by doodlebug on May 30th, 2004

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Do Mormons believe that Satan is the brother of Jesus?

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  • by Anonymous on June 3rd, 2004

    Anonymous

      Sometimes, the very best lie of all is a literal truth, told out of context.  This is a perfect example.

      What we really believe is this:

      All of us are, in a very real, literal sense, the children of our Heavenly Father.  So in this sense, all of us are brothers and sisters.  Jesus is, in this sense, our eldest brother.

      His rebellion and the consequences thereof notwithstanding, Satan is also a child of our same Heavenly Father, and so he is our brother as well.

      When you hear the claim made that we believe that Satan is Jesus' brother, this claim is nearly always made without any reference to the fact that according to our beliefs, all of us—including Jesus and also including Satan—are all brothers and sisters.  Though the statement is literally true, its purpose is to deceive the reader/listener into thinking that we believe that Satan shares some kind of kinship with Jesus that the rest of us do not, which puts him above us, and makes him an equal or near-equal to Jesus.  Of course, we do not believe any such thing.  According to our beliefs, Satan is and will forever be—as a consequence of his rebellion—below us and inferior to us.

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  • by Yarnlady is happy every day on December 23rd, 2007

    Yarnlady is happy every day

    Only in the sense that all souls are children of God, including the angels. There is some evidence of it in the Bible (Job 1:6; Job 38; Isaiah 14:12)

    In other words, all of us are thought to be children of God, and therefore brothers and sisters.

    So, yes, but not in the same way people who both share the same father and mother, but sharing their heavenly Father.

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  • by tteeples on December 24th, 2007

    tteeples

    Posting this question in the Mormon section indicates to me that the question is trying to gain an answer of whether Mormons believe that Satan is the brother of Jesus. It is best to quote the actual response by the LDS Church rather than to listen to what some who are not members of the Church would try to convince you that we believe.

    Quoted from: http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/commentary/answering-media-questions-about-jesus-and-satan

    "Like other Christians, we believe Jesus is the divine Son of God. Satan is a fallen angel.

    As the Apostle Paul wrote, God is the Father of all. That means that all beings were created by God and are His spirit children. Christ, however, was the only begotten in the flesh, and we worship Him as the Son of God and the Savior of mankind."

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  • by alreadydead on December 24th, 2007

    alreadydead

    the term Christians is very vague. there are many different christians, churches and denominations. i believe there is a kind of them they do believe satan is brother of jesus.

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  • by BabyRottweiler on December 30th, 2007

    BabyRottweiler

    In the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, everyone is a spirit-child of God... Therefore, Jesus is our brother... This means, that yes, Satan is one of our brothers as well... Just because the "child" turned from the parent does not break every single relationship... There is an entire family within the Plan of Salvation... Family is central to the Church...

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  • by Rodzilla on December 23rd, 2007

    Rodzilla

    No. I am a Roman Catholic, and we believe that Satan used to be an angel. He was cast out of Heaven.

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  • by Capt.Lizzie_pirate king_Swann on December 23rd, 2007

    Capt.Lizzie_pirate king_Swann

    No.. not that I've heard or read.

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  • by 4freedom on May 1st, 2006

    4freedom

    It is still a fact no matter how you try to cover this teaching, Mormons are taught that Jesus and Satan are brothers. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME CREATION! Jesus is God and Human, Satan is Fallen Angel. God did not create other creations in His image. Only man! I am not brother to any other creation, are you?

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  • by travisb on March 17th, 2008

    travisb

    Yes there is.
    Isaiah 14:12 "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!"
    we learn in Isaiah that Lucifer is a son of someones.
    So whose son is he???

    Eph. 4: 6 One God and a Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

    In Ephesians we learn that god is the father of all.
    so whether it sounds blasphemous or not he is the father of Lucifer. And we know the Jesus is the Son of God therefore since jesus and Lucifer are sons of god they are brothers.

    If you disagree with this then please tell me who created Lucifer.

    God created Hitler and Many other evil children. He gives us all free will to behave how we wish.

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  • by wookieblu on December 24th, 2007

    wookieblu

    no he was a angel that thought he was equal to god.so was cast out with his gang.

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  • by Anonymous on December 24th, 2007

    Anonymous

    It is misleading to state that Mormons believe Satan and Jesus are brothers without further explanation. Mormons believe that God the Father created all things, so He created both Jesus (God the Son), Lucifer (Satan), and all mankind. Jesus and Lucifer are "brothers" in the sense that God the Father created both of them, in the same sense that Hitler, Mother Teresa, Albert Einstein, and I are all "brothers." It doesn't imply any special affinity or friendship between Jesus and Lucifer. Obviously, they are on opposite sides of the whole good/evil divide.

    The Mormon Church itself has clarified this issue: "Like other Christians, we believe Jesus is the divine Son of God. Satan is a fallen angel. As the Apostle Paul wrote, God is the Father of all. That means that all beings were created by God and are His spirit children. Christ, however, was the only begotten in the flesh, and we worship Him as the Son of God and the Savior of mankind."

    To learn more about the Mormons, visit my site at http://www.allaboutmormons.com

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  • by C-C. on December 23rd, 2007

    C-C.

    Not me or any others I know.

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  • by Tamilze on December 23rd, 2007

    Tamilze

    That'd be a new one on me...

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  • by Joseph Smith was a fraud and Eisegete on October 31st, 2008

    Joseph Smith was a fraud  and Eisegete

    James E. Talmage in his book, "Jesus the Christ," on Pages 132 & 133, discusses the council that is supposed to have taken place concerning "Free Agency" and the attack on it by Lucifer. He states that Christ may not have remembered the part He had taken in the great council of the "Gods" where the Firstborn Son's plan was chosen and Lucifer, the rebellious and rejected son's plan was refused.

    Joseph Fielding Smith's Gospel Doctrine, on Page 371 states that;
    "The devil knows the Father much better than we. Lucifer, the son of the morning, knows Jesus Christ, the Son of God, much better than we; but in him it is not and will not redound to eternal life; for knowing, he yet rebels; knowing, he is yet disobedient; he will not receive the truth; he will not abide in the truth; hence he is perdition, and there is no salvation for him."

    Spencer W. Kimball, Conference Report, April 1964, Pg.95
    "There is another power in this world forceful and vicious. In the wilderness of Judaea, on the temple's pinnacles and on the high mountain, a momentous contest took place between two brothers, Jehovah and Lucifer, sons of Elohim."

    Bruce R. McConkie, in his definitive work, Mormon Doctrine, on page 744, says;
    "This name-title of Satan (Son of the Morning), indicates he was one of the early born spirit children of the Father. Always used in association with the name Lucifer, son of the morning also apparently signifies son of light or son of prominence, meaning that Satan held a position of power and authority in pre-existence. (D. & C. 76:25-27; Isa. 14:12-20.)"

    Excerpts from:

    http://www.bible-truth.org/jesusbro.htm

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  • by Dmitri on October 30th, 2008

    Dmitri

    I frankly don't know. Mormons are Christians, and they shouldn't for that is not a Biblical teaching, and if the Book of Mormon contradicts the Bible, it is truly as valuable as tinder in winter.

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  • by I am the God of Hellfire on October 29th, 2008

    I am the God of Hellfire

    Why don't you folks study the origins of your religions? Is it because you are all young and just indoctrinated by your parents, your church, or you just are easily led?

    It is like sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling la la la la la I can't hear you!

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  • by verycheeky on January 2nd, 2008

    verycheeky

    Joseph Smith taught that Jesus and satan are brothers and they both had two plans for the earth. God chose Jesus's plan and rejected satans plan and satan got very very angry.
    when mormons die the man and wife go to other planets and have celestial sex and start a new colony ( I am not making this up! LOL )

    The bible says that Jesus is the ONLY begotten son.
    ONLY does not mean another. and the bible over and over makes it clear Jesus is LORD, JESUS IS GOD.

    when the cult members ( mormonism is a cult, threfore a mormon is a cult member ) comes to your door, ask them one thing, who is Jesus?

    1Jn 4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

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  • by Weird Science on December 27th, 2007

    Weird Science

    Consistent with Mormon doctrine, then, Christ and Satan are spirit brothers. But the Bible teaches that Christ is God (Isaiah 7:14; 9:6; John 1:1), that He has always been God (Psalm 90:2), and that He always will be God (Hebrews 13:8). Born into mortality some 2,000 years ago, Jesus is "God... manifest in the flesh" (1 Timothy 3:16). He is far grander and holier than "our Elder Brother," as Mormons dub Him. Jesus and Satan aren't spirit brothers, and true Christians don't believe such blasphemy.

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  • by 4freedom on April 29th, 2006

    4freedom

    The problem is that Satan was an angel, a completely different creation than a human or man. The LDS premis is like saying that a turtle is my brother. Mormons are my brothers and sisters because they are humans.

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  • Yes.

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  • by John Cox will be back April 6th 2013 on April 5th, 2012

    John Cox will be back April 6th 2013

    Yes we do believe that Satan and Jesus are both spirit children of the same Heavenly Father.

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  • by Bridget_D8547 on June 3rd, 2011

    Bridget_D8547

    No. Lucifer was one of the Lord's angels, and he is a fallen angel at that. Mormons need to get this drilled into their heads: Jesus Christ is and always has been Almighty God. Lucifer rebelled against him. Therefore, Lucifer, having failed his first estate, has no right to be called a brother of the Lord in any sense of the word, since he wasn't even born on earth as a son of Adam.

    Lucifer had no right to open his filthy mouth in the councils of heaven. He was one of the lesser angels ... less in integrity, less in honesty, less in trustworthiness ... and he could not take part in the councils of heaven.

    Now, you might call Abraham a brother of Christ, since the Lord called him his friend. But the same could not be said about Lucifer. I would go so far as to say that Lucifer, far from being a brother of Christ, is the worst example of an angel that you could ever hold up. He is the very nadir of ingratitude and disrespect, and to follow his example by elevating him and denigrating the Lord our God Jesus Christ is to lump your lot in with his.

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  • by herbert9655 on March 29th, 2011

    herbert9655

    Mormons still believe that Jesus and Lucifer are brothers. Mormonism is a dangereous cult, and Mormons believe in a false Jesus, and not the real Jesus Christ of the bible, and also, Mormonism is another gospel. Read in the NewTestament book of Galatians in chapter 1 verses 8 and 9 about anybody preaching any other gospel, and what will happen to them. Mormonism is another gospel.

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  • by Doc on April 16th, 2012

    Doc

    Satan is the spirit brother of Michael.
    Jesus is God and uncreated.

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  • by I am the God of Hellfire on October 30th, 2008

    I am the God of Hellfire

    It is misleading to bring Lucifer aka Satan into the picture:
    The first problem is that Lucifer is a Latin name. So how did it find its way into a Hebrew manuscript, written before there was a Roman language? To find the answer, a consulted scholar at the library of the Hebrew Union College in Cincinnati was asked "What Hebrew name was Satan given in this chapter of Isaiah, which describes the angel who fell to become the ruler of hell?


    The answer was a surprise. In the original Hebrew text, the fourteenth chapter of Isaiah is not about a fallen angel, but about a fallen Babylonian king, who during his lifetime had persecuted the children of Israel. It contains no mention of Satan, either by name or reference. The Hebrew scholar could only speculate that some early Christian scribes, writing in the Latin tongue used by the Church, had decided for themselves that they wanted the story to be about a fallen angel, a creature not even mentioned in the original Hebrew text, and to whom they gave the name "Lucifer."

    Why Lucifer? In Roman astronomy, Lucifer was the name given to the morning star (the star we now know by another Roman name, Venus). The morning star appears in the heavens just before dawn, heralding the rising sun. The name derives from the Latin term lucem ferre, bringer, or bearer, of light." In the Hebrew text the expression used to describe the Babylonian king before his death is Helal, son of Shahar, which can best be translated as "Day star, son of the Dawn." The name evokes the golden glitter of a proud king's dress and court (much as his personal splendor earned for King Louis XIV of France the appellation, "The Sun King").

    The scholars authorized by ... King James I to translate the Bible into current English did NOT use the original Hebrew texts, but used versions translated ... largely by St. Jerome in the fourth century. Jerome had 'mistranslated' the Hebraic metaphor, "Day star, son of the Dawn," as "Lucifer," and over the centuries a metamorphosis took place. Lucifer the morning star became a disobedient angel, cast out of heaven to rule eternally in hell. Theologians, writers, and poets interwove the myth with the doctrine of the Fall, and in Christian tradition Lucifer is now the same as Satan, the Devil, and --- ironically --- the Prince of Darkness.

    So "Lucifer" is nothing more than an ancient Latin name for the morning star, the bringer of light.

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  • by Allen_N2926 on April 16th, 2012

    Allen_N2926

    God made everything only he knows the truth

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  • by TenLostTribes on February 19th, 2010

    TenLostTribes

    The answer may sound kind of odd but yes. Before we came here we lived with God the Father, God the Father presented a plan for his children--we were all spirits. His plan was that we all come to earth, get a physical body, and learn to make correct choices--which would involve making mistakes. Jesus Christ supported the plan and offered be our Savior. Lucifer wanted to take away our freedom to choose in order to make sure that no one failed to obey. God the Father knew that in order for us to learn, we had to be given freedom to choose. So, Lucifer was cast out and became Satan the Father of lies. You can read 2 Nephi 9:8 and Moses 4:1-4 for more information.

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