President Kimball once said that he is the liaison between man and God; however, 1 Timothy 2:5 says, "For there is ... ONE mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." Isn't this a bit contradictory?

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• Remember though the scripture 1 Tim 2:5 (Mentioned in the original question).

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  by scodey on September 14th, 2009

• Jesus Christ is God. Part of the trinity...The Father The Son and The Holy Ghost. I see no problem in that either. Because Jesus is God and of God He does not stand between man and God.

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  by Empress of Everything Ever on September 14th, 2009

• That certainly bends the mind a bit.

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  by scodey on September 14th, 2009

• I would just point out that, despite my challenge to do so, kona88 has never produced a reference to back up his assertion here. All that we have is his paraphrase of what he alleges President Kimball said. So, don't be so sure that this is really what he actually said.

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  by Glenn Blaylock on October 3rd, 2009

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• ::begins searching::

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  by kona88 on April 1st, 2007

• I would just like to point out that it has been almost two and a half years since I challenged Kona88 to provide a source for this alleged statement. As of yet no one has provided one. So, all we have here is a paraphrase of a statement that President Kimball is alleged to have made. Since no reference has been produced, as of yet, I am going to just chalk this one up to being the typical anti-Mormon tactic of misrepresenting what one of our leaders has said.

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  by Glenn Blaylock on September 14th, 2009

• You could do so, or you could try and find it for yourself. Sorry I don't spend my entire life online.

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  by kona88 on October 3rd, 2009

• You are the one that made the allegation, kona88. Therefore, it is your responsibility to provide the evidence that President Kimball actually said it. It is not my responsibility to prove that he did not. For you to now say that I should now try to disprove this assertion would be about the same as me say that I had once heard you claim to be the only liaIson between man and God. Now you go out and prove that I did not hear you say that. Do you have a record of everything that you have said? Do you want to go through all of it in a vain attempt to prove me wrong (because when you come back and say that there is no record of such a statement, I'll just assert that your record is incomplete).
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  No, I'm not going to let you off the hook that easily. YOU made the accusation. Now YOU provide the reference to back it up.

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  by Glenn Blaylock on October 3rd, 2009

• Here's the problem, Glenn. I got caught up in my career, family, etc. and don't check the internet every spare second. My precious children are more important. And quite honestly I know I won't get anywhere with you, so I'm not wasting my time.

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  by kona88 on October 21st, 2009

• In other words, your accusation goes unsubstantiated. All that I wanted was the original source so that we could see the statement in context before commenting what it meant. Since you can't provided that, this is what in logic is called a gratuitous assertion. By the rules of logic any gratuitous assertion can just a gratuitously be denied. So, I deny that President Kimball claimed to be anything more than any other prophet that God has called in His entire dealings with us.

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  by Glenn Blaylock on October 22nd, 2009

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• What proof has kona88 provided to support his contention that President Kimball actually said this?

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  by Glenn Blaylock on October 3rd, 2009

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• Thank you, Singwell. I know that you and I have had our disagreements on religion, but it is nice to see that we can agree on this, at least. Have +6 on me since it appears that someone else felt that it was unreasonable to actually require someone to provide evidence to support their accusation.

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  by Glenn Blaylock on October 3rd, 2009

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• President Kimball was the twelfth President and Prophet of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

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  by kona88 on March 31st, 2007

• Oh, thanks.

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  by unknown on April 1st, 2007