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by PanikLIji on December 17th, 2008

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Speaking of Melee-weapons: If two different weapons meet each other in fight, normally the longer one wins (Long sword against short sword... it's obvious). But do you think this principe changes at some point? Give me examples.

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  • by Langenschwert on December 17th, 2008

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    While nothing is certain in combat, the English swordsman George Silver, had the following to say:

    The single sword has the vantage against the single rapier.
    The sword and dagger has the vantage against the rapier and poniard.
    The sword & target has the advantage against the sword and dagger, or the rapier and poniard.
    The sword and buckler has advantage against the sword and target, the sword and dagger, or rapier and poniard.
    The two handed sword has the vantage against the sword and target, the sword and buckler, the sword and dagger, or rapier and poniard.
    The battle axe, the halberd, the black-bill, or such like weapons of weight, appertaining unto guard or battle, are all one in fight, and have advantage against the two handed sword, the sword and buckler, the sword and target, the sword and dagger, or the rapier and poniard.
    The short staff or half pike, forest bill, partisan, or glaive, or such like weapons of perfect length, have the advantage against the battle axe, the halberd, the black bill, the two handed sword, the sword and target, and are too hard for two swords and daggers, or two rapier and poniards with gauntlets, and for the long staff and morris pike.
    The long staff, morris pike, or javelin, or such like weapons above the perfect length, have advantage against all manner of weapons, the short staff, the Welch hook, partisan, or glaive, or such like weapons of vantage excepted, yet are too weak for two swords and daggers or two sword and bucklers, or two rapiers and poniards with gauntlets, because they are too long to thrust, strike, and turn speedily. And by reason of the large distance, one of the sword and dagger-men will get behind him.
    The Welch hook or forest bill, has advantage against all manner of weapons whatsoever. Yet understand, that in battles, and where variety of weapons are, among multitudes of men and horses, the sword and target, the two handed sword, battle axe, the black bill, and halberd, are better weapons, and more dangerous in their offense and forces, than is the sword and buckler, short staff, long staff, or forest bill. The sword and target leads upon shot, and in troops defends thrusts and blows given by battle axe, halberds, black bill, or two handed swords, far better than can the sword and buckler.
    The morris pike defends the battle from both horse and man, much better than can the short staff, long staff, or forest bill.
    Again the battle axe, the halberd, the black bill, the two handed sword, and sword & target, among armed men and troops, by reason of their weights, shortness, and great force, do much more offend the enemy, & are then much better weapons, than is the short staff, the long staff, or the forest bill.

    It's a pretty exhaustive summation, and most people find it to be very accurate.

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      Takei-Shihan

      by Takei-Shihan on December 17th, 2008

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      by Japan on February 22nd, 2010

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