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by Lil China Boot on December 3rd, 2003
This link is an excerpt from Surah, a book of the Quran.
http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/quran/4.htm
Verse 4:15 states that if a woman is guilty of lewdness she should be confined to her house until death. Whereas in verse 4:16 it states that if a man is guilty of lewdness he should be left alone as long as he repents.
Verse 4:34 states that if a wife is guilty of disloyalty and ill-conduct, the husband should first, admonish her; second, refuse to sleep with her; and last, beat her lightly.
by mzkhadir on August 14th, 2003
The Quran does not permit a man to beat his wife if she is insubordinate.
by abcdefg on August 19th, 2008
Islam is the only religion that discusses this issue and limits abuse of women by their husbands which is a phenomena that exists in every society ... Islam does not leave any social issue but discusses it and defines rules and regulations for it
other religions leave this issue open to the discretion of the husband ... good thing is that secular law prohibits beating in other cultures because there are no limits to whatever a man can do
by Anonymous on December 11th, 2006
Hi,
No, it is the wife's right NOT to be beaten. This is the consensus of the Islamic jurists. The Last Prophet NEVER hit any of his wives. It is not encouraged.
Any man who does is not following Islam properly. The correct interpretation of that verse is that it is a LAST resort (3 steps) if there is a need and ONLY if it is going to work. It is not to be done with anything larger or wider than a skinny branch the size of the distance between your thumb and index finger tips. It must not leave marks, and it must not be bruise her or cause any bones to break. So it even in lighter than how ANY parent, regardless of religion or culture, would spank their child on their behind.
But like I said, the scholars are agreed that if this will not help, or she will not improve herself then even as a last resort, it should not be done then.
My job is only to convey the truth plainly and entirely and only God guides whoever He wills to guide. But whoever He does not guide, none can guide. I have done my duty, and Allah is my witness.
On a side note:
As a general advise in life, if you're going to ask questions and you have already decided what you want or not to believe, at least show some manners, if you have any self-respect. Doing the contrary is not being open-minded.
by Anonymous on April 18th, 2005
Hi,
please read this it gives a more detailed and accurate answer. By the way, sometimes as with any religion, in my opinion, people may follow culture more than the religion themselves, which is why sometimes people of other religions may percieve horrible actions as being "part" of the religion itself.
http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=41199&dgn=4
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by CINDY on June 26th, 2009
no thats soo not true. maybe u should look up this when u get a chance islam womens right quran. so this should give u true facts about womens right in islam.
by Mystical on June 27th, 2009
Absolutely the Q allows for this. Mohammad also beat up (struck her on the chest) Aisha according to a hadith. Muslims dont usually deny it but claim the words that states "beat them" should be translated as "tap them lightly". (Q4:34)
by dr james on August 9th, 2008
yes and kill his daughters if she misbehaves... as is seen in the usa as recently as july 2008
by H n C on June 27th, 2009
Nop ...no beating wives in islam..
by iwnit on June 26th, 2009
1) "The relationship between Islam and domestic violence is disputed. There is still, among Islamic scholars, a debate about whether there are occasions on which a man beating a woman is appropriate. These ideas are justified with reference to the Qur'an, especially An-Nisa, 34, which discusses forms of beating in certain circumstances. Many of the scholars allowing "beating" stress that it is a last resort, discountenanced, and must be done so as not to cause injury."
"An-Nisa, 34
Main article: An-Nisa, 34
Verse 34 of an-Nisa is one of the most important verses for husband and wife relationship in Islam. In most translations, it forbids men to beat their wives if they fear "rebellion," or "nushûz". Many interpretive problems have arisen regarding the occasions (if any) on which beating is appropriate, the type of beating prescribed, and whether beating remains discountenanced even if acceptable.
- Proper and improper occasions for beating:
Beating is not permitted after "nushûz" (نُشُوز), which is translated as "disloyalty and ill-conduct" by Yusuf Ali, "rebellion" by Pickthall and "desertion" by Shakir. Ibn Abbas, cousin of Muhammad and early Qur'anic exegete, states that nushuz refers to disobedience in sexual matters; while another early commentator, at-Tabari, explains that nushuz means to refuse intercourse due to a feeling of superiority and elevation over the husband.
In some exegeses such as those of Ibn Kathir and Tabari, the actions prescribed in 4:34 are to be taken in sequence: the husband is to admonish the wife, after which (if his previous correction was unsuccessful) he may remain separate from her, after which (if his previous correction was still unsuccessful) he may not hit her. Contemporary Egyptian scholar Abd al-Halim Abu Shaqqa refers to the opinions of jurists Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani and al-Shawkani who state that hitting should only occur in extraordinary cases.
- Type of beating prescribed:
Some Islamic scholars and commentators have emphasized that beatings, even where not permitted, are not to be harsh or some even contend that they should be "more or less symbolic." According to Abdullah Yusuf Ali and Ibn Kathir, the consensus of Islamic scholars is that the above verse describes a light beating. Abu Shaqqa refers to the edict of Hanafi scholar al-Jassas (d. 981) who notes that the reprimand should be "A non-violent blow with siwak [a small stick used to clean the teeth] or similar. This means that to hit with any other means is legally [Islamically] forbidden."
Scholars and commentators have stated that Muhammad directed men not to hit their wives' at all, not to beat their wives in such a way as would leave marks on their body, and not to beat their wives as to cause pain (ghayr mubarrih). Scholars too have stipulated against beating or disfigurement, with others such as the Syrian jurist Ibn Abidin prescribing ta'zir punishments against abusive husbands.
- Undesirablity of beating:
Some jurists argue that even when beating is acceptable under the Qur'an, it is still discountenanced. Ibn Kathir in concluding his exegesis exhorts men to not beat their wives, quoting a hadith from Muhammad: "Do not hit God's servants" (here referring to women). The narration continues, stating that some while after the edict, "Umar complained to the Messenger of God that many women turned against their husbands. Muhammad gave his permission that the men could hit their wives in cases of rebelliousness. The women then turned to the wives of the Prophet and complained about their husbands. The Prophet said: 'Many women have turned to my family complaining about their husbands. Verily, these men are not among the best of you.""
Source and further information:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_domestic_violence
2) "The Qur'an, chapter 4 (An-Nisa), verse 34:
“ Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.— translated by M. H. Shakir"
"The term "nushûz" (نُشُوز) is translated as "disloyalty and ill-conduct" by Yusuf Ali, "rebellion" by Pickthall and "desertion" by Shakir. Other scholars have drawn on hadiths to interpret the meaning of the word.
Ahmad Shafaat, a 21st century Sunni Islamic scholar says:
“ The literal meaning of the word is "rebellion". But rebellion against whom and in what sense? We should certainly not think of this in terms the rebellion of the ruled against a ruler in a sultanate or dictatorship and conclude that it consists of the wife disobeying some of the husband's commands. This is because the same word nushuz is used in case of a husband in verse 128 of the same surah 4, where it is said: "If a woman fears nushuz on her husband's part..." So nushûz is something that can be feared by the husband on the wife's part or by the wife on her husband's part. It cannot therefore be understood in terms of the ruler-ruled relationship. To correctly understand the meaning of the word, it must be noted that both in the verse under consideration and in verse 128 the reference to nushuz is followed by a reference to the break-up of the marriage (see vv. 35, 130). If this context is kept in mind, then it becomes evident that nushuz means the type of behavior on the part of the husband or the wife which is so disturbing for the other that their living together becomes difficult. ...In short, nushûz is a behavior on the part of one marriage partner which comes out of ill-will and seriously disturbs the other partner."
Source and further information:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An-Nisa,_34
by Nice Guy In Bay Area on June 26th, 2009
It appears that this is true.
"Men are the managers of the affairs of women for that God has preferred in bounty one of them over another, and for that they have expended of their property. Righteous women are therefore obedient, guarding the secret for God's guarding. And those you fear may be rebellious admonish; banish them to their couches, and beat them. If they then obey you, look not for any way against them; God is All high, All great." (Arberry's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)
"Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in their sleeping places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great. (Shakir's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)
(source: http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-wife-beating-koran-4-34.htm)
by Anonymous on June 24th, 2009
I'm assuming the verse 4:34 is in question here?
That verse is wrongly translated.
The word 'Beat' is generally regarded as the translation of 'adribu' in Arabic, the word used in this verse. The root of adribu is 'Daraba' which has several meanings. It is used in other places in the Quran to mean "set forth" or "sets up for you" or "makes known to you":
(13:17)- yadribu Allahu al-amthala “Thus Allah sets forth a parable”
[here the word "yadirbu" is from the exact same root da-ra-ba]
(14:24)- Alam tara kayfa daraba Allahu mathalan .. “Don’t you see how Allah sets forth a parable?..”
(14:25)-wa yadribu Allahu al-amthala li-naasi
“..and Allah sets forth parables for mankind..”
(24:35)- wa yadribu Allahu al0amthala lin-naasi
“And Allah sets forth parables for mankind..”
(30:28)- Daraba lakum mathalan min anfusikum
“He sets forth for you a parable from yourselves..”
(66:10)- Daraba Allahu mathalan lillatheena kafaroo..
“Allah sets forth an example for those disbelievers..”
http://www.mail-archive.com/islamkristen@yahoogroups.com/msg00121.html
by Spengo on August 9th, 2008
quote the scripture that says it's okay to "mercy kill" your wife
by Spengo on August 9th, 2008
actually...teh correct wording in the Koran is "discipline". It never states raising your hand is okay as far as I know, I could be wrong, still trying to get through reading it
by thatsJustme on July 16th, 2009
i knew one islamic woman,personally...she had a son and daughter with her husband....he forced her to leave ....without her children....he remarried...the new wife killed the little girl....and she then had a son.....she was not allowed to see either for many years ..i think at the son's request , she had finally gotten to spend a little time at intervals with her son....all she lives for...
me , I'd rather have been beaten daily than leave my kids....but women have no choice over such....
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Correct. But each book of the Qur'an is called a "Surah". The fourth surah, which you cite, is entitled "Women".
by Too Much Time On My Hands on September 6th, 2004
People need to be more aware of the surrounding verses to truly understand the meaning behind this.
by AhMeD_2_3 on November 19th, 2004
surah means chapter, and juz means part. there are 114 chapters.. 30 parts in the Quran. Surah does not mean book.Thank you.
by Anonymous on April 20th, 2005
stick to what you know you are quoting ridiculous translations
by Notdasame on September 2nd, 2005
I read the verses surrounding these and it's pretty straight forward. This is what it says
by Helix42 on September 8th, 2005
Try taking Bible verses out of context and the result is the same.
by Alatea on October 16th, 2005
Solid answer. Of course they really left "ill-conduct" and "lightly" broad and up to a husband's interpretation huh?
by Joshua Zambrano on February 17th, 2006
No, it is not left up to him.. The exegesis of those verses is this, according to the consensus of the scholars: First of all i tis not even recommended even as a LAST resort because none of the Prophets, not even the last one did so.
Secondly, even if someone does it, it should not be felt more than what a light "slap" on a child's behind would feel like. So it must not bruise, or put any marks, or cause bleeding. the thing it self cannot be wider than the pencil width. It cannot be longer than the space between the top of the index finger and the top of the thumb.
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Most of the beatings that are heard of is domestic violence which has no place in Islam. It is due to certain cultures, but not due to the verses.
And what about boyfriends people have who hit women and even murder them? No such violence should be tolerated and help should be sought. One can find domestic violence in almost any country now, not just the west.
by Anonymous on June 5th, 2007
Maybe this should be another question: what is the point in beating someone lightly?
People beat each other lightly for sexual pleasure, actually I think some people beat each other hard for pleasure.
What I mean is, if it's to discipline the wife, then it doesn't make any sense to say "lightly" . It's either a physical punishment - i.e. it's gonna HURT - or it's not going to have any effect.
So what on earth is the point?
by cluckie on August 9th, 2008
its all up to the mans interpretation...in the usa a father killed his 2 daughters last month ,jully 2008, for talking to boys on the phone and giggling too much
by dr james on August 9th, 2008
dr james...even you, scholar amongst scholars must realize that a father killing his daughters over giggling is not allowed in Islam.
by Spengo on December 26th, 2008
Hey Doc Jimmy, how does one cure a pain in the neck?
by Theby on June 26th, 2009
Verse 4:15 states that if a woman is guilty of lewdness she should be confined to her house until death
please complete the verse till the end (or Allah ordains for them some (other) way) to know that this has been changed and god make another punishment. :)
2:106 ((Whatever a Verse (revelation) do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring a better one or similar to it. Know you not that Allah is able to do all things?))
you don't know any thing about adrogation in quran..so don't claim any thing
by Ahmed_225 on July 18th, 2009
about beating woman...god make beating is the last solution .. pls read the verse carefully till its end..beating doesn't mean to hurt her...using small stick to loghtly beat her ..it will not hurt her but she will know that you are serious...............i don't know how to say that...excuse me :)
what i want to say any one can interpret verses as he like..so we should return to Mohammed Say's and what muslim in the past do in thses cases...to know the righ inerpretaion of the verse
by Ahmed_225 on July 18th, 2009
you make me laugh..beating doesnt mean to hurt her..but you say it is the final solution..so funny..if it is the final solution..and it is soooo mild a form of punishment..WHAT WOULD BE THE POINT...
by Happy-Dance on August 4th, 2009
AND AMHED DARLING..what if the husband is being a total turd to his wife....does she get to beat him...ofcorse not to hurt him (smile)..i mean islam does claim to respect women..so surely your god would allow punishment of an ungodly muslim man by his righteous muslim wife..
by Happy-Dance on August 4th, 2009