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But isn't one of the the pupose of incarceration/probation/etc. to have them pay their "debt to society"?
as far as "a felon is a felon"-do you actually feel that a 60 year old who embezzles $25,000 for his child's medical bills should be treated the same as someone who seriously wounds (we're leaving of homocides here)someone while committing a crime?
by Possum on April 18th, 2008
Yes, I have watched my own parents struggle the past four years due to the shaft we call medical care but you do not see us out there breaking the law. The rules of the game are simple. You play you pay. You have a choice whether to become a felon or not. I have friends who are felons and they knew what they were getting into and took those chances. I stand by my opinion and the negative ratings will not change that.
by Snooch on April 18th, 2008
i certainly didn't rate you and personally i don't know why anyone ever cares about ratings.
but in my opinion saying that a "one size fits all" approach to this question is pretty short-sighted.
by the way, i'm really sorry about your parents and they might want to try and get some help in working things out with the healthcare/insurance providers-there are ways.
by Possum on April 18th, 2008
I think you should re-read my answer in regards to your "one size fits all". I think every avenue has been taken for my parents and the many patients that I visit each month going through the same thing. You will be surprised in your golden years if things do not change. Our system is letting people die. Money talks still in this country. I hope things change, for all of us. Peace
by Snooch on April 18th, 2008
i asked whether an elderly non-violent felon should be treated the same as a young violent on and i interpreted your "The rules of the game are simple" as meaning yes. Does it mean no?
i probably understand the shortcomings of the healthcare system better than you realize-and visting "many patients" does not qualify as getting some professional advice.
the american healthcare system is a national desgrace and unbeleavable to folks in the vast majority of the world.
by Possum on April 18th, 2008
Yes, I do feel if you break the law and are in your right mind, the punishment should be the same. There are other ways to fight a system, even dramatic ways. Breaking the law to get what you need will show others to do the same, we cannot have that. It is your opinion on what I see out in the field. You seem to think there is a magical button one will eventually find if they keep probing but that is not true. Many of our elderly sit without medications that keep them alive because they are indigent. On our system being a disgrace, we agree. Our system kills people.
by Snooch on April 19th, 2008
i don't know how you got this on to healthcare, with is worthy of an entire section of it's own, but i just can't believe that third world countries like cuba have better healthcare systems than we.
by Possum on April 19th, 2008
Me either. It is unreal. I got onto it because I could see people doing desperate things in regards to the lack of care as you used s an example in your first comment.
by Snooch on April 19th, 2008
"got into it"-you mean on the thread or are you somehow professionally involved
by Possum on April 19th, 2008
Onto it as in responding to your comment if it were a 60 year old who embezzeled for his child's medical bills. I could understand the desire to want to do something desperate but I still would not condone it. It would open the door for others to break the law because their reasoning would be just as passionate to them.
by Snooch on April 19th, 2008
of course you wouldn't condone it. but would permanently taking away the right to vote or have a passport (can't even go to canada)make a straighten out non-violent ex-convict a better person or help society in any way?
by Possum on April 19th, 2008
I typed too much so it went poof. I have a friend who cannot own a firearm because of something he did when he was younger. Great guy, law abiding .. etc. I hate it for him because he regrets a youthful and wild past. If you are looking to change the law to where it all is not under one bracket push for a bill for it. I support the way our laws are written for the most part. They do deter a lot. I do not rob banks to make life easier for me because I know I am accountable for my actions and do not want the punishment I could be given.
by Snooch on April 19th, 2008
I had bought an airsoft bb gun an on my way home someone said I had a gun so the police arrested me. The gun was in its original case with reseet stapled to it. I plead guilty so I could get out of jail I was 19 & didnt have bail money (3500). All the witness statements said I was just walking with a bag. After I plead guilty the JUDGE literaly laughed and said "we had nothing on you there was no victim statement" I took an F6 for that and die to the nature of it I cannot appeal. What do u think of THAT?
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