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That is fairly feasible. But since I don't know much about it, I can't really have an opinion. I wasn't born when it occured. It depends whether the troops were sent in to kill the Vietnamese civilians or not. In 30 years time, people might be saying the same thing about Iraq.
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why would you consider it a holocaust? i certainly wouldnt, even if some of the actions were unconventional ie use of chemical warfare. it was done by the americans because they were afraid of a north vietnamese invasion of the south which would mean the spread of communism. but i guess would could see any war as a 'holocaust' against humanity if you are so inclined, i generally dont believe wars are very logical, but from a conventional point of view, id still say no
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No. First, you seem to think that ALL of the casualties and atrocities were caused by us Americans. Sure, we dropped a LOT of bombs (you and I have already discussed that; don't reopen that here) and there was My Lai. However there were also NVA "soldiers" doing HORRIFIC things to Laotians, and as for Cambodia.... Pol Pot killed twice as many as the Vietnam Conflict. You may not be willing to admit it but Asians are QUITE capable of atrocities as well. For example - "Isolated atrocities committed by American soldiers produced torrents of outrage from antiwar critics and the news media while Communist atrocities were so common that they received hardly any attention at all. The United States sought to minimize and prevent attacks on civilians while North Vietnam made attacks on civilians a centerpiece of its strategy. Americans who deliberately killed civilians received prison sentences while Communists who did so received commendations. From 1957 to 1973, the National Liberation Front assassinated 36,725 South Vietnamese and abducted another 58,499. The death squads focused on leaders at the village level and on anyone who improved the lives of the peasants such as medical personnel, social workers, and schoolteachers." Second, I have yet to see a neutral source corroborate your claims. By neutral, I mean one that does not call the US imperialists, war criminals, "worse than Hitler" or otherwise indicate a STRONG anti-US bias. Third, a holocaust implies intent to annihilate a particular ethnicity in it's entirety. We merely sought to neutralize military opposition and destroy NVA supply routes. We NEVER target civilians as a general strategy. EVER. You won't ever believe that either though...
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No. That war was not specifically directed at innocent Vietnamese civilians (just the Viet Cong). OTOH, the Holocaust (with capital H), targeted a specific group of people, the Jews.
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Emma what about all your commie counterparts who booby trapped babies because they knew our soldiers couldn't resist helping helpless little kids. When the soldiers would go to pick the kid up boom no more kid or soldier. I am not saying all of the U.S. Troops were saints. Yes there were a few who did horrible things to civilians but you sit and watch all your buddies be blown to bits by booby trapped kids and old ladies and see if you won't know who you can or can't trust to be the good guy. I am not trying to excuse what they did just validating some reasons they may have had for doing it.
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For all who answered this question. I don't know where she is but Emma probably can not access web pages that contain the truth. This is one place she can get it if you will copy and paste the info.
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Ugh...no...
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Nope. Polpot was the bad guy as I remember. "The combined effect of slave labour, malnutrition, poor medical care and executions is estimated to have killed around 2 million Cambodians"...by his hand.
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No, I consider it a hostile invasion by North Veitnam on South Veitnam that due to treaties and the urging of the UN the US became intangled in. It was the North veitnamies who were commiting genocide against the South Veitnames, Laos, and Cambodia which the US tried to stop. If you look at history after we pulled out and Saigon fell that's when most of the blood shed took place.
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No.
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It depends whether people are willing to acknowledge that the term 'Holocaust' can be applied to unintentional deaths (perhaps thoughtless is a better word). It certainly was directed as such.
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Yes. Even if it was not done intentionally. The end result was millions dead. What else can it be called?
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one cannott point the total blame to one nation. it takes more than one country to fight a war. you must understand the times, the world was experiencing the by product of the second world war. out of that conflict you had one country that lost more people than the loser of that war think about that for a minute. russia lost upwards of 28-30 million. from that point on they said never again will we be caught with our pants down, stalin as paranoid as he was went looking for the secret of the atom and he went to any length to have it, and by 1948 he got it, and with that mind set, stalin who fought for every thing that he believed in trusted no one and he created a communist social order that had and iron curtain extend thu asia to central europe with his prize berlin tucked away in east germany, with west berlin surrounded by a red sea of communist paranoia. with this communist flood comming out of the ussr, spread to china made its way to korea starting the first cold war conflict that quikley esculated to a near world conflct having every non communist nation left holding their breath, with the end of hostilities ending with the division of the korea's split into north and south korea respectfully. with the western world scared to the point of war,with the propaganda that was being shoved down the throats of children learning to duck and cover in the event of a nuclear explosion from our scools, to our john wayne here to blow up some evil reds while flying high in korea, to you better watch out for the communists because we will suffer the domino effect in southeast asia starting in limited force, for a long war in vietnam, and that generation believed all of what the government was telling them. and these people were the same ones who nearly, the clesest ever was in cuba when the russians set up those lauch pads for nuclear conflict the fuelling of the vietnam conflict perpetrated a holocaust that is'nt fair because of the above mentioned. the best evidence at the time was that the world was to be communist under the ussr, now the west in recent history prior to the vietnam war seen china go red, north korea go red cuba, now how does that look, the reds advocated no to human rights the state before the individual, the renoucement of god what ever religion, and this scared the hell out of the west. because the vietnam conflict was seen by many as a civil war and the usa was seen as the big old bully thats going to have its way no matter what. to say that the americans perpetrated a holocaust is seen as a bit much, but given the surcumstances like i mentioned it takes two to fight a war and the soviets and china kept it going for as long as they did, and they spent billions and killed millions in the name of communism, the soviets last kick at the can was in afganistan they started their withdral in 1988, and with in a couple of years the old red bear was no more
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No. We did not go in there with the intention of cleansing the world of all North Vietnamese, and making the race prominent in that part of the world. We helped the Southern Vietnamese for goodness sakes. Just because we ed the heck out of North Vietnam and killed a lot of them doesn't mean it was a holocaust.
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No.
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NO.. as a decorated Viet Nam viet who did three tours I am positive that it was not. Also, I never saw any attrocities committed against the VC on the ground. In addition, the money, lives, and programs that the US provided to the Vietnamese people were outstanding. As to innocents being killed, yes, that happens in war but it was not intentional or planned. In fact we were hamstrung most of the time, restricted as to where we could go, where we go bomb, attack, etc. and liberal press dogged our heals every step of the way. It is the drive-by media that perpetuated the myths of attrocities by Americans, that is not reality.
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