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Top Answer out of 10 by Anonymous on Feb 10, 2008 at 4:56 am Permalink
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Answer 2 out of 10 by DiSTurBiA on Jan 18, 2008 at 6:04 pm Permalink
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um thats you dude
Y'know, people... we *Are* pretty pointless here.
Perhaps we could get back to main debate subject?
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Answer 3 out of 10 by JTP on Jan 18, 2008 at 5:32 pm Permalink
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The bottom line is there’s *never* going to be a situation where there is absolutely no other explanation than the so-called “supernatural.” Even “hard science’s” observations can’t produce a scenario with only one possible explanation; we just use the scientific method to determine what seems to be a consistent outcome and then take it on faith that we’ve reached the right conclusion. Often we have; sometimes we haven’t, and it’s left to future generations to fix our misconceptions. But we do our best.
Do I know everything about God? Of course not. But I know a lot, and I’m trying to share it with you. It all comes back to you, though: unless *you* do the experiment, *you’ll* never know. And that’s what this mortal experience is all about. HTH!
Sorry… that last post was meant to be the end of my previous train of though. I had to step away and yours hadn’t shown up here yet. Reading now. :-)
Regarding your last few posts, MRA, I don’t see anything I disagree with. That’s kind of what I was saying earlier: there is no way to prove to the unbeliever that God is involved in x, y, or z; nor is there any way to prove to the believer that He wasn’t. We see—or don’t see—what we want to. That’s why, throughout this entire discussion, my goal has not been to convince you I’m right: even if I managed to do so, it wouldn’t you any good.
What I am saying, MRA, is that you—like everyone else on this planet—need to find out for yourself. To that end, I’m trying to give you the tools you need to do so. Your local missionaries should be amply equipped to help you, since A) they currently carry the specific ordination to do so; and B) they would actually be in your presence and could thus point out when the Holy Ghost is testifying therein. (It really is that obvious.) Like I said, my friend, it‘s all on you. You’ve got my testimony, you’ve got the web site where you can request more information. I’m certainly happy to continue our discussion, if you like, but the ball is firmly in your court. My only exhortation is that you can’t win if you don’t pick it up and play. :-) Answer 4 out of 10 by bradleybell goes to school on Feb 10, 2008 at 9:12 am Permalink
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Of course, for your logic to work, you'd also need a definition of "Perfect".
“Sin” is any decision whose consequences are incompatible with our ultimate potential as children of God.
Answer 5 out of 10 by LarryH54 on Aug 22, 2008 at 9:42 am Permalink
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I would argue that free will is an Eternal concept. God has free will, too; He just uses it appropriately 100% of the time, which is part of what makes Him God.
And I would argue that all concepts were created by God, similar to the laws and constants of the universe. But as we are made in His Image, there is no reason to suppose that He does NOT have free will.
Interesting take. I guess it’s a question of whether God actually created the laws that govern the universe or just utilized his infinite understanding of natural law to create said universe. Doubt that‘s one we’ll ever answer in this life, though.
Thanks for your feedback! :-) Answer 6 out of 10 by Twhupfold on Feb 10, 2008 at 5:00 am Permalink
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i agree god created humans and their free will god created everything including satan so he in turn is the reason for the evil
No, God created neither good nor evil; they just are. Everything has its opposite. That’s Christianity—and science—101.
Furthermore, God can’t be held responsible for Lucifer using his agency in an unfortunate way. If He had tried to suppress Lucifer’s ability to choose, He would have ceased to be God and the whole Plan would have fallen apart.
whatever his plan was it has already fallen apart
Answer 7 out of 10 by MRABSOLUTE on Oct 26, 2009 at 5:55 am Permalink
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Answer 8 out of 10 by iwnit on Sep 15, 2008 at 2:21 pm Permalink
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Answer 9 out of 10 by the Otter has a technicolor dream COAT on Sep 15, 2008 at 11:51 am Permalink
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Answer 10 out of 10 by Pete Parker on Aug 22, 2008 at 9:48 am Permalink
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The question is, is that a more basic root than their ability to make distinctions and act on them at all?
My perception is society as a whole attempts to corral good and bad, and weed out evil but evil seems to dominate behavior patterns in society everywhere it springs up. Thus more restrictions are enacted to those desiring to exercise free will absent of evil. However, free will and "evil" free will seem synonymous but each have different results and repercussions.
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