• Oh, bruther! One of these days, I'm gonna take it upon myself to start preaching a gospel...
  • I believe that you are reading something into it that isn't there. I believe that Christ said that He will not require sacrifice for His grace, and Paul was alluding to the fact that Christ sacrificed Himself for all of us. The two go together well. Just my two cents.
  • "Nogod4me" every 1 on this site knos that u make it abundantly clear that ur an athiest. No 1 is gonna judge u 4 that here, but seriously, the people asking questions in the religion category probably believe in their religion! Ur not trying to help people ur just slandering Christianity every chance u get. B an adult, stick to questions that u could have useful input n, and quit with the non sense. Theres no reason 4 u 2 b taking part n this question. This is question about scripture. Move along. U seem 2 b answering every religious question with the same hateful ignorant rhetoric. U take a whole lot of interest in religion 4 a non believer.
    • Jewels Vern
      f u cn rd ths u cn gt a btr jb & mo pa in cptr prgmng
  • It is quite interesting how for years, we've believed that Paul taught/preached the "Gospel" of Jesus. But, in fact, this doesn't seem to be the case. Consider the fact that Paul NEVER quotes any of Jesus' teachings/ parables, directly or indirectly. Notice how Jesus would quote directly from the old testament?; because the authority of his teachings came from those books. On the other hand, Paul's doctrine cannot be found in the words of Jesus, therefore, he is speaking not on the authority of Jesus, but on the authority of his own doctrine. If you would like in depth proof of my statements, you can contact me at, and I will furnish you with extensive material to aid you in your journey. Hopefully, it will be of some help to you.
    • Nick Batchelor
      How did the apostles feel about Paul?
  • "Jackpipe30" is absolutely correct in the explenation of the scriptures in her answer. But as 4 "ZEBULON"'s questioning Pauls authority, and the doctrine he preached he is totally incorrect in saying Pauls authority came from his own doctrine. Pauls authority came from Jesus Christ. Paul was 1 of the Apostles of Christ. Cemented on the road to Demascus. The fundamentals of Christ's doctrine is in all of Pauls works in The Bible. Paul wrote letters of counsel and encouragement 2 the people of Christ all based on Christ's teaching. It is of Christs authority and teachings that Paul worked.
  • I don't think there is a conflict between the two. Jesus spoke a gospel of the Kingdom that opened the possibility of life change. That is what "repent" means. It is a message of hope under a new inner government, the Kingdom within us. Then, He acted on that call and removed all obstacles by laying down His life. Paul interpreted that, I think faithfully, in Greek, to a Greek speaking world and mindset. It was not shocking that their emphases might seem different because they used different metaphors and language for different audiences. I believe that Paul sought to preach the gospel of Jesus and apply it, but for balance, we need a new and deeper understanding of the specific teachings of Jesus as well.
  • There is no enigma here. : ) Paul said "Christ died for our sins", also in 1 Tim 2:5b,6 he wrote "...,Christ Jesus, who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all,..." Jesus said, Matthew 20:28,"...the Son of man came, not to be ministered to, but to minister and to give his soul a ransom in exchange for many" Jesus was clear, that he was giving up his life to buy back ours. The e-book "Gospel Enigma" quotes his remarks, recorded at Matthew 9:13. Let's look at the context. Matthew 9:11-13 "But on seeing this the Pharisees began to say to his disciples: "Why is it that your teacher eats with tax collectors and sinners?" Hearing [them], he said: "Persons in health do not need a physician, but the ailing do. Go, THEN, and learn what this means, 'I want mercy, and not sacrifice.' For I came to call, not righteous people, but sinners." Jesus was addressing the Pharisees, who would were condemning him for socializing with 'sinners', people whom they regarded with disdain. Jesus was there to instruct these people, something their religious leaders SHOULD have been doing. But these Pharisees sought to prove their righteousness through a STRICT adherence to the "Mosaic Law". This adherence involved the paying of 'tithes', observing of religious festivals and the offering of a variety of SACRIFICES. Jesus was referencing to the passage of scripture found in Proverbs 21:3 "To carry on righteousness and judgement is more preferable to Jehovah than sacrifice." Mercy and love shown to our fellowman, (something the Pharisees did not practice), is far more valuable in God's eyes than 'sacrifices'. In those days "sacrifices" were of animals, crops and other valuables. I suppose today that would be money donated for religious purposes.
    • Nick Batchelor
      Nice expressions
  • No Jesus was speaking of the animal and other sacrifices required under Old Testament Law. He is interpreting that Law by stating that righteousness and justice is the true "sacrifice" or observance under the Law. In dying on the cross Jesus made himself the fulfillment of all sacrifices under the law thus the culmination and end of the practice of sacrifice.
  • You have it the wrong way round...Jesus had died before Paul experienced his ' conversion' on the road...up till then, Paul, as Saul, was a persecutor of Christians... Paul was blinded for a while then realized what he was doing wrong...and became the Christian leader...
  • 12-17-2016 You should not let people tell you what the bible says. Paul never said any such thing. Paul did say that sins don't matter any more. Very few Christians know that, but it's right there in the book of Romans. People quote the bible without bothering to read what it actually says. [Matthew 9:11 And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners? 12 But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick. 13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.] The meaning is different when you read the entire passage and recall that Jesus was a Jew speaking to Jews and Paul was a Christian speaking to Christians.
    • pugwashjw65
      Jesus was not teaching [ continuing] Jewish tradition...He was starting Christian values...
  • What you read might have to be revised again. Isn't what the religious block do?
  • It happens... people read in to things what they want things to mean. Obviously this Gospel Enigma is out to find fault. You can twist and turn anything for gain. For I desire mercy and not sacrifice: At this time, God's people were still good at bringing sacrifice (Hosea 5:6). But they had forsaken mercy, and they abandoned mercy because they gave up the knowledge of God and truth (Hosea 4:1). God would rather have right hearts, full of truth and mercy than sacrifice. i. Jesus twice quoted this passage of Hosea to the religious leaders of His day (Matthew 9:13 and 12:7). They also missed the heart of God, focusing on the wrong and superficial things. c. And the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings: Israel brought animals for sacrifice, but they never brought themselves as a living sacrifice (Romans 12:1). They missed what God really wants: a deep, close relationship with Him.
  • Paul came after Jesus, in fact Jesus had already been crucified before He called on Paul. True enough, Jesus saved us from our sin but He did even more. When Jesus arose from the grave He abolished the Old Testament Law of God. He gave us a new law, The Law of Love. Those whom believe in Him are saved by grace. If one does not believe in Jesus Christ then they are still under the Old Testament Law of which no man (or woman) can fulfill. A true Christian is not subject to the 10 Commandments as they are part of the Old Testament Law. True Christians are subject to the two Commandments of Jesus Christ found in Matthew 22:36-40.
    • pugwashjw65
      Jesus and his father, Jehovah, do not lover unconditionally...they require a high standard of to stop being a homosexual... This is supported by scripture... (1 Corinthians 6:11) And yet that is what some of you were. But you have been washed clean; you have been sanctified; you have been declared righteous in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and with the spirit of our God. AFTER you stopped.
  • Check your Bible...Paul started off as a persecutor of Christians, AFTER Jesus had been executed...NOT as the question stated... It was Paul who changed and became a supporter....and a leader of the " Christian" sect. [ group] (Acts 9:4, 5) and he fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him:

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