by Anonymous on May 3rd, 2009

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I think the bible says thou shalt not kill <or something like that > Anyway ... does that include flies?

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  • by Twisted Taco on May 3rd, 2009

    Twisted Taco

    Never mind flies, it doesn't even mean people. You can kill anybody you want so long as you claim that god told you to do it and it's a okay with the big guy

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  • by Brian on May 3rd, 2009

    Brian

    I went to 3 different web pages.

    The first two say, "Thou shalt not murder" without any explicit references to species.

    The third one ( http://www.whitestonejournal.com/tencommandments/ ) says, "Courtesy to all, speaking respectfully to all, seeking the best for all. Respecting others' freedom while still defending all human life."

    I would say that by default, that Commandment only includes humans .

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  • by Rinky Dinky Do on July 7th, 2009

    Rinky Dinky Do

    You didn't read that right, it goes like this:

    "Thou shall not kill. Certain limitations may apply."

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  • by iwnit on May 31st, 2009

    iwnit

    Thou shalt not kill? Rather thou shalt not murder...

    " 1 The LORD said to Moses, 2 "Take vengeance on the Midianites for the Israelites. After that, you will be gathered to your people."
    3 So Moses said to the people, "Arm some of your men to go to war against the Midianites and to carry out the LORD's vengeance on them. 4 Send into battle a thousand men from each of the tribes of Israel." 5 So twelve thousand men armed for battle, a thousand from each tribe, were supplied from the clans of Israel. 6 Moses sent them into battle, a thousand from each tribe, along with Phinehas son of Eleazar, the priest, who took with him articles from the sanctuary and the trumpets for signaling.

    7 They fought against Midian, as the LORD commanded Moses, and killed every man. 8 Among their victims were Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur and Reba—the five kings of Midian. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. 9 The Israelites captured the Midianite women and children and took all the Midianite herds, flocks and goods as plunder. 10 They burned all the towns where the Midianites had settled, as well as all their camps. 11 They took all the plunder and spoils, including the people and animals, 12 and brought the captives, spoils and plunder to Moses and Eleazar the priest and the Israelite assembly at their camp on the plains of Moab, by the Jordan across from Jericho. [a]

    13 Moses, Eleazar the priest and all the leaders of the community went to meet them outside the camp. 14 Moses was angry with the officers of the army—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—who returned from the battle.

    15 "Have you allowed all the women to live?" he asked them. 16 "They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and were the means of turning the Israelites away from the LORD in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the LORD's people. 17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."
    Source and further information:
    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=4&chapter=31&version=31

    "49 To purify the house he is to take two birds and some cedar wood, scarlet yarn and hyssop. 50 He shall kill one of the birds over fresh water in a clay pot. 51 Then he is to take the cedar wood, the hyssop, the scarlet yarn and the live bird, dip them into the blood of the dead bird and the fresh water, and sprinkle the house seven times. 52 He shall purify the house with the bird's blood, the fresh water, the live bird, the cedar wood, the hyssop and the scarlet yarn. 53 Then he is to release the live bird in the open fields outside the town. In this way he will make atonement for the house, and it will be clean.""
    Source and further information:
    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=3&chapter=14&version=31

    There are lots of such stories in the Old Testament, where animals are killed. Flies are mostly just mentioned as plagues.

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  • by Galeanda on May 3rd, 2009

    Galeanda

    It isn't killing that is wrong, it's murder, so it doesn't include animals killed for a purpose, as they were often used in sacrifices and for food.

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  • by buttman on July 7th, 2009

    buttman

    Well, this is quite conflicting, because if I'm correct,
    I think that's one of that book's *Ten Commandments*--
    purportedly given to the dude named Moses by the
    [good Lord] himself, to zealously observe. Yet the
    same good Lord ordered his protegee Moses to "destroy
    men, women and children" of the kingdom of Og in Bashan. (DEUTERONOMY 3:2-4). So from this biblical
    account I would infer that yes, you can kill whatever
    the heck you want--flies included.

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  • by Carl_07 on July 7th, 2009

    Carl_07

    Plain and simple, God said thou shalt not kill, He was talking about humans not animals or flies.

    In Genesis, we find that when God made man, He said that man will rule over the earth, plants, animals, etc.We are reponsible for this planet earth and will be held accountable for what we do with It.God gave plants and animals as food, but not all Is to be eaten.

    Insects and flies were plagues to the Pharaoh, since he did not want to free the Israelites...

    Exodus 8:24 Dense swarms of flies poured Into Pharaoh's palace and Into the houses of his officials, and throughout Egypt the land was ruined by the flies.

    For some members that are here answering and are confused when God said kill these people...

    Samuel 15:3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them.Do not spare them, put to death men and women, children and Infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.

    Answer: Numbers 13:33 And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants and we were In our own sight as grasshoppers and so we were In their sight.

    That's why God gave the order +)

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  • by Naamah on July 7th, 2009

    Naamah

    The actual wording is thou shalt not murder, but a whole lot of people were murdered supposedly on gods orders, so I think that commandment has been breached by the creator, therefore, null and void.

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  • by Fiddle Playing Creole Bastard on May 31st, 2009

    Fiddle Playing Creole Bastard

    Depends on your interpretation. Some Christians wouldn't hurt a fly, a person, or anything in between, and other Christians would gladly shoot you if it meant they got something out of it, and still others think that murder applies only to humans or to higher species of primates, animals perceived to have souls, etc.

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  • by Sandman on May 7th, 2009

    Sandman

    Not if you kill the fly for food, or unless you're a Buddhist or a Jain, and I don't know the word for those who practise Ahimsa.

    In any case, the Hebrew word meant to kill a member of your own tribe, ergo more or less "murder."

    But the Bible also says that in certain circumstances you MUST kill certain people.

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  • by Symbeline on May 6th, 2009

    Symbeline

    I think it refers to humans, mostly. I don't think God frowns on us killing things for food, but then, who eats flies. :/ I don't know...what does God say about needlessly killing animals and insects?

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  • by krsnaknows on May 4th, 2009

    krsnaknows

    It's very funny that we kill millions of tiny creatures otherwise in our stomach, while walking, gesturing, moving about and so on but we never consider it as bad because we hardly pay attention to it! Death is a part of our day to day physical lives and we should be aware of it and not make a cause of something unholy! I think that statement may be taken with some other perspective in mind and not while killing flies!!

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  • by Macmedic and yet ... here I am on May 3rd, 2009

    Macmedic and yet ... here I am

    Its a common misconception.

    The original Hebrew was "Thou shall not murder"

    A very different concept.

    especially in the light of End of life termination.

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  • by lovebettafish on May 31st, 2009

    lovebettafish

    Hmmn, I think if you kill one and toss it in the bin, something will eat it at the refuse dump so it becomes a part of the circle of life. That is my excuse anyway.

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  • by pouncey on May 31st, 2009

    pouncey

    murder is killing for no reason unless the fly pisses you off then thats a reason besides that its murder

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  • by Hillbilly on May 31st, 2009

    Hillbilly

    I hope not as well as Spiders, Snakes and Cock Roaches..They are all dead meat around me. Yes ants too.

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  • by Lets Be Honest on June 11th, 2009

    Lets Be Honest

    I hope not.....if so, I am in trouble........

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  • That is good. I think its ok especially if he is attacking you. I usually put spiders back outside but let the cat take care of most of the fun stuff that flies around.

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  • by granpa on July 7th, 2009

    granpa

    according to gen 1 we were meant to be vegetarians so who knows.

    vermin on the other hand must die. thats just the way it has to be.

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  • by Timjon on July 7th, 2009

    Timjon

    GET REAL!

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  • by Sixty B - Commander Topcoat on May 5th, 2009

    Sixty B - Commander Topcoat

    Probably.

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