ARE THEY DISCREPANCIES?
When encountering difficulties in reading the Bible, critics are all too ready to take a negative view, jumping to conclusions. Those who treasure the Bible as God’s gift to man, however, are positive in searching out the answers. Consider how the harmony of scriptures can be explained.
Who sold Joseph into Egypt? Genesis 37:27 says that Joseph’s brothers sold him. But the next verse states: “Now men, Midianite merchants, went passing by. Hence they [half brothers of Joseph] drew and lifted up Joseph out of the waterpit and then sold Joseph to the Ishmaelites for twenty silver pieces. Eventually these brought Joseph into Egypt.” So, did Midianite merchants take Joseph from the pit and sell him to the Ishmaelites who took him to Egypt? No, even Joseph later confirmed that his own brothers had sold him, saying: “I am Joseph your brother, whom you sold into Egypt.” (Gen. 45:4) So what are we to conclude? Either that the Midianites (who were related to the Ishmaelites) were also called Ishmaelites or that the Midianite merchants were traveling with the Ishmaelite caravan. And Joseph was sold to them by his brothers.
How many Israelites died for having immoral relations with the daughters of Moab and for engaging in the false worship of the Baal of Peor? The apostle Paul stated: “Neither let us practice fornication, as some of them [Israelites in the wilderness] committed fornication, only to fall, twenty-three thousand of them in one day.” (1 Cor. 10:8) However, with reference to the same incident, Numbers 25:9 reported: “And those who died from the scourge amounted to twenty-four thousand.” Possibly the number slain was between 23,000 and 24,000, so that either round figure was satisfactory. On the other hand, the book of Numbers especially mentions the fact that “all the head ones of the people” who had an attachment to the Baal of Peor were killed by judges. (Num. 25:4, 5) There may well have been 1,000 of these “head ones,” making a total of 24,000 when added to the 23,000 mentioned by Paul. The apostle wrote under divine inspiration and, hence, did not err. Also, whereas 23,000 apparently were direct victims of the scourge from God, all 24,000 in general experienced Jehovah’s scourge inasmuch as they all died under God’s decree of judgment.—Deut. 4:3.
When King David improperly registered the people, how many armed men were there in Israel and Judah? According to 2 Samuel 24:9, Israel had 800,000 men and Judah had 500,000. However, according to 1 Chronicles 21:5, there were 1,100,000 men of Israel and 470,000 men of Judah. It is unwise to consider this a scribal error, for the two accounts may have reckoned the numbers from different viewpoints. For instance, possibly members of the standing army and/or their officers were counted, or omitted. Also, different methods of reckoning may have resulted in a variation in listing certain men, that is, as to whether they were under Israel or Judah. First Chronicles 21:6 mentions that Levi and Benjamin are not registered in among them, whereas no such notation is made in Second Samuel, also suggesting, therefore, such a variation.
How much did David pay for the threshing floor where he built an altar to Jehovah as the means of ending the scourge provoked by David’s registration of the people? Apparently Araunah, or Ornan, the owner of the threshing floor, offered the place, along with cattle and wood implements for the sacrifice, without any charge. But David insisted on paying, and 2 Samuel 24:24 shows that he purchased the threshing floor and the cattle for 50 silver shekels. However, 1 Chronicles 21:25 speaks of David’s paying 600 gold shekels for the site. It appears that the writer of Second Samuel dealt only with the purchase of the altar location and materials for the sacrifice made at that time, and that the price he refers to was restricted to these things. Contrariwise, the writer of First Chronicles discussed matters with regard to the temple later built on that site, and he associates the purchase with that construction. (1 Chron. 22:1-6; 2 Chron. 3:1) The entire temple area being quite large, apparently the sum of 600 gold shekels applied to the purchase of that large area rather than to the small portion required for the altar first built by King David.
This is just a sample of the seeming contradictions in the Bible and how one can reconcile the differences. I could provide many more, but this will suffice to make my point.
Comments
Very well said. Tis the truth, even though many on here don't know it or want to believe it. <:))))<><
by sleeppro on April 12th, 2007
In other words, belief in Jesus requires that we utterly ignore the prima facia contradictions. Sorry, you can't have it both ways in my book. Either it is God's word (in which case God is one confused puppy) or it isn't. I'm not saying that the overall message of God/Jesus is not valid. But saying that a Bible (and there are so *many* to choose from...;-D...) is the inerrant word of God given the actual history of the text is just plain misguided.
by Old School on May 20th, 2007
With all due respect, do you have any proof of the Bible having contradictions?
by ...trust in the Lord Jesus Christ. on May 21st, 2007
I do not know what standard constitutes 'proof' in your frame of reference. But I can offer much evidence:
http://members.aol.com/ckbloomfld/index.html
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html
http://www.atheists.org/christianity/contradictions.html
http://biblical.justdrew.net/
I could go on, but you get the idea.
Note: I have also looked at some of the web sites where biblical contradictions are 'disproved' and I find them unconvincing.
They seem to depend upon two tactics: 1) the most microscopic fine hair-splitting. For example, God puts an irresistible treasure before a man. If He just puts it there, He is 'testing' the man. If He puts it there and encourages the man, He is 'tempting' the man. Hence, contradictory Bible passages about temptation are not contradictory.
by Old School on May 21st, 2007
The second tactic used by these Biblical inerrancy sites is to appeal to interpretation, translation, context, situational applicability and the like. This is NONSENSE. All those processes are instances of HUMAN cognition. And human cognition IS fallible. So when someone says "This passage applies to one context, but this other passage applies to another" we are depending his/her interpretation, NOT God's. What gives that person's claim primacy over my claim that "No. They're talking about the same thing". You cannot defend God's infallibility using human fallibility.
by Old School on May 21st, 2007
God is infallibe, therefore His Word is infallible. You have the right to believe whatever you want to believe, but I believe that the Bible is God's infallible Word. Those who claim it to have contradictions just simply do not understand it. May I ask you a question: Do you believe that Jesus is the Son of God?
by ...trust in the Lord Jesus Christ. on May 21st, 2007
God (if he exists) is infallible (it sorta goes with the job description...;-D..). But the *authors* of the Bible are NOT God. They were *people*, with all of the fallibility that implies. To assert that no person involved in the writing, editing, transcription, translation or interpretation of the Bible anywhere at any time EVER made a mistake to me is a *gigantic* leap of faith. It may even be a bigger leap than believing in God in the first place. As for Jesus, I have no way of knowing if he was/is the Son of God or not. I think he had an incredibly powerful message about how we should live our lives, one that our modern self-centered short-sighted materialistic culture is not ready to embrace (Exhibit A: the senseless violence in Iraq). What or who Jesus was beyond that requires speculation and/or a leap of religious faith.
by Old School on May 21st, 2007
Yes, it does take a lot of faith, and the Bible teaches us that without faith it is impossible to please God. Faith is essential to our salvation because we are saved by grace through faith. I believe that the King James Bible is the inerrant Word of God preserved for us that speak the English language today. You don't have to believe that if you choose not to. We are given free will by God. I believe that even if there was a mistranslation in the King James Bible, my God is strong enough to let me know what He really meant, that is, suppossing that there were mistakes in it.
by ...trust in the Lord Jesus Christ. on May 22nd, 2007
SBG - I guess we'll have to get on with stoning all the people who work on the Sabbath then...:-P...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkXOwBIRX7Y
by Old School on May 22nd, 2007
I know what it says. We lived by law in the Old Testament. Now, in the New Testament, we live by grace because Christ has paid the penalty for our sins, death, already at the cross about 2,000 years ago.
by ...trust in the Lord Jesus Christ. on May 22nd, 2007
I guess then we'll just kill all of our enemies, disembowel the pregnant women and save the virginal girls for our rapacious purposes (New Testament - watch further in the video link).
by Old School on May 22nd, 2007
I've not seen the video link. I don't think my mother, or God for that matter, would approve of me seeing that. The Bible has taught me to love others. Jesus gave me a heart of love and replaced my old heart of hate and bitterness that I once had with a new heart of His love. By the way, I am not farmilliar with any verses in the New Testament that teach such things, at least not in the King James Version.
by ...trust in the Lord Jesus Christ. on May 22nd, 2007
SBG --OK, I'm done. If you refuse to even consider evidence contrary to your position, there's no point in discussing it. As I previously stated, I believe Jesus has a powerful message about the way we ought to live. It is not a contradiction to assert the general truth of Jesus' teaching AND that the Bible(s) is(are) full of errors, inconsistencies and contradictions. The Bible was written, edited, transcribed, translated, and interpreted by people and people are highly fallible. And if God is so freaking scared of you watching a 10-minute YouTube video, he's a very weak God indeed. Peace be with you.
by Old School on May 22nd, 2007
I didn't just say God, I also said my mother. She usually doesn't like me watching or seeing things like that if they are things that attack the Word of God. But, since you are done, I hope that things turn out well. Following Jesus is a decision that you have to make for yourself. I'm sorry that you'v made the decision that you have made, but it is your decision. Farewell.
-Respectfully
by ...trust in the Lord Jesus Christ. on May 22nd, 2007
The Bible is the best communication from God that a new believer could have. Is it without flaws? I am not going to get into that. But, when you are drowning, you grab the best thing you can to stay afloat. Yes, the contents were not dictated by God to a scribe who wrote it down word for word. But, throughout history, scribes did copy the antient texts very carefully and never changed them. Plus, there are more antient copies of the Bible, than any other collection of wirtings. And the time between when the original events took place and the time they were commited to parchment, was amazingly brief compared to other documents we take as authentic.
by Annton Cabibble on June 5th, 2009
Yes the Bible is flawless, but you have to have great faith to understand it. If you are unwilling to give your life completely to God, you will always see flaws in the Bible becasue it is impossible to understand without the right level of faith.
by 19kid was born in89 on July 17th, 2009
Unfortunately I disagree, there are clear contradictions in the bible. Of which you can find yourself simply by googling it. I can provide one thing which contradicts the idea that god is all knowing etc. tracing adams forefathers one can estimate the time of creation as between 6000-7000 years, as i've been told. But far be it for me to accept anything i am told without questioning. I have been confirmed in my assumption that most or a lot of christians think the earth was created between 6000-7000 years old. Unfortunately carbon dating has proved that the world is obviously millions/billions of years old. If the bible is gods word, and the bible claims that the age of the world is between 6000-7000 years old then god is wrong therefore not all knowing.
by MRABSOLUTE on July 26th, 2009
I feel sympathy for you "trust in....." you seem to be indoctrinated by your parent to the point where you are not allowed, or scared to, or your faith is so weak that you can't watch anything which speaks negatively about god. You can't expects for your opinion to credited if you just don't look at anyone else's opinion. I hope you wake up soon, even just to look at the evidence stacked against your mythical leader, because it is upsetting in deed that one would live their whole life sheltered from anything which remotely goes against the word of your god.
by MRABSOLUTE on July 26th, 2009
Is this a joke? It is quite amusing to hear such blatant nonsense. It is "trust..." who shows he does not understand tha Bible. The priests who created it from many Jewish writings were aware that it had many contradictions, so no one can effectively deny it.
by MegumiS on January 3rd, 2011
But no amount of prayer or relationship can reconcile flat contradictions like for example 2 Sam 10:18 and 1 Chronicles 19:18.
by w.j.rodenburg on May 19th, 2012