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Top Answer out of 6 by urk on Mar 17, 2009 at 2:08 pm Permalink
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Thanks, urk.
Sure thing man.
Answer 2 out of 6 by LAoV - leaving AB - Please see profile on Mar 17, 2009 at 1:50 pm Permalink
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Exactly. That argument is always taken out of context. God what not mad at him for "spilling," but for disobeying Him.
Er... "God was not mad..." grr I give me a -5 for that one.
Yep, I know.
One of the many reasons I'm no longer a Christian. Answer 3 out of 6 by Suby the Coat on Mar 17, 2009 at 7:43 pm Permalink
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Ha! Well said.
AIDS epidemic is raging. But don't accept the one proven preventive meassure. What kind of logic is that? What do scriptures have to do with AIDS prevention and control?
Answer 4 out of 6 by ChrisDC on Mar 17, 2009 at 2:13 pm Permalink
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I believe you are right about the Pope's rationale, but I further agree that you're right, there is nothing in the Bible that justifies such a position.
I'm assuming that it goes back to the idea that pleasure simply for the sake of pleasure is indulgent and wrong.
I'm a Christian myself (Methodist), but there are enough things in the Bible that you can pretty much cherry pick a verse here and a verse there to justify what you want. So I kind of have a skeptical eye toward that, while remembering that one corollary of that is that no one should believe he's right all the time. :-)
Well, you're certainly right about not believing you are right all the time. :)
Answer 5 out of 6 by Carpediem COAT ab imo pectore on Mar 17, 2009 at 6:15 pm Permalink
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Interesting. Now I also have to go looking for the place where the Bible assigns to any man the right to override the laws of God.
Non of what I said is in the Bible, the Bible is not a dictionary were you find what you need in alphabetical order, it is a matter of understanding, interpretation & theology. It's the prerogative of the Roman Catholic Church to make exceptions so authorized by the highest ranked Bishop or Archbishop in the Dioceses where the exception is requested. The same applies for marriage annulments.
. The Bible is more or less like the Constitution/Bill of Rights, written in general and broad terms but may be applied according to the legislators understanding if not then amendments will be required. . The Bible is no different, remember when it was written & in those times many of todays issues did not exist such as AIDS, condones, contraceptives, abortion, divorce & others, thus are applied according to the best judgment of the local church authorities & who vote to apply the dispense or not. . Continues....
If an agreement is not reached then the requested dispense will be send to the Vatican for consideration.
. The Bible does not assign "any man" the right to override the laws of God, an Archbishop, Bishop, Cardinal and others are not any man and they are not painted on a wall as decoration, they have severe responsibilities. . Allow me to ask: If a woman marries a man by the Roman Catholic rite but is cheated regarding his sexuality, a month later she finds out who he truly is what is she supposed to do? Remain married to this person? Obtain a divorce or request an annulment? . Reasons: She was cheated into a wrongful & sinful marriage, she ignored the truth regarding her then husband to be, therefore she is free to ask for an annulment which must follow the established procedure according to the Roman Catholic Church. . Mind you these issues are not easy. Many documents, medical certificates and many others including witnesses must be presented to begin the procedure. Answer 6 out of 6 by bear on Mar 17, 2009 at 7:53 pm Permalink
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I don't think it can work like that as you are sending mixed messages. "Safe Sex" is a lie founded on falses pretenses of security and perpetuated by those who have less interest in saving the lives of Africans than they do in imposing their own secularist agenda. Besides, as I said, it's not only about AIDS but in changing sexually immoral behavior. The only way to truly stop the spread of the virus is to promote abstinence, marital fidelity and chastity (sexual virtue).
It has worked. Again, the studies show that education programs that include how to use condoms and their risks are far superior to education programs that stress abstinence only.
Bear, I love your opening remarks [answer], Man.
And I dig your orientation: It's not about AIDS, but moral behaviour and chastity, and belief in the One who Created all things - both in Heaven and in earth - and who is our Father in Heaven.
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