by Music-of-Love on October 14th, 2011

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Is Matthew 13: 34 referring to Psalm 78:2?

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  • by Perryman on October 15th, 2011
    voted: Yes

    Perryman

    Yes, indeed it is.

    Jesus teaching with illustrations fulfilled prophecy.

    At Matthew 13:34, 35, we read: “Jesus spoke to the crowds by illustrations. Indeed, without an illustration he would not speak to them; that there might be fulfilled what was spoken through the prophet who said: ‘I will open my mouth with illustrations.’”

    The prophet mentioned by Matthew was the writer of Psalm 78:2.
    That psalmist wrote under the inspiration of God’s spirit centuries before Jesus’ birth

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    • Perryman, I don’t know what version of the text you are quoting from, but according to many versions of that text, there is a contrast in Matthew 13:34 and what Psalm 78 is saying. Love, MOL

      Music-of-Love

      by Music-of-Love on October 16th, 2011

    • I was quoting from the New World Translation.
      I was not aware of any "controversy" concerning the connection of these two verses.

      Perryman

      by Perryman on October 17th, 2011

    • "illustrations"

      Illustration means: "The act of clarifying or explaining.
      b. The state of being clarified or explained.
      2. Material used to clarify or explain.
      3. Visual matter used to clarify or decorate a text.
      4. Obsolete Illumination."

      The version you posted is a mistranslation of the script.

      Music-of-Love

      by Music-of-Love on October 21st, 2011

    • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable

      "..A parable is [1] a succinct story, in prose or verse, which illustrates one or more instructive principles, or lessons, or (sometimes) a normative principle..."

      "..The word "parable" comes from the Greek παραβολή (parabolē), meaning "comparison, illustration, analogy".[4].."

      Texasescimo

      by Texasescimo on October 21st, 2011

    • "The disciples came to him and asked, “Why do you speak to the people in parables?” He replied, “Because the knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. 12 Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. This is why I speak to them in parables: “Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand. In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah: “You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving. For this people’s heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes.
      Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears,
      understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them."

      Parabolē:a comparing, comparison of one thing with another, likeness, similitude, an example by which a doctrine or precept is illustrated, a narrative, fictitious but agreeable to the laws and usages of human life, by which either the duties of men or the things of God, particularly the nature and history of God's kingdom are figuratively portrayed, a parable: an earthly story with a heavenly meaning, a pithy and instructive saying, involving some likeness or comparison and having preceptive or admonitory force.

      Illustration means to make clear. Jesus sure wasn't making anything clear (the disciples clearly saw this). But the issue here is whether Matthew 13:34 is talking about Psalms 78:2

      Music-of-Love

      by Music-of-Love on October 26th, 2011

    • http://www.publicspeakingtip.org/speaking-qualities/illustrations.php



      (Matthew 13:34-35) All these things Jesus spoke to the crowds by illustrations. Indeed, without an illustration he would not speak to them; 35 that there might be fulfilled what was spoken through the prophet who said: “I will open my mouth with illustrations, I will publish things hidden since the founding.”

      (Psalm 78:1-5) Do give ear, O my people, to my law; Incline YOUR ear to the sayings of my mouth.  2 In a proverbial saying I will open my mouth; I will cause riddles of long ago to bubble forth,  3 Which we have heard and know, And which our own fathers have related to us;  4 Which we do not hide from their sons, Relating [them] even to the generation to come, The praises of Jehovah and his strength And his wonderful things that he has done.  5 And he proceeded to raise up a reminder in Jacob, And a law he set in Israel, Things that he commanded our forefathers, To make them known to their sons;


      I don't think he was necessarily quoting what was written verbatim. Is that what you are having a problem with?

      Texasescimo

      by Texasescimo on October 26th, 2011

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