on him like a dove...It also came down on the 120 in the upper room...those who had become disciples, apart from the apostles, during Jesus' time as a man. The trinity depends on there being three equal 'identities' Yet Jesus spoke ONLY of his Father... If Jesus was equal, why would he say this... (John 5:19) Therefore, in answer, Jesus went on to say to them: “Most truly I say to YOU, The Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he beholds the Father doing. For whatever things that One does, these things the Son also does in like manner. The initiative is coming from the father, so it is not possible that the son is equal.. Other scriptures indicating Jesus' initiative comes from a greater one are at John 5;30....7;28...8;28,42...10.18 There is no equality so there can be no trinity.
  • trinitarism sees as 3 Separate beings but of one accord..i believe in 3 separate personality's of ONE, God...God is God, Holy Spirit is God, God was Jesus in flesh... blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is the unforgiveable sin ..and for me it is the DENIAL of who and what the Holy Spirit is, God and HIS POWER...which can and does all that we see as Impossible...but with HIM, ALL things are possible....God was never alone..HE taught Old and New..HE is the only ONE, GOD & REDEEMER...HE and only HE could send HIS HELP & COMFORTER, the Holy Spirit....there is not a duo for me...the Father ,Son and Holy Spirit are ONE.... hope this may help..
  • There still is the possibility that the Farther is God, the son is our ideal state as humans filled with God's spirit, and the holy spirit being God's spirit isn't separate from him. I don't count myself as two my body and my spirit. In this case, God would be one and Jesus would have been our example.

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