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by ShawnPatrick on January 31st, 2007
Is hard cover or leather best for a bible?
by Answerbag Staff on April 8th, 2010
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I guess everyone knows the name of Jesus. But what do people believe about Him? For example,below are some ideas I wonder about at times:
by readdear on April 15th, 2012
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How did Jesus pay for people's sins? Did he use a credit card, a check, or did he pull out his Holy Wallet?
by mrinsane7066 on April 28th, 2012
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Why am i losing my faith in god? I had a strong faith but now it is going away and i am realizing that god seems outrageous.
by DaveyRay on April 23rd, 2012
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What really is 'speaking in tongues'?
http://genealogyreligion.net/cross-cultural-glossolalia-babeling
by aldonoir on April 15th, 2012
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You're reading Using only the Hebrew Bible, can you provide your input into why you believe Yeshua Ben Yosef (Jesus) was/is the Jewish Messiah?
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I take it that you've never heard of Jews for Jesus..........http://www.jewsforjesus.org/
by mac1896 on January 31st, 2007
sorry, should've put @ShawnPatrick
by mac1896 on January 31st, 2007
I love simple answers that get straight to the point - so 3 points. However, the question does not ask for concrete evidence. So its looknig for interpretation. Unfortunately I dont know enough about the Jewish Bible to be able to answer myself. But your answer is better than anything I could have put.
by cambsman on February 4th, 2007
ShawnPatrick: Consider this, ... almost EVERY Jewish prophet was MURDERED BY THE JEWS! ... it was only in hindsight that their words were believed to be prophetic. The Apostle Paul (a former Jewish Pharisee) quotes Isaiah 6:9-10 in reference to WHY the Jews did not accept Christ Jesus as their Messiah. "FOR THE HEART OF THIS PEOPLE HAS BECOME DULL, AND WITH THEIR EARS THEY SCARCELY HEAR, AND THEY HAVE CLOSED THEIR EYES; OTHERWISE THEY MIGHT SEE WITH THEIR EYES, AND HEAR WITH THEIR EARS, AND UNDERSTAND WITH THEIR HEART AND RETURN, AND I WOULD HEAL THEM." - Acts 28:27 ... therefore, Christ Jesus WAS and IS the Messiah. Thank you.
by brian_griffith on February 4th, 2007
Unfortunately Brian just because something is in the Bible - (I only have access to King James version) - it does not make it a fact. Which is a good job too as I think even you would struggle with Deuteronomy 22 Verses 28 and 29. (Althoguh the whole of Deutronomy has some pretty wierd stuff).
[28] If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
[29] Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
The Ten commandments are a good moral code to live by. (OK so I wont beleive...). Other bits of the Bible - are difficult to justify.
Oops I dont want to go into Bible bashing but if you just wuote it and say thats it fact because it is written in your bible.... (Then of course what scrolls do you choose for yours?). PS Romans killed Jesus but I thought Jews were also blamed.
by cambsman on February 4th, 2007
nevets: "Jesus was murdered by the Romans, not the Jewish people." ... WHERE did I say that Jesus was murdered by the Jews?! I didn't say that! I was commenting on ShawnPatrick's comment "... otherwise the Jewish people would have already accepted him." ... the Jews didn't accept MOST of their prophets ... until AFTER they murdered them ... so why would you expect the Jews to accept their Messiah?! ... cambsman: I am not sure that I understand your overall point! ... This question assumes the validity of the Holy Scriptures ... so why don't we continue that debate on another question?!
by brian_griffith on February 4th, 2007
Brian - "The question assumes the validity...". I have to admit you win on that one and I lose re my last comments.
by cambsman on February 4th, 2007
nevets: I understand what you are saying ... but I NEVER said that the Jews killed Christ Jesus ... it is quite obvious that the Roman soldiers were responsible for that ... the Jews DID, however, ... according to the Gospels ... CONDEMN Christ Jesus ... since Pontius Pilate did NOT want to. "... almost EVERY Jewish prophet was MURDERED BY THE JEWS!" ... isn't that true?! Thank you.
by brian_griffith on February 4th, 2007
Just watched a very interesting program claiming that Jesus was crucified but did not die on the cross. He died around AD 80 in Kashmir as Yus Assaf. It implied that the disciple never said he was resurrected -only that they came to see him and had assumed he had died. Interesting to me. But so many stories...
by cambsman on February 4th, 2007
Just remember that he was speared in the side as well as crucified. Also, the Roman soldiers, in order to speed up their deaths, broke the legs of the other two who were crucified with Him, but when they came to Jesus, they saw that he was already dead, so did not break His legs......Roman soldiers took their orders very seriously. They had to, as failing to carry out their orders would result in severe punishment (usually death), so they would've made certain that he was dead.
by mac1896 on February 4th, 2007
cambsman: mac1896 is absolutely right! If a Roman soldier were to allow ANY prisoner to remain alive on the cross ... THEY would have been crucified themselves ... so they MADE SURE that their victims were ABSOLUTELY DEAD! ... Also, note that when the Roman soldier pierces Christ Jesus' side ... that blood and water came out. "But one of the soldiers pierced His side with a spear, and immediately blood and water came out." - John 19:34 ... this, in modern science, is known as as complete collapse of the heart ... and ALWAYS results in death. So ... the theory of Christ Jesus surviving the scourging and crucifixion CANNOT be possible. Therefore, Christ Jesus DIED upon the cross ... and was a sin offering for us. PRAISE JESUS! HALLELUIAH. Thank you.
by brian_griffith on February 4th, 2007
nevets: Christianity was adopted into Roman culture as the official religion of the empire by the emperor Constantine in the year 313 A.D. ... it wasn't/isn't CHRISTIANITY that was/is wrong ... but rather WHAT PEOPLE DID/DO with Christianity that was/is wrong! The presence of un-authentic Christians is not the presence of a false religion ... I, a Christian, apologize FOR THEM ... NO ONE should mutilate the love of God and the love of Christ into becoming a reason for war and bloodshed. ... Keep in mind, though, that Christianity was also considered to be a "revolutionary Jewish movement." ... Thank you.
by brian_griffith on February 5th, 2007
steven: Do you mean ... in referrence to the statement: "almost EVERY Jewish prophet was MURDERED BY THE JEWS!"?! ... Thank you.
by brian_griffith on February 5th, 2007
my name isn't Brian
by ShawnPatrick on February 5th, 2007
ShawnPatrick: that's funny! ... nevets: YES Steven ... I will collect the Hebrew Bible verses for you ... and post them here! Thank youl.
by brian_griffith on February 5th, 2007
If you want a good site to view and find all kinds of answers... go to ----> http://www.jewfaq.org/toc.htm .. best site I know of. I use it often. Let me know what you think of it... both of you.
by ShawnPatrick on February 5th, 2007
Did you also know the there was a sharp pointed stick that was affixed to the cross where the victim was placed on.. (inserted into the rectum for support of the body) Talk about torture!!!
by ShawnPatrick on February 5th, 2007
ShawnPatrick & nevets: People who were crucified USUALLY died from asphyxiation ... or drowning ... that is why they [Roman soldiers] would have to break the legs of their victims ... so they wouldn't be able to stretch themselves out to breath (because their lungs would be filling up with fluids) ... and therefore they would drown! ... on top of being nailed to a cross and tortured! ... yeah it was pretty bad! THANK YOU CHRIST JESUS! Amen. Thank you.
by brian_griffith on February 5th, 2007
Brian & Nevets... I don't think that the average person has really thought of the manner of crucifixion and the details of it. I would have to guess that churches don't make their congegation aware of the facts. From what I have seen n heard... they only tell us that Jesus died on the cross for our sins. Is that much of an impact on the congegration.. I think not. Your replies are welcomed.
by ShawnPatrick on February 5th, 2007
Do you guys know of the 613 Jewish laws?... Read On ----> http://www.jewfaq.org/613.htm
by ShawnPatrick on February 6th, 2007
YES.. I have known about, "Jews for Jesus" ... I have read some of their liturature
by ShawnPatrick on February 6th, 2007
Any comments about the Kabbala?.. or see http://www.jewishinfo.org/ to discover
by ShawnPatrick on February 6th, 2007
ShawnPatrick: "I would have to guess that churches don't make their congregation aware of the facts." ... My Pastor spent an entire sermon outlining Roman crucifixion ... "From what I have seen and heard ... they only tell us that Jesus died on the cross for our sins. Is that much of an impact on the congregation.. I think not." ... But that is the MOST important part ... SO WHAT if he was crucified?! ... It doesn't matter HOW Christ Jesus died (although Christ Jesus HAD to die in the manner that he did in order to fulfill the prophecies about his [the Messiah] sacrificial death!) ... what matters is WHY he died! "for our sins"! "that much of an impact on the congregation ..." I THINK SO! ... "Jews for Jesus" ... or otherwise known as "completed Jews" are Jews who have accepted Christ Jesus as their Messiah. Although God does not show favoritism ... the Jews are God's people ... and Gentiles are GRAFTED into God's family THROUGH Christ Jesus ... so when a Jew accepts Christ Jesus ... it is a very special thing! ... because he is THEIR Messiah (as a people) ... "Any comments about the Kabala?" ... from what I know and understand ... Kabala is a Jewish mysticism cult ... which focuses on "energy" ... and other new age cultic ideas ... Thank you.
by brian_griffith on February 6th, 2007
Shawn: the argument "otherwise the Jewish people would have already accepted him " is not a valid one. On the Day of Pentecost, 3000 Jews alone accepted him (Acts 2), then look through the Book of Acts to see how many other mass turnings to Christ there were. Most of the early Church was Jewish, and congregations formed out of synagogues from Jerusalem to Rome and beyond by the mid 1st century.
Yes, not all Jewish people accepted Jesus, but not all Jewish people followed God faithfully in the Hebrew Bible/ Old Testament, either. There are many many times when God speaks through the Prophets and says that He cannot find faithful people amongst those who are supposed to be. Even the priests get slammed over and over again for their oppression and their following other gods. Consistently, the Lord speaks of "a remnant". A remnant is saved to form the nucleus for a new people. Just as in the return from Babylon: a remnant came back. Others did not. So, a remnant of Israel turned to Christ
by singwell-is off researching a lot on June 21st, 2007