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I agree.The only thing China is good at in business, is creating cheap stuff without any guarantee and pumping those into world market.I never go for those stuffs.Globalization has it's plus and it's negetives, but seems like negetives are overwhelming because of deeds like this.
by engineer is Terminator on April 21st, 2010
China isn't "Communist", it's just a one party dictatorship that calls itself communist. To call it "Communist" is like calling a deer a duck - modern China has very few communistic practices left in place.
Nazi Germany called itself "Socialist", and it wasn't. Self labeled descriptions on nations are usually quite inaccurate and misleading.
by Nightwatchdog on April 21st, 2010
either way, how every you want to call it, China stifles, innovation, because it stifles freedom. your point is moot Nightwatchdog.
by NuevoYorican on April 21st, 2010
Sorry - my point is never "moot". And neither is yours for that matter - freedom - and this includes creative freedom can flourish under any political regime if those who create actually like the system they live under.
It's when the state stops the freedom of expression and people feel oppressed personally that individual creativity seems to diminish in peoples minds.
China now promotes innovation and creativity while maintaining tight state controls - and as a result innovation especially in consumer products is advancing at a rapid pace there.
I dislike the Chinese government - but those who run that government are not fools...they can manipulate the population very well indeed. It's in our own "free society" where innovation is dying because we as a people feel no real attachment or particular loyalty to our own nation and people.
Freedom is a funny thing - you either feel it or you don't and this feeling is a transitory one... don't be so ready to dismiss the "feeling of being free from the actual state of being free".
China rewards innovation - so people innovate - that's the system they have and it works for them.....lets not be cultural snobs or misled by old propaganda - China will be a nation to be reckoned with in the future.
by Nightwatchdog on April 21st, 2010
great
by ambeeris on April 22nd, 2010
You still think China is communist? Have you been in a coma since the 80s? LOL too funny.
by Pleski on April 22nd, 2010
In China, people are told where to live.
In China, people are told how many kids they can have before they are taxed.
In China, the governement dictates how much they can get paid.
In China, if you dont have a job, the government will find one for you.
In China, they repress information.
China has had 50 years already to reform and make themselves a capital of innovation. It has yet to happen.
All of these are facts...
Just because you have 1/4 of the human population it doesnt mean that you will be a great innovative country. The opposite happens when you are dealing with so many people, they have stifling control over everything. A country that eats mans best friend for lunch can never be a friend to humanity. Their resources are too limited, and their political system is too stifling to allow for true innovation.
If you want to set up an assembly line it is the perfect place because everyone is bred with the spirit of cooperation...
You need to be open to all ideals, be able to debate all ideas, in such a society you will find the greatest innovations.
by NuevoYorican on April 22nd, 2010
I don't think China is stifling innovation, they are just controlling what the content is. This is why Google is on the way out and why I've made a fortune off of Baidu.......
by R U Sirius on April 22nd, 2010
Funny. I was convinced that the first man-made satellite and the first guy in space were Russian.
And the most successful assault weapon ever...
And several other achievements that come to mind.
I'm not saying socialism (communism doesn't exist anywhere on a national scale) is superior but it's a mistake to make a blanket statement like that.
Besides, dunno if you've noticed but China has many zones that are more free market that the US hope ever to be.
by 23Skidoo on April 23rd, 2010
funny how all those accomplishments were based on stolen technology.
by NuevoYorican on April 23rd, 2010
Stolen? From Germany? Like the US's rocket program? :-)
And where was the AK-47 stolen from?
by 23Skidoo on April 23rd, 2010
yep, you proved my point exactly; The AK-47 is best described as a hybrid of previous rifle technology innovations: the trigger, double locking lugs and unlocking raceway of the M1 Garand/M1 carbine,[12] the safety mechanism of the John Browning designed Remington Model 8 rifle,[13] and the gas system and layout of the Sturmgewehr 44. Kalashnikov's team had access to all of these weapons and had no need to "reinvent the wheel". also yes the US rocket program got a jumpstart with Von Braun rocket designs and help. As was the case with the soviets who stole these designs after the war... They used jet technology from Britain to power their Migs... read a little more my little padawan, and perhaps you will undestand that true innovation comes from free thinking.
But what differs here significantly is that the US innovations include small things like nuclear energy, remote controls and heart transplants... We also invented a little called the airplane and the gas powered automobile which changed the world... communism did help our efforts in getting into space because it was proof that if our rockets could safely reach the moon, we could safely reach Moscow at anytime.
Wake up and smell the freedom. China will never have the innovations that the USA or other industrialized free nations have come up with. Their culture prevents it.
by NuevoYorican on April 23rd, 2010
Do you know how to read? Did you apply that skill to my post?
Go ahead... try it one more time.
Do you actually believe all those things innovated in the US solely by US brains, innovation and freedom?
by 23Skidoo on April 24th, 2010
Let me put it in terms you will understand 234kidoo.... as braveheart said... FREEEEEDDDDooooommm
by NuevoYorican on April 24th, 2010
Okie Dokie
by 23Skidoo on April 24th, 2010
i can see some serious xenophobia in your answer
i don't think you even know what communism is
usa's school administrators are so stupid and warmonger
by SwinFlu on April 25th, 2010
Swine -
I think th freedom comment is funny, myself. Such an obvious product of propaganda it's hard to tell whether is laughable or just sad.
This from someone who's parents and uncles lived through WWII - the propaganda then and who himself lived through the socialist era and saw that propaganda first hand.
Funny how Chinese businesses are free from so many things US ones aren't - like high employee costs, safety and environmental regulation, and all that. They are also free to enjoy double digit growth - even while the rest of the world was (is?) in recession.
But Freeeeedoooom answers all. :-) As Gobbles (roughly) said, Repeat something enough times and it becomes the truth.
by 23Skidoo on April 25th, 2010
FREEEEEEDDDDDDdddoooooommmmmm....
I can say what I want about the government without fear of being picked up.
Tiananmen square skidmark, read about it learn and you may feel the force of intellectualism and freedom being one and the same.
Intellectuals anti communist, pro democracy protested against the government... and many were arrested and killed because of their involvement.
You are very naive to think that free thinking and innovation do not go and in hand....
Learn more about China and their lack of freedom here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square_protests_of_1989
They killed and arrested some of the best and brightest minds in the country... A country like that views knowledge as a dangerous thing and tries to limit it, (read more about Google and China).
I know Chinese Americans, that refuse to buy chinese made electronics, because they know that China does not manufacture to the best known standards.
Put a blinder on your face, and still dont know where you are skidmark. Learn about the power of free thinking... since you lack any true understanding of what that means to be like what Braveheart believed in... FREEEEEEeddddddoom
by NuevoYorican on April 25th, 2010
Nuevo,
You really don't read, do you? I never said any of the things you seem to feel i did.
The fact that you keep repeating something a highly fictionalized character said in a movie (and his name wasn't Braveheart, BTW - that was the name of the movie and movies can't believe anything) show me how deep the propaganda has worked it's magic in your case.
China is an oppressive regime to most of it's people. It IS politically closed - again... true enough.
But it also has vast economic zones in which 10's of millions of people live and can get very, very rich. The Chinese have plans on their roadmap to go to the moon in order to mine H3 which could be crucial to fusion generation of power - something no other country is doing. They may or may not succeed but at this point no one else is even trying.
What I said - and what you seem to have blinded yourself to with your Braveheart School of Innovation is that it's a mistake to think of the world in such absolute terms: capitalism = good and free = technological innovation possible ; socialism = bad and suppressed = tech innovation impossible.
With that attitude you will underestimate your enemy all the way to your mandatory Chinese Language class.
by 23Skidoo on April 26th, 2010