by Anonymous on December 31st, 2006

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I got drunk and ended up having sex with my boyfriend's best friend. He asked me if I wanted to and I said yes, but I would not have otherwise. He was less drunk and knew what he was doing. Is this rape even though I said yes?

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  • by Anonymous on March 2nd, 2007

    Anonymous

      No, this is you using alcohol as an excuse to avoid taking responsibility for your own bad choices.

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  • by Ankhorite on March 2nd, 2007

    Ankhorite

    I am sorry that you asked a legal question and have gotten many moral, philosophical, or insulting answers in response, and very little information about the law.

    Under the law, in some jurisdictions this would be sexual assault, and in others, it would not. Some states have chosen to respond to the problem of getting women intoxicated (on alcohol, or on "date-rape" or recreational drugs) past the point of "knowing consent" (meaning she knew what she was doing or saying) and have defined sex with an intoxicated or comatose woman as a crime, comparable to sex with a person under the age of consent, or a person medically incapable of consent (like someone with severe retardation).

    (These laws apply to men raping men and women raping men or women; I'm using a female victim and a male perpetrator because that's what you put in your question.)

    So, in some states, he COULD be charged with sexual assault -- but WOULD he be?

    Most prosecutors shy away from these cases, fearing that juries will ignore the law and refuse to convict, no matter how strong the evidence is. In this case, where you both used alcohol but you say you didn't know what you were doing (and at the same time, claim you weren't too drunk to know that he was less drunk than you were), he could make the exact same argument, and juries are going to have a hard time finding him guilty beyond a reaonable doubt. They'd have a hard time punishing him even if they feel there IS no doubt, no matter what the law requires.

    And even if a prosecutor felt there were a strong case, and agreed to charge the perpetrator and bring him to trial, the judge (in a bench trial) or the jury (in a jury trial) might not be willing to convict, either because you both used alcohol, or because you said yes -- even if that was not a "knowing consent" or a "competent consent."

    IF a prosecutor is willing to work on this, the most likely result is a plea bargain to some lesser charge. A smart defense attorney will try to get a plea-bargain to a charge which does not require the perpetrator to go on the state's Sexual Offender Registry.

    Again, my apologies for the abusive "answers" you received. All they really showed you is what a prosecutor is up against. :(

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  • by Anonymous on March 4th, 2007

    Anonymous

    No. if you had not wanted to have sex with this person, you would not have.

    Do not use the alcohol as an excuse.

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  • by lizizhere on March 1st, 2007

    lizizhere

    um....no its not rape. You decided to get drunk then you decided to say yes then you should decide to take responsiblity for your actions & quit using the " I was drunk" excuse for just being careless & stupid....gosh

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  • by 8 Jan 2004-10 Dec 2009 on March 2nd, 2007

    8 Jan 2004-10 Dec 2009

    Personally, I think that over-using alcohol to the point of losing self-control is a premeditated act on YOUR part. If you objected to the idea of possibly being talked into doing something stupid, or even uncharacteristic, then you would have limited your alcohol consumption!
    Take it from someone who has woken up with a hangover than wound up lasting to days wondering where their pants were. Intoxication is no excuse!

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  • by chick98 on March 2nd, 2007

    chick98

    No, it's not considered rape. You said yes. I know you were drunk, but alcohol makes people do stupid things. I think you have some apologizing to do.

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  • by wobalome on March 2nd, 2007

    wobalome

    I am sorry but my idea of rape is non consentual sex. If you said yes then that is the consent. People are too quick to blame alcohol for everything, but who lifted the glass up and drank it?. Yes he may have taken advantage of the situation but how far does a man have to go to make sure he doesn't get accused of rape? written consent?.
    The fact is that he asked and you said yes. HOW is that him raping you?. Sorry to be so blunt but in the same situation a freind of mine was taken to court for rape even though he asked and she said yes. Even though he was found not guilty his reputation had been shattered and he is now the shell of the man he used to be.

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  • by VivaNOLA on March 1st, 2007

    VivaNOLA

    No. If you're unsure, imagine a day in the future when you have a son who is in the same position as the guy who had sex with you. Given these circumstances, how would you feel about him going to jail for the next ten to twenty years, where he would likely be repeatedly beaten and raped by fellow inmates. My hunch is you would not want his offense designated as rape even if the girl was drunk when she clearly said "yes".

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  • by LynfromNM on December 31st, 2006

    LynfromNM

    This is a tough one. There are certainly circumstances in which a woman's "incapacitated" state makes her vulnerable, and there are men who will take advantage of that. You could make a case for rape but I think it would be very hard to prove it. The fact that you said "yes" will protect the man, and his guilt has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. The questions will be out there: did you cry "rape" because are trying to justify your own indiscretion? Did your boyfriend's "best friend" ply you with drink and was he aware how drunk you were? Did he try to get you so drunk that you would say "yes", knowing that otherwise it would be against your will? I don't know the statistics for this kind of case, but you could always consult an attorney or the local Attorney General's office for a legal assessment of your situation.

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  • by romelang1 on March 2nd, 2007

    romelang1

    Major lapse of judgement, girl.

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  • by Icebox April on March 2nd, 2007

    Icebox April

    I think in some places it might be legally considered rape. but otherwise, i'm going to say no. If the guy knew you wouldn't NORMALLY do that, but still had sex with you becuz you said yes, it's an effed up thing for him to do, but i wouldn't call it rape. just a big mistake on your part, and a major lapse in morality for him.

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  • by Bugs-Bunny on January 21st, 2009

    Bugs-Bunny

    Absolutely not rape - and it is foolish and childish and utterly absurd for you to suggest it.

    You made a choice in a drunken state and it was a bad choice - so now you want to 'undo' it by blaming alcohol - ridiculous. He also made a bad choice in a drunken state and he also needs to deal with it --- you are both idiots, so be it, but shit happens.

    You also have no idea how drunk he was and proof of your lack of subjectivity is the fact that admitted yourself to being drunk.

    Stop blaming booze, take responsibility for your actions, and get over it. Even saying the word 'rape' in this situation makes me puke ---- ridiculous.

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  • by HDev is living On tHE EdgE on December 31st, 2006

    HDev is living On tHE EdgE

    I dont know about your county but in India it is cosidrd a rape.

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  • by bastard on June 21st, 2007

    bastard

    I really like ankhorites answer. and maybe he will get a plea bargain but taking him to court will make you feel better. Im sorry this happened to you. justice is getting your chance to talk.

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  • by bastard on June 21st, 2007

    bastard

    Really well I think he raped her.

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  • by Jen_C7538 on July 17th, 2011

    Jen_C7538

    u said yes to him its not his fault your retard

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  • by Takei-Shihan on June 21st, 2007

    Takei-Shihan

    NO!

    At the absolute worse, he may, possibly, be slightly guilty of sexual misconduct, just for having asked you when he knew you were with someone else ... but it was YOU who drank more AND said YES, so YOU are the one holding the most guilt.

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  • by lilsophie8 on June 21st, 2007

    lilsophie8

    No cause you said yes. If you would have said no and if he would have done it still then yes but you said yes.

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  • by scifiducky on July 14th, 2010

    scifiducky

    It occurs to me that if you were raped you would not need to ask random people on the internet whether it happened or not. It seems somewhat demeaning to an actual victim who has been emotionally and possibly physically traumatized to liken your situation to theirs.

  • by psychotikid on July 16th, 2007

    psychotikid

    Look it's this cut and dry, NOBODY forced the liquor down your throat You were well aware of what you were doing, you said yes because you wanted to have sex with him. While I will give you that your decision may have been different had you not consumned the liquid courage. But I guess that is why they call it that now isn't it.You failed to mention whether you are of legal drinking age but my guess is you probably are not. Regardless of that,bottom line is YOU and only YOU put yourself in that situation and you knew what you wer doing, He even asked you! You could have said NO! Now because you feel guilty or because your boyfriend is gonna find out or has found out you want to destroy a man's life and forever make him a monster in the eyes of society just so you won't look like a cheating tramp to everyone. You can't decide after the fact that you said yes and try to say that although you said yes you really meant no and he should have known that. That is as weak as a no really meaning yes.

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  • by colegg on July 16th, 2007

    colegg

    If this ever became a legal matter & I found out about it, I'd be sure all that appears on this site about this matter is given the prosecution .. he would be innocent.

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  • by Bigcurt on April 15th, 2009

    Bigcurt

    No you agreed and wanted it at the time so it is just another experience for you

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