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by GeneralPatton on July 29th, 2006

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Did Jesus drink wine that did contain alcohol?

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  • by AntigoneRising on September 21st, 2006

    AntigoneRising

    Yes. The alcohol in the wine meant it was safer than water when in a city. (Alcohol kills bacteria.)

    As a Jew, it is inconcievable that Jesus never participated in a Passover Seder, which involves drinking several (4) glasses of wine while reciting many things, including the story of the passover. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passover_Seder


    "For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine, and you say, 'He has a demon.' The Son of Man came eating and drinking,and you say, 'Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and "sinners."'" (Luke 7:33-34)


    From http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/chrdrink.html:
    "A survey of the many reference materials available brings out many important points, as does the Bible itself. First of all, every source this author could locate (a representative collection of which is listed at the end of the article) agreed that the terms for "wine" in the original languages in most cases make obvious reference to fermented, and therefore alcoholic, grape juice."

    "1 Now on the third day there was a wedding at Cana in Galilee.89 Jesus’ mother was there,90 2 and both Jesus and his disciples were also invited to the wedding. 3 When the wine ran out, Jesus’ mother said to him, “They have no wine left.” 4 Jesus replied, “Woman, why are you saying this to me? My time has not yet come.” 5 His mother told the servants, “Whatever he tells you, do it.”

    More on wine in Jewish life: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosher_wine#Role_of_wine_in_Jewish_holidays_and_rituals

    "Almost all Jewish holidays, especially the Passover Seder where all present drink four cups of wine, on Purim for the festive meal, and on the Shabbat require obligatory blessings over filled cups of kosher wine that are then drunk. At Jewish marriages, circumcisions, and at Redemption of First-born ceremonies, the obligatory blessing of Borei Pri HaGafen ("Blessed are you O Lord, Who created the fruit of the vine") is almost always recited over kosher wine (or grape juice.)"

    and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine#Religious_uses

    "Wine is also a very integral part of Jewish laws and traditions. The Kiddush, a blessing prior to eating on the Sabbath and other holidays, is required to be said over wine. On Pesach (Passover) during the seder it is also required to drink four cups of wine.[12] In American Jewish practice it is common to use a kosher wine made from Concord grapes, though the wine produced is not popular outside Jewish liturgical circles; it has become increasingly common to use higher-quality kosher wines (often grown and made in Israel) at the Passover table."

    I have heard arguments that there is no specific mention of Him consuming wine. However, if you look at the Jewish holidays (especially the Passover Seder), the conclusion is inescapable. I've heard the argument that He made wine but didn't consume it Himself - presumably because consuming it was bad/sinful. If consuming alcohol was considered bad/sinful, they why on Earth would he have made it to begin with?

    Alcohol in the Roman Empire http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine#Roman_Empire:

    "The Roman Empire had an immense impact on the development of viticulture and oenology. Wine was an integral part of the Roman diet and wine making became a precise business.

    As the Roman Empire expanded, wine production in the provinces grew to the point the provinces were competing with Roman wines. Virtually all of the major wine producing regions of Western Europe today were established by the Romans.

    Wine making technology improved considerably during the time of the Roman Empire. Many grape varieties and cultivation were known. Barrels were developed for storing and shipping wine. Bottles were used for the first time. And the early developments of an appellation system formed as certain regions gained reputations for fine wine.

    Once the Roman Empire fell around 500 CE, Europe went into a period known as the Dark Ages. This was a period of invasions and social turmoil. The only stable social structure was the Catholic Church. Through the Church, the grape growing and wine making technology was preserved during this period."


    You have to deliberately do something to grape juice in order to keep it from fermenting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine#Religious_uses :

    "[Wine] was used in nearly all Protestant groups until Welch's created commercial grape juice in 1869 by applying pasteurization to grapes to stop the natural fermentation process."



    Modern ideas about alcohol and sin are not applicable to the Middle East under the Roman Empire.

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  • by Mr. McClister on July 29th, 2006

    Mr. McClister

    Everyone back then did...Wine is fermented alchol and therefore it is clean..water back then was not filtered, it was very dirty and unhealthy...that is the reason the majority of people drank wine or an alcohol of some kind.



    Edit: whoever gave me a bad rating....you are a moron...

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  • by robinl on July 29th, 2006

    robinl

    It is not wine without alcohol. Then it is grape juice.

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  • by Jenniferocious on August 1st, 2006

    Jenniferocious

    He sure did. If for nothing else, he drank wine at the last supper. The last supper was a passover seder, and wine (with alcohol) is a traditional part of the observation of this holiday. Four times during the seder, you are directed to drink a glass of wine (with alcohol).

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    Taken from: http://www.botany.hawaii.edu/faculty/wong/BOT135/Lect14.htm

    "Once the juice is in the fermentation tank, preferred strains of yeast are often added, but are not needed. The skin of the grapes already have adequate yeasts on them that this step could be omitted."

    Yes, yeast is necessary for wine...but it is not necessary to add your own yeast, there is wild yeast that will ferment the wine. I'm sure that hundreds and thousands of years ago, they didn't just go grab a handful of yeast and throw it into the vat with the wine.

    No, you cannot take a bottle of pasteurized grape juice and leave it to ferment, it would just go bad. The natural yeast that can be used to make wine come off of the grapes themselves.

    In fact, it wasn't until 1857 that Louis Pasteur figured out that fermentation was caused by little organisms called yeasts.

    For more information about naturally occuring "wild" yeasts and wine making, see: http://winemaking.jackkeller.net/yeast.asp , http://www.honeycreek.us/wildyeast.html , http://winemakermag.com/feature/529.html , http://www.winepros.org/wine101/history.htm .

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  • by Roger Kovaciny on July 29th, 2006

    Roger Kovaciny

    Did Jesus drink wine that contained alcohol? Almost certainly yes.

    Did Jesus drink TOO MUCH wine that contained alcohol? Certainly no.

    About five small glasses a week (not all at once!) are good for your health; that's not an abuse. But after many years of study our government published their conclusion that any daily dose above three ounces of vodka--two and a third cans of beer--is slow poison.

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  • by Firebrand on March 26th, 2008

    Firebrand

    Yes he did. Wine contains alcohol.

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  • by Tallyman on March 26th, 2008

    Tallyman

    Yes, some people have tried to tell me that wine in the ancient times was like grape juice.

    I don't believe it. How come the Bible warns against drunkeness, then?

    Also, the time Noah was completely drunk and his kids discoved him show that they had actual wine back then.

    I don't think it's a sin to drink. Wine is all through the Bible. Getting drunk, maybe. I don't belive that Jesus ever got drunk though.

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  • by Brian I on March 26th, 2008

    Brian I

    He'd have had a job on to drink wine without alcohol.

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  • by Ec-nal Licensed Bootie Inspector on March 26th, 2008

    Ec-nal Licensed Bootie Inspector

    Yes.

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  • by thatsJustme on March 26th, 2008

    thatsJustme

    wine was used for medicinal purposes..to feel better, etc. ...excess is wrong as it is today....but Noah over did it from the wine in his vineyard once..Genesis9:20-25
    it was not bad to drink wine (alcohol or no alcohol) it was bad to over indulge...it has a tendancy to make us do FOOLISH things....need to keep a sober mind at all times...

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  • by larrymcjon on July 29th, 2006

    larrymcjon

    If you go according to the Bible and take it in a literal context, and assuming there are no contradictions, NO -- Jesus did not drink wine containing alcohol.

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  • by miRi hates social norms and regulations on March 26th, 2008

    miRi hates social norms and regulations

    i didn't know there was a wine that didn't contain alchohol honestly.

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  • by kamal jamal on October 11th, 2006

    kamal jamal

    for those that they belive that Jesus is god ..how it is possible that god drink something which is harmful for health..for those that believe that Jesus is son of god how is possible for a god that is allows his son to be effected or harmed by wine ...so it is totally baseless that he has drank wine .. he is the messanger of god and he can not do anything of his god order

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  • by GeneralPatton on July 29th, 2006

    GeneralPatton

    Jesus did not drink wine that contained alcohol.
    *Evidence: When Jesus and the diciples ate at the last supper, they were to eat and drink what did not have leven(yeast). The only way to make wine that contains alcohol is to add yeast. Jesus did and does not contridict himself, if the rules are no leven, then that means no leven. Therefore the wine was not fermented.
    More evidence is, the Scribes and Pharises were always looking for ways to prove Jesus is not Jesus and is not perfect; if Jesus did drink wine, surely they would have accused him of bieng a drunk, and a wine bibber.
    Some people mention the parable of the old wine in a new bottle. That is wrong also, evidence:
    First of all, the bottles they used then were not made of glass but of animal skin. Second when grapes are smashed the juice causes bubbles. Third, when the juice was poured into a new bottle, the bubbles expanded the bottle. After a bottle was used once, it could no longer be used for new wine. If new wine was poured into an old bottle, it would expand it too much and cause it to burst.
    Jesus' wine was not alcoholic.

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  • by vaidasultinfus on July 29th, 2006

    vaidasultinfus

    That is a difficult question. Be careful what answers you take into thought because many people don't understand the history of the Bible. Kindof like how people don't believe in speaking in tongues, but the evidence is the the book of corinthians and many other places and the apostle was filled too. So the best advice i can give you is study it. The bible doesn't contradict itself, just because we aren't smart enough to understand things at times doesn't mean God contradicts himself. You can even ask your pastor. He went to school and studied regarding the history version of things too. He might have a good answer for you. good luck.

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  • by Countess Crapula on March 6th, 2009

    Countess Crapula

    Oh my god, here we go again. But I will be nice. Wine is alcoholic by nature. Do you really, REALLY think they were able to extract the alcohol from wine in the year 0 AD, or do you think old JC went to the bodega and bought some O'Douls non-alcholic beer? Come onnnnnn, that alcohol is bad crap was invented by religion centuries later.

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  • by Banana Breath plays the piano on March 6th, 2009

    Banana Breath plays the piano

    Yes, it was part of his religion and part of his training as a rabbi.

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  • by Stormarm on March 6th, 2009

    Stormarm

    Yes. What's more, the story of the Marriage at Cana (the water to wine one) in the Greek actually reads:

    "And when the steward/toastmaster tasted the water which had become wine, and did not know where it came from ... he called the bridegroom and said to him, 'Every man serves the STRONG wine first, and once his guests are DRUNK, he starts serving the WEAK stuff, but you've kept the kickass stuff for last!"

    No, the Greek doesn't literally say "kickass" - but the Greek word used is a colloquialism with the same meaning if not the exact same imagery.

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  • by Elaine on September 20th, 2008

    Elaine

    The wine that most people drank back then was very weak.

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  • by mrbunnylamakins on October 16th, 2009

    mrbunnylamakins

    Can any one show me a Direct passage that said He did?


    Luke 1:14-15 (New King James Version)
    14 And you will have joy and gladness, and many will rejoice at his birth. 15 For he will be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink. He will also be filled with the Holy Spirit, even from his mother’s womb.

    Luke 7:33-34 (New King James Version)
    33 For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine, and you say, ‘He has a demon.’ 34 The Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Look, a glutton and a winebibber, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’

    it is not always true that they drunk wine cause city water was dirty. there are many springs mentioned in the bible many still exist today in Israel.

    plus

    John 4:6-7 (New King James Version)
    6 Now Jacob’s well was there. Jesus therefore, being wearied from His journey, sat thus by the well. It was about the sixth hour.
    7 A woman of Samaria came to draw water. Jesus said to her, “Give Me a drink.”


    The Bible does warn about to stay away from being drunk it says not to be a Drunkard. Noah got drunk ..

    Genesis 9:20-21 (New King James Version)
    20 And Noah began to be a farmer, and he planted a vineyard. 21 Then he drank of the wine and was drunk, and became uncovered in his tent

    Plus many other passages where God promised the people New wine and vineyards and vats overflow.

    Deuteronomy 14:26 (New King James Version)
    26 And you shall spend that money for whatever your heart desires: for oxen or sheep, for wine or similar drink, for whatever your heart desires; you shall eat there before the LORD your God, and you shall rejoice, you and your household.

    If being drunk is wrong ...why did God tell people to go sell they tithe get money the Buy Strong Drink/ wine

    King James version says strong drink as NKJ says Similar

    Getting drunk is not sin many people were "Glad in the heart" many people in the bible did but being a constant drunk aka drunkard is. If that was the case all at the marriage of Cana was and Jesus didn't rebuke them. If they were drunk off the Cheap wine why did Jesus go to make more? ...

    John 2:10 (New King James Version)
    10 And he said to him, “Every man at the beginning sets out the good wine, and when the guests have well drunk, then the inferior. You have kept the good wine until now!”

    Grape juice is turned into alcohol by the process of "fermentation." Grapes on the vine are covered with yeast, mold and bacteria. This is why some grapes have a dust white coating on the outside of skin.

    Just Natural wine no yeast can produce wine with 9-15% alcohol content.

    Alcohol Content - A natural result of fermentation, when the grape skins are broken by "crushing" and the yeast from the outside of the grape comes into contact with and metabolizes the sugar from inside the grape and transforms it into alcohol, carbon dioxide and heat. Content by volume ranges between 9% and 15% for table wines, with most falling between 11% and 13%. An important measure in determining the body of a wine.

    Beer averages around 5 %

    Numbers 6:3
    he shall separate himself from wine and similar drink; he shall drink neither vinegar made from wine nor vinegar made from similar drink; neither shall he drink any grape juice, nor eat fresh grapes or raisins.

    Many people are just Ignorant to say the wine they drunk back during Jesus's day was "Grape juice" apparently never read the bible fully and pick and choose what they want to believe..

    They new the difference way before in Old Testament too.

    Why they say don't stick new wine in old skins cause the fermentation process in new wine still produces gas which causes the wineskin to burst

    But we are warned of the effects of alcohol and what it can do to people in bible but no where in the bible does it say it is sin to get drunk.

    Just cause you think drinking is bad does not give you the right to tell others it is wrong.


    Proverbs 23:30-32 (New King James Version)
    30 Those who linger long at the wine,
    Those who go in search of mixed wine.
    31 Do not look on the wine when it is red,
    When it sparkles in the cup,
    When it swirls around smoothly;
    32 At the last it bites like a serpent,
    And stings like a viper.

    To say wine back then was a lot weaker than today is ignorance too. Read your bibles, do your homework and stop passing around what you heard from the next person as gospel truth. Even if wine was 1/2 as strong
    of 9-15% lets take 9%, 1/2 of that is 4.5% is that of most beers and you know too many get drunk on beer and do many stupid things. But I am not going to go around telling someone who is having pizza and drinking a beer that they are sinning and going to hell.

    Not to mention Usually when they mention in the bible Drunkard/winebibber they mention Glutton... this would be a sin many in churches break. Let he who is free of sin cast the first stone. First take the plank out of your eye so you can see the speck in your brothers eye. The way measure others you will be measured too.

    Study to show self approved "Rightfully dividing the word" and be ready to give hope for the faith that is in you.

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  • by qwerty on March 6th, 2009

    qwerty

    wine by definition contains alcohol

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  • by Lori K still ignores stalkers and trolls on March 6th, 2009

    Lori K still ignores stalkers and trolls

    all wine contains alcohol. Yes, Jesus surely did. There is nothing wrong with drinking wine.

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  • by bolwerk on March 6th, 2009

    bolwerk

    Yes. If he drank wine, he drank wine that contains alcohol. Wine contains alcohol. Jesus wasn't a member of MADD or the AA.

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  • by RC loves ice cream on February 24th, 2009

    RC loves ice cream

    Yes of course he did. However I don't agree with some who said that the reason they drank wine is because it's cleaner. They drank it mainly because they liked it, or because it forms part of several Jewish traditions.

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  • by Nomzie on February 24th, 2009

    Nomzie

    yes

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  • by Tenaciouscj on September 24th, 2008

    Tenaciouscj

    Yes, I should think so. I'm sure he would have drunk wine at social events but not so much as to get more than pleasantly mellow.

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  • by itinary on October 28th, 2009

    itinary

    End of the day who said Alcohol is bad and drinking it is sin?

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  • by anonimos on May 2nd, 2011

    anonimos

    What are you talking about!?
    Drink 300 grams (a glass) of pure grape juice....and u will see paradise for sure ;)

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  • by anonimos on May 2nd, 2011

    anonimos

    well if the scriptures are right quotting His words in Luke " ...I will not again drink from the fruit of the wine till the day i drink from the new. in the kingdom of God"

    And the fruit of the wine ...is not ment to be drunk as a juice
    If you drink 300grams pure grape juice (a glass).. not only it will make u dizy as a bottle o whiskey but it will make u sick for a week

    BTW grape juice is not what you buy in a supermarket ....but its the stuff that comes out of the grape when u sqeeze it
    Any whine maker can tell you this

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  • by mbater2 on May 12th, 2012

    mbater2

    NO. Only a fool will think he drank an alcoholic drink. Go and look at the original hebrew and greek words used for wine, and apply it to the context where wine is used in the Bible and you will be enlightened.

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  • by answerbag on February 7th, 2011

    answerbag

    http://willfults.com/christian-alcohol/

    Is a great article covering from the Bible the topic of alcohol and the Christian. Also covers whether Jesus drank alcoholic wine or not.

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  • by livolivia on February 14th, 2010

    livolivia

    what I was always taught, was that no, it didn't. wine back then is much different then what it is now. then it was just grape juice.

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  • by jlz on January 18th, 2010

    jlz

    Yes i think so. if Jesus drank wine at the passover, the only argument is to know if it is alcoholic. the grapes start fermenting when they enter the wineskin. wine is alcoholic and it couldnt be helped back then. id think that the case is closed, you cant argue that point. unless you can prove that somehow the jews knew how to make wine without alcohol, and besides wine without alcohol is grape juice anyhow.

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  • by joewy1 on February 14th, 2010

    joewy1

    I have ofter wondered this myself. Studying the question, did the wine contain alcohol? Leads me to believe it did. Also, I think Luke 7: 33-35 makes it pretty clear that Jesus did drink wine that contained alcohol. He pretty much say's himself that he did. So that teaches me that drinking it is not a sin considering Jesus was perfect and without sin. But the bible also speaks against drunkenness in many places. What I have read and understood in the bible concerning this is that drinking alcohol is not necessarily a sin in itself, but being drunk is. Drinking too much is knowingly causing harm to your body, being gluttonous and opening yourself up to bad judgement. Also drinking if you know you should not, whether you have health problems that don't allow it or if you are an alcoholic, is also a sin in my opinion because again, you are knowingly causing harm to yourself.

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  • by mbater2 on May 12th, 2012

    mbater2

    Only an idiot will think Jesus drank alcoholic drink to justify his/her own drunken habit. Look at the original words use in hebrew and greek and apply it in the context where it was used, and you will be enlightened.

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  • by Allen_N2926 on May 12th, 2012

    Allen_N2926

    between 15 or 30 % of alcohol present in wine , so i think so

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  • by Moongrim on March 12th, 2009

    Moongrim

    Yes.

    If it wasn't alcoholic, then it wouldn't be referred to as wine.

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  • by Theby on March 12th, 2009

    Theby

    If having no human father is the reason for calling Jesus the son of God, then what about Adam? According to the Bible he too was the son of God. The Qur'an says in clear terms, *{Verily, the similitude of Jesus with God is as the similitude of Adam; He created him out of dust then said He unto him BE, and he became.}* (Aal `Imran 3:59). This means that if Jesus was a son of God, then Adam deserved the title of the Son of God more. Who was Jesus if not the literal son of God?
    According to the Bible in Matthew 21:11 "And the multitude said, This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee." This was Jesus. He was a prophet of God.

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  • by dreeves1976 on January 5th, 2010

    dreeves1976

    the wine jesus made was more like grape juice when the host of the wedding saidu saved the good wine he meant the quality go look it up... the bible uses several different words for wine and i dont think jc was getting his buzz on i spent years arguibg this point with a good friend and finally through trying to prove my point i was disproved.... the wine he drank was just good grape juice

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  • by Theby on March 12th, 2009

    Theby

    xxxx

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  • by thatsJustme on March 6th, 2009

    thatsJustme

    probably, there was "fermented" and "fruit of the vine"...the "fermented" was also used as medicine at times, like Timothy for stomach alements...and wine was said to "make a merry heart,esp. to older"..just should not drink to get too "merry"...or accidentally like Noah did testing his vineyard...I would imagine the water to wine,1st miracle, at the wedding was fermented and they all drank, Jesus and HIS mother, just not "too much"...

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  • by Suezee77 on May 12th, 2012

    Suezee77

    Yes, and then he said this shit sucks, so he invented Tequilla!

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  • by larrymcjon on March 8th, 2009

    larrymcjon

    http://www.dailysquib.co.uk/?c=120&a=1128

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  • by Brian I on October 28th, 2009

    Brian I

    Is there any other type?

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