Mormon eating and drinking customs
 
Question:
Avatar

Why do some Mormons abstain from drinks with caffeine in them?

By Santaanacanyon Asked Jul 5 2003 6:16PM
12
Pts
 
 
Rate Question
Answer Question Help someone!
Get the latest questions in Mormon eating and drinking customs
flag

Welcome to Answerbag, a community of people sharing what they know.
Sign up now to ask a question or help someone else by giving an answer!

signup now
Sort answers by: Rating | DateArrow Down
 

Top Answer out of 16

by Anonymous on Jan 4, 2004 at 8:37 pm Permalink

Avatar
This answer was last edited on: Mar 21, 2007
  It's actually a myth that Mormons are required to avoid caffeine.  What is proscribed are “hot drinks”, this term having been clarified to mean specifically coffee and tea, and to include cold and decaffeinated versions thereof; but not including herbal teas.

  The source for this is what we call “The Word of Wisdom”, which is found in the 89th section of the Doctrine and Covenants.  See http://scriptures.lds.org/dc/89

  Originally, this was given as advice, and not as a commandment.  In the early days of the church, members were encouraged to obey it, but were entirely free to disregard it.

  It has been narrowed and raised to the status of a commandment.  In current application, the Word of Wisdom means that members are commanded to abstain from the use of:

    • Strong drink (meaning alcoholic beverages)
    • Hot drinks (meaning, as I said before, coffee and tea)
        …and…
    • Tobacco

  This is “the letter of the law”, so to speak, which one must obey in order to remain a Mormon in good standing.

  The spirit of the Word of Wisdom dictates that we are to take care of our bodies, and to avoid using or ingesting any product that is harmful to us.  However, beyond the three things mentioned above, this is entirely a matter of personal conscience and choice.  I think the following statement by Spencer W. Kimball, who was the prophet and president of the church some years ago, best clarifies the principles involved here:

        “I never drink any of the cola drinks and my personal
        hope would be that no one would. However, they are
        not included in the Word of Wisdom in its technical
        application. I quote from a letter from the secretary
        to the First Presidency, ‘But the spirit of the Word of
        Wisdom would be violated by the drinking or eating of
        anything that contained a habit-forming drug.’ With
        reference to the cola drinks, the Church has never
        officially taken any attitude on this at but I personally
        do not put them in the class as with the tea and coffee
        because the Lord specifically mentioned them [the hot
        drinks].”

        (Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, p. 202.)
22
Pts
 
 
Rate Answer
 
flag
Comments show all comments Show More
Avatar Rottweiler Oct, 18 2006 at 03:18 PM
(^ Bob) Thank you, thank you! *hugs Bob*s knees* *straightens up, rather embarrassed* Ahem. Look, it just needed to be said, all right? Coffee and tea are out because of a chemical called tanic acid. Know what a tanner does? They use tanic acid.
Avatar Anonymous Nov, 18 2006 at 03:24 AM
It's never been made clear why tea and coffee are proscribed; just that they are.  Once it became clear that caffeine wasn't the reason, some speculated that perhaps it was tannic acid.  But this is a speculation, just as caffeine was.
Avatar Krys Dec, 17 2007 at 08:57 AM
Bob:
Rational and well spoken with references to back your explanation up. Thank you!!
~ Krys

Answer 2 out of 16

by Kim Siever on Apr 1, 2005 at 9:47 am Permalink

Avatar
To answer the question that was posted (why do Mormons abstain from caffeinated drinks), rather than answer a question that was not (why are Mormons required to abstain from caffeinated drinks), here is my response. Some Mormons abstain from caffeinated drinks because they have extrapolated that since tea and coffee are prohibited and both contain caffeine, it must be the caffeine that is bad.

As has already been repeated several times, this is nothing but personal opinion and is not an official practise. It is simply personal preference and tradition.
12
Pts
 
 
Rate Answer
 
flag
Comments
Avatar Glenn Blaylock Nov, 12 2005 at 12:43 PM
Avatar Rottweiler Oct, 18 2006 at 03:19 PM
(^ Kim) Nice answer. And you*re right. It*s not wrong to abstain from caffeine. It*s just a personal choice.
Avatar seanmcox Dec, 14 2007 at 11:53 AM
I personally abstain from caffeine, but my reasons don't match the ones you gave. I expect such is the case with many others as well.
There are many other good non-speculative reasons to abstain from caffeine.

Answer 3 out of 16

by Glenn Blaylock on Aug 16, 2007 at 12:43 am Permalink

Avatar
To be honest, we don't really know why the Lord prohibited coffee and tea. It has been assumed that it is because of the caffeine they contain, but the prohibition does not officially extend to other caffeinated beverages. Some of our leaders have discouraged these other beverages, but this has never been raised to the same level as the prohibitions against coffee or tea. Others have proposed other reasons for this restriction, but we really don't know why the Lord forbade them.

By the way, herbal teas and hot chocolate are allowed.
Answer originally posted in response to Why can't Mormons drink coffee, but they can drink Coke? Why...
9
Pts
 
 
Rate Answer
 
flag
Comments (be the first to comment)

Answer 4 out of 16

by Anonymous on Sep 19, 2005 at 6:32 am Permalink

Avatar
This answer was last edited on: Nov 7, 2005
Because we are to avoid unhealthful things. Caffeine, as a "recreational drug," is not healthful. Some (like myself) don't use caffeine except when we need a mild stimulant for health or safety reasons and prefer one which is relatively benign.

Far from being an excuse, when given the choice between pharmacueticals and caffeine, caffeine wins hands-down.
9
Pts
 
 
Rate Answer
 
flag
Comments show all comments Show More
Avatar Glenn Blaylock Nov, 12 2005 at 12:42 PM
SS, everything has its proper use. It's when we abuse them that they become problems. Caffeine is no different.
Avatar pareto Dec, 10 2005 at 10:29 PM
This personal opinion is likely not a representation of the entire community.
Avatar Rottweiler Oct, 18 2006 at 03:22 PM
(v Alatea) We don*t need a *justification*, because it*s simply not against our religion.

Answer 5 out of 16

by Anonymous on Dec 11, 2007 at 5:32 pm Permalink

Avatar
because it is not good for you.And facts have included that it is made from tannic acid,which is very bad for you.
8
Pts
 
 
Rate Answer
 
flag
Comments (be the first to comment)

Answer 6 out of 16

by Corey Poindexter on Apr 17, 2004 at 11:46 am Permalink

Avatar
This answer is not to disagree with nor contend what has already been written. The simple answer is this: God has made it clear, since the very beginning, that we are left to make our own choices in regards to His commandments. God, in His infinite wisdom, understands that human nature cannot and will not be compelled to do something it does not want. In fact, human nature is about being free to choose.

As to the Word of Wisdom, it is something that is to be followed for a healthy life. In this evidence is found about diets and dieting, when to eat certain foods for the most productivity, etc. Further revelation can be received through prayer and meditation because let's face it, not everyone is the same. A diabetic cannot eat the same foods as someone with a heart condition. Also, every natural element on this planet has been put here for the benefit of man. Cocaine, morphine, heroin, tobacco, caffeine, wine, etc are all beneficial to the human race as long as they are used correctly. However, there in is the trick, using it correctly. Abuse is very easy to accomplish and care coupled with medical knowledge AND experience is should be strictly adhered to.

In short, it comes back to the member and their level of commitment to the Lord in obedience to the commands that are set forth.
8
Pts
 
 
Rate Answer
 
flag
Comments (be the first to comment)

Answer 7 out of 16

by ARENA-ThumP on Jul 7, 2003 at 6:59 pm Permalink

Avatar
Well, it's not really a hard and fast *rule* that Mormons aren't supposed to drink caffeinated beverages. There are the "black and white" guidelines that we've all come to know and love about Mormons, who consider these rules to be commandments. These include things like "no smoking", "no alcohol", "no premarital sex". You know, all the good stuff.

There are also the "grey areas". These are things that have been strongly suggested - but according to my knowledge aren't going to get you in serious trouble. You're just supposed to avoid them. These include things like drinking Coke or Pepsi, or perhaps watching rated "R" movies.

Why no Coke? Well, it has to do with another Mormon belief about always being in control of oneself. Things that can cause addictions are generally bad. Since we all know that caffeine can be addicting - that's bad.
8
Pts
 
 
Rate Answer
 
flag
Comments show all comments Show More
Avatar Mary Siever Feb, 04 2004 at 03:30 PM
IN response to the ever anti Sparta, the Church can't control anyone, oh ye of ignorant faith
Avatar Rottweiler Oct, 18 2006 at 03:21 PM
(^ Arena) Rated-R movies aren*t really a *grey area*. They actually are very strongly discouraged.
Avatar seanmcox Dec, 14 2007 at 11:56 AM
I'll second Rottweiler on that. They may not keep you out of the temple, but there is no ambiguity at all on the issue of Rated-R movies.

Answer 8 out of 16

by Krys on Aug 15, 2007 at 9:18 pm Permalink

Avatar
The truth is that they cannot drink caffeinated beverages,although some will drink soda for "headaches".

Hot drinks are prohibited in general because of scripture, but in practice, it is interpreted to mean herbal teas and hot chocolate are usually accepted.
Answer originally posted in response to Why can't Mormons drink coffee, but they can drink Coke? Why...
7
Pts
 
 
Rate Answer
 
flag
Comments show all comments Show More
Avatar seanmcox Dec, 15 2007 at 12:33 PM
Your use of the word "prohibited" is non-standard and will be oft misunderstood. My dictionary gives the word "prohibit" as 1. To forbid by authority 2. To prevent, preclude; and that is what I read into the word. That may not be what you meant, but it is what it means to others and hence others like myself will take issue with you, as your wording communicates an inaccuracy.
"Discouraged" is a much more accurate word.
Avatar Krys Dec, 16 2007 at 06:24 PM
Read the Words of Wisdom and Pearl of Great Price.... Compare these to the beliefs held by the members. Perhaps it is more cultural than scripture, but that depends on the amount of importance you put on these teachings I just named.
Further, read the discourses of the past prophets, or any of the Mormon-centered theology books from Ricks junior college or BYU. Sorry to disagree with you, however, your understanding seems fairly shallow. Good luck with that.
Avatar seanmcox Dec, 17 2007 at 08:40 AM
Goodness, now I understand where these rabid pro-caffeiners get their stereotype of anti-caffeiners like me.
How rude... and unnecessarily contentious.

Answer 9 out of 16

by Jed Merrill on Apr 11, 2008 at 11:32 pm Permalink

Avatar
If you want to know the answer to this question, I suggest you read the source:

D&C 89 (link)

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/89


"Hot drinks" were later defined specifically as coffee and tea. Drinks like Coca-Cola and Dr. Pepper did not exist back then, and are avoided by many Mormons based on the supposition that the warning here relates to caffeine, which also was not discovered as a substance until long after this revelation.

The main point here is that every herb and grain is created for a purpose and should be used for that purpose. Tobacco is good for wounds of cattle, for example, but it was never meant by God to be smoked or chewed.

The Jews also had/have a dietary code that proscribed eating meat from animals that have cloven hooves, like pigs. This probably saved them from a variety of diseases common in that day, and also served a symbolic purpose to early Christians, when Peter had a vision instructing him to now eat such things, as God had made them clean. (He was referring to being allowed to preach to the Gentiles.)

On a deeper level, Mormons believe that the "body is a temple" in which the Holy Spirit may dwell, and if we are addicted to drugs of any kind, including caffeine, it could disrupt our ability to recognize God's voice or influence, which are sometimes critical to our temporal survival (think DUI) and certainly play a part in our spiritual welfare and progression.

I think Proverbs 31 in the Old Testament is instructive. A mother tells her son that strong drink is not for princes, but for those who are ready to perish. If we understand our true role in relation to God, we will partake of nothing that keeps us from enjoying the full benefits or fulfilling the spiritually royal responsibilities associated with that role.

Put very simply, those who live by this counsel can expect to enjoy both spiritual and physical benefits.

As a Mormon myself, I believe that the discipline it takes to avoid certain things has helped refine my character. Will I go to hell if I drink caffeine? No. Will I limit my potential for learning and growth and lose both spiritual and physical benefits? Yes.
6
Pts
 
 
Rate Answer
 
flag
Comments (be the first to comment)

Answer 10 out of 16

by Lisainsala on Apr 11, 2008 at 5:36 pm Permalink

Avatar
There are some erroneous facts posted on this question that some need to consider about tea. Tannic acid from tea is NOT the same tannic acid used in tanning leather. There is huge difference in the chemestry in the type of tannic acid in tea that happens to have the same name. (see teatalk.com/science/tannin.htm ) Further, recent research on tea suggests that tannin (the tea kind) also contain anti-oxidents, Medscape (a fairly reliable medical website) suggests that tannin is helpful in the treatment of liver encymes, diabetes with properties helpful in metabolizing glycemic levels, and may be helpful in assisting with treatments of some cancers.

The question posed concern mainly with caffeine. Tannins (the tea kind) are actually not toxic but medicinally helpful. Cultures around the world for centuries have been using tea for its medicinal properties. (google: history of tea)
6
Pts
 
 
Rate Answer
 
flag
Comments (be the first to comment)


Add an Answer

Why do some Mormons abstain from drinks with caffeine in them?

How to write a good answer
Your answer:

Display answer in fixed-width font (good for tables or text diagrams)

Answers must adhere to our Terms of Use

To create links, just type the address with no HTML code. Use the Preview button at the bottom to verify.

You can edit your answer at any time.

Add Video Add Iimage


Important: Answerbag cannot guarantee the accuracy of answers submitted by members, and we recommend that you use common sense when following any advice found here. Read full disclaimer.