Although there are good things written in the bible, do you think that it was strategically written by people in a certain way to produce desired results of the men who wrote it?

This would be frankly impossible. When you come to read and understand the Bible from Genesis to Revelation ( a lifetime of understanding I promise you) you'll find that while there were many writers, that it was all divinely directed by the unseen God. It has a distinct, profound commonality through and through that only one source could have made this happen. It is rock solid and complete, it has all the stuff us mortal human beings need to get the job done. And, the Bible is not politically correct, nor shall it ever be. It demands you and me to change from our pathetic sinful state to one that is reconciled to the true God! Only then can we realize our purpose here on planet earth. Don't believe in political correctness, believe instead, on the Bible.

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The bible was written by man, not God. I have never committed a sin in my life. I don't believe in them. I could pick up a book on prostitution study it everyday, convince myself that it is the only holy book, do what I believe is right in life, then I will come to believe that I have benefited from doing so all of my life. It makes it even easier when you have millions of people who share the same standards and beliefs.
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by Don Gorgeous George on October 18th, 2008
Studying anything over an extended period of time begins to give you new perspectives on things and things start to make sense in relation to what you have been studying, and if you actually believe it to be of a supernatural source of all mighty power, it's that much more powerful on your mind.
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by Don Gorgeous George on October 18th, 2008
You mean to tell me you've:
Never, never lied?
Never stolen anything, even in childhood?
Never used the Lords' name in vain....ever?
Never lusted toward another woman that is not your wife?
Man, if you've never done any of these things ever, I need to bow down to YOU. All jokes aside, we've all fallen short from the glory of God.

Mans' hand might have penned on the papyrus, but he was but a secretary to the Divine Author. Why do you think its' been around so many years? To save our sorry butts from the destruction that's coming! Drop your unbelief, and come. This isn't "religion", it's the truth.
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by andthenitsgone on October 19th, 2008
Oh, for goodness sake. Here we go again. Another human who thinks they can categorise everyone according to their own beliefs. Why don't you just concentrate on yourself instead of trying to make everyone into sinners. If I stole something as a child and God labelled me as a sinner for life, I definately would not believe in Him. But it's not actually God who does this, it's people like you who feel you have to interfer in everyone else's life. And suppose you've got it wrong? Suppose Zoroastrians, or Buddists have got it right? What does that make you? An even bigger sinner for interfering in the lives of others.
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by Bohemian is back on October 19th, 2008
I have done everything that you have listed andthenitsgone. Some of which I don't feel was wrong, others which I do believe was wrong. I have forgiven myself, and I have peace of mind for doing so. I try not to do the things that I feel are wrong, and guess what... I have neve committed a sin in my entire life!!
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by Don Gorgeous George on October 19th, 2008
Friend, you need Jesus to come into your life.
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by andthenitsgone on October 19th, 2008
Mmmm. Only 63%. Says a great deal about how 'good Christians' operate.
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by Bohemian is back on October 19th, 2008
Well it's nice to know you're a professional consumer of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Your ladder is leaned up against a tree that is going to be burned to a crisp.
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by andthenitsgone on October 19th, 2008
andthenitsgone, you don't really seem to care about anyone but yourself. If God truly loved us, He would have uprooted that tree before it had the chance to destroy the human race and this beautiful earth that we live on. Why let the children play in the backyard if you know there is a rattle snake there? Just because you tell the children not to play with it because they will die if they do, does not mean that they are smart enough to listen to you. You need to keep them inside or dispose of the snake if you are a loving parent.
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by Don Gorgeous George on October 19th, 2008
Then it wouldn't be love then would it? It would be force. He doesn't operate that way, he gave us freewill to choose Him or rebel, that simple. Our flesh is in rebellion to Him. So as I watch people falling deeper and deeper into the lie of satan, getting into increasing wickedness, false gods, and deceptive teachers, the truth of Gods' Word will prevail. Oh and, don't take the c h i p. You'll be wailing in pain when the sun scorches you. You'll wish you could die, but you won't be able to find the means to do so.
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by andthenitsgone on October 20th, 2008
Hey, if I had come across as "only care about myself", I apologize. This would be highly misreprestentive of Christian belief. I'm a sinner that has accepted Jesus as my personal Savior saved by grace.
He doesn't wish for you and me to perish, but stuff is coming down the pike where it will be too late to receive Him into your heart. Get in the boat! What He has blows away what this mean old world has to offer.
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by andthenitsgone on October 20th, 2008
Mr JDMacaB I think Carrie's mother (from Steven King's book) has just appeared to us in the flesh!
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by Bohemian is back on October 20th, 2008
The veil of satan's lie has been over your physical sight since day 1 you came into this world. That's why you can't rely on it, you're physically seeing the lie manifest itself to humanity, and humanity getting sucked in. He's a murderer! There's nothing good about him. He's tried to get me years ago, I said hell no I won't go! This isn't mental, this is spiritual, there is a difference.
Come.
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by andthenitsgone on October 20th, 2008
Media, a great source of the lie manifest. Turn away.
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by andthenitsgone on October 20th, 2008
You know, Mr JDMacaB, religious fanaticism is a symptom of psychiatric illness.
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by Bohemian is back on October 20th, 2008
Yeah, I see it as like a cancer in the minds of the mass population, because it spreads so rapidly and has effected a huge percentage of people throughout the world. Fanatic, are you telling me to hop on the boat because you care, or are you trying to earn some heavenly brownie points? Letting your kids do everything they want is not love if you knowingly allow them to do the one thing that will kill them. Sometimes force is required for love to be real. You say that Satan is a murderer. I don't believe you. I can not think of one verse in the bible that proves that he is a murderer. God is the one who let us die in the garden of eden. God is the one who sent the great flood and whipped out just about every person and animal on this earth including innocent children. He is the one who sentenced His own son to death because He couldn't figure out a better way to just forgive people. Satan offered us knowledge, and now we can see what a monster God really is if we open our eyes.
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by Don Gorgeous George on October 20th, 2008
It is not ok with letting kids do whatever they want, they need correction, but not with big g o v t, with the parents! Did dad ever whoop your butt in correction? I hope so.
it out.
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by andthenitsgone on October 22nd, 2008
Satan is a murderer first because the Bible said so. Second because when a person murders somebody, he's acting like his father, the devil. Holocost: Killing, or murder? Murder.
In the garden of Eden we died SPIRITUALLY, sepearated from God, because of a SELFISH decision to allow the original rebel into our midst.
He sent Jesus to die for our sins because if He did not we would've taken the hit ourselves, and here we stand today living...breathing, and in good health. Figure it out.
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by andthenitsgone on October 22nd, 2008
That's how much He loved you and me. This is also how He beat satan. God is more orginal than satans' childish hopeless rebellion against God. Amen to that, FBG? Satan hates your guts, he wishes you dead. He wants to stand on your head to exalt himself, and is lying to you to do it, because thats' just how he is.
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by andthenitsgone on October 22nd, 2008
"Everyones' a god" Wow. What a lie this is huh? You know who wrote this quote. Tons of younger people walking around with tons of self-esteem, no discipine. No truth. Men need to be men again, loving fathers. How many loving fathers do we have today compared to say 20 years ago?
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by andthenitsgone on October 22nd, 2008
God does not love you or anyone else. How can you believe that a book written by men is truth? Since you do, why do you support such a hateful murderer you worship and call your God? You've never even seen God. You say that Satan hates us all, well I don't believe you. God is a proven murderer if you believe the bible. There is not one piece of evidence that Satan ever murdered anyone. What is with you people? I do not see your logic.
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by Don Gorgeous George on October 22nd, 2008
Don't you bring me into it 'and'. I have not time for prosletysers or the self-righteous nonsense your churning out.
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by Bohemian is back on October 23rd, 2008
The Bible is secretaried by men and women, God-authored, to a very wicked ( and unrepentive ) mankind. I haven't "seen" Him physically,yet I know He's there.
THe logic is Mr. is that it started out perfect. Unison with God, His will, with us. It was complete. Satan hated this, so in order to shift this relationship over to him, all he needed to do was set up a lie and get them to believe it. This is where he derives his power. And as powerful as he may be, he has no real foundation, because his power comes from the lie that he is god.
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by andthenitsgone on October 23rd, 2008
He is but a created being, like you and me. When Eve, then Adam and satan were cursed, mankind from then on have to wrestle with the poor desision Eve, then Adam, made. So here we are in this highly imperfect reality where we're stuck between heaven and hell, all of us. We can get saved and repent and go to heaven, which is what God prefers you and me to do.
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by andthenitsgone on October 23rd, 2008
Well, I think St. Paul was a fraud and a power-hungry freek. He could see the emmense power that Jesus had over people and wanted some of the same for himself.
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by Bohemian is back on October 23rd, 2008
But if we continue to go on with our own selfish will, He has promised to doom these people to hell. He does not lie, that's satans' realm. And so now we're at a time in mans' history like no other, but yet similar to Babylon. This is mans' last chance to rule before Christs' return. We're failing miserably because we're not doing things Gods' way, plain and simple.
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by andthenitsgone on October 23rd, 2008
Well, andthenitsgone, I just hope your not disappointed.
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by Bohemian is back on October 23rd, 2008
We're barreling toward secular communism, but it is highly unnatural. Are you but a number, or do you have a name? In the devils' system, you are but a number. You are property with no rights. No love there.
Your name, your family, comes from God. He wants you to acknowledge Him, He is ready, are you? He is the perfect Dad.
He wants you and me to be men, totally male. Not gay, or androgenous...genderless. And this means hardships. How else is one to grow strong in the truth?
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by andthenitsgone on October 23rd, 2008
Paul was not "power-hungry", on the contrary! Just the opposite, he desired to be totally translucent so you could see Jesus in him! He was a man that once killed Christians, and then wrote much of the new testament. He's a great inspiration.
Love vs. power. Power hungriness is not of God. It is the ones who are willing to serve on the down low, are from Him. Self-sacrifice, this is love.
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by andthenitsgone on October 23rd, 2008
FBG: The only thing I'm disappointed with is myself and the sins I've committed against Him. War between the spirit and the flesh, all of us. When we pursue the things of the spirit, peace, is the result. Obedience to an unseen God, and it WORKS.
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by andthenitsgone on October 23rd, 2008
We've been sold a bill of goods that what you see is all there is. Heck no! We took a wrong turn in Albequerque! You can't go by sight, because you're simply observing the curse, that's it!
The world suffers because of original sin. And we've become so stinking arrogant and "my way! MY way!" as we watch things get worse. But it's not the WHOLE story, it's a piece of Gods' tapestry.
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by andthenitsgone on October 23rd, 2008
When you read the Bible, read with confidence and belief, not "I'm going to find a contradiction in here somewhere! DO you know how many people have tried this in the past?
And He's not going to let you fall, ok? He's got you, step out and believe. Get out of the world, turn off that stinking TV!
It's taking you down a highway to hell anyway.
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by andthenitsgone on October 23rd, 2008
Here's the analogy of the rise of trusting in the serpent:
"Here puppy! Here puppy! Come here! >rub rub rub..pet pet pet<
Nice doggy, niiice doggy! rub rub, pet pet...

KILL DOGGY KILL DOGGY BEAT SLASH STAB KILL KILL KILL!!!!!

Yeah, he's a liar. DOn't trust your eyes.
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by andthenitsgone on October 23rd, 2008
Highly interesting dialogue here. When all is said and done, what it boils down to is whether you believe God loves you or not ( not believing in God at all is the same as not believing he loves you ). It's a matter of choice. That's what is called "free will." Argue it until hell won't have you, the bottom line is, "Does God love me?" All else is window dressing.
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by CaptainHarley adores his life penguin on October 23rd, 2008
1) Are you homosexual? Because if you are I would go and discuss it with a doctor.
2) Have you killed or raped someone? If you haven't you have nothing to worry about. Stop beating yourself up and be happy. Sex is a part of life and everyone partakes in it otherwise they would not be normal.
3) I find your analogy disturbing and that of someone who is deeply disturbed. I suggest you go to a doctor and discuss it with him.
4) I find your speech is not that of a normal, healthy, happy person. I suggest you go to a doctor and ask for some therapy. What you are saying is not normal.
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by Bohemian is back on October 23rd, 2008
If you have an issue with your father you should discuss it with a therapist.
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by Bohemian is back on October 23rd, 2008
Let me try again. HELLOHH! Highly interesting dialogue here. When all is said and done, what it boils down to is whether you believe God loves you or not ( not believing in God at all is the same as not believing he loves you ). It's a matter of choice. That's what is called "free will." Argue it until hell won't have you, the bottom line is, "Does God love me?" All else is window dressing.
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by CaptainHarley adores his life penguin on October 23rd, 2008
Well Captain Harley, that is the healthy way of looking at it. 'Andthenitsgone' is throwing fire and brimstone at us like there's no tomorrow. He's had too much sex by the sounds of things and now wants to be celebate. I think he should join a monestry after therapy or have a good 'bonk' and lighten up. God Bless.;)
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by Bohemian is back on October 23rd, 2008
I see no need to make him feel small or stupid. : (
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by CaptainHarley adores his life penguin on October 23rd, 2008
If you read the commentary above that is exactly what he has tried to do with Mr JDMac and myself. He is not looking at things clearly. And that should be a cause for concern.
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by Bohemian is back on October 23rd, 2008
Why is that? Millions of people don't "look at things clearly," and many millions more do not look at things the same way as either you or I. Does that necessarily make them dangerous?
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by CaptainHarley adores his life penguin on October 23rd, 2008
Who said anything about being dangerous?
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by Bohemian is back on October 23rd, 2008
"Cause for concern" does not equal "dangerous?" Sorry. My bad.
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by CaptainHarley adores his life penguin on October 23rd, 2008
No, he's probably doing more harm to himself than others but may need professional help.
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by Bohemian is back on October 23rd, 2008
Are you a mental health professional??
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by CaptainHarley adores his life penguin on October 23rd, 2008
I am. May I help you?
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by Don Gorgeous George on October 23rd, 2008
LOL! No. Just checking. : )
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by CaptainHarley adores his life penguin on October 23rd, 2008

I agree, so knowing that, I refuse to live according to it.
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by Don Gorgeous George on October 18th, 2008
I don't follow it and don't accept it as a reference, but there are good bits. I think the golden rule is good. It didn't originate in the bible, but its being there doesn't detract from its goodness.
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by MrJosh on October 18th, 2008
I agree that the bible has good bits. I do think that Aesop's fables have even more wisdom though. All of the ancient stories have some value. All of the old mythologies, regardless of origin, give excellent insights into the human condition at the time as well as contain information about basic human behaviors. I only wish that so much old religion had not been destroyed or adulterated by Christianity.
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by science_geek on October 18th, 2008
Seriously, it was all done for control. I think I will check out Aesop's fables. It sounds cool. Is there any correlation with the hiphop group called Aesop Rock?
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by Don Gorgeous George on October 18th, 2008
Not that I know of, I have never heard of them.
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by science_geek on October 18th, 2008

I used to be a christian. I came to find out that when you think that God does something because he knows best, really it's just the way things naturally happen. There is no God outside of your imagination and the imaginations of others who believe in God. Believe me, I studied the bible, prayed, attended church, and tried very hard to please God. It was all for nothing. I finally realized that things just happen and there is no God behind any of it. Once I fully realized the truth of there being no God, not just out of christian rebellion but from a clear rational mind, I felt liberated for the first time in 7 years. Life is much better now. Best of luck in your life journey.
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by Don Gorgeous George on October 24th, 2008

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