No. A dreadful one. Almost anyone would have been better. Even John Kerry.
I thought his recent speech was very telling. As his support among the public and Congress, and even his own supporters, ebbs away like water through sand, he is calling for more time and better planning, when he should have taken more time and planned better before getting the U.S. involved in this adventure.
More time would have been well spent on letting the UN do its job, as it was doing, four years ago. Better planning would have led him to the same conclusion his father came to in 1990, that the invasion and military occupation of Iraq was an enterprise whose risks far outweighed any possible benefits to either country.
His speech tells, better than any of his many critics could, of the surreal doubletalk so beloved by him. With over 3000 "coalition" deaths and between 55,000 and 355,000 Iraqi deaths since the start of the conflict, with the situation there continuing to spiral out of control, asking for more time now amounts to asking for the clock to turn back. Sadly for all, it can't be done.
I agree with Jim Webb. "The president took us into this war recklessly," said Mr Webb. "We are now, as a nation, held hostage to the predictable - and predicted - disarray that has followed."
Those of us who opposed this war did indeed predict the chaos and misery which it has quite gratuitously caused. The only plus side was the removal of a dictator from power; but in exchange, as well as all the death and destruction, America's reputation is on the floor. Going into this war over WMDs which turned out not to have existed, and over spurious concerns about Iraqi human rights (Iraqis' rights are far far worse now than they ever were under Saddam), makes America look to the world like bullies, and corrupt incompetent bullies at that.
Bush said "And I ask you to support our troops in the field and those on their way"; the best way to support the troops would be to bring them home, intead of sending even more out there to risk death to bolster Bush's delusions. Even Nixon had more political honesty and maturity than this. By sending these additional troops to Iraq, Bush arguably crosses the line from incompetence into outright criminality.
Not just the war but the manner in which it has been fought have been contemptible. The prisoner abuse, the rape and murder of civilians, the bungled terrorist-style execution of the former head of state, and the continuing existence of a modern-day Gulag in Cuba, all play directly into the hands of the very people who Bush claims to oppose, the militant Islamic movements of the world. Remember when Bush invited his military opponents in Iraq to "Bring it on"? Well, it looks like they took him at his word. Nobody else should, ever.
As for his other initiatives on fuel and the like; if these issues had been flagged up as important in 2000, if this had been a policy focus instead of the disastrous boondoggle of the war in Iraq, I would have applauded it. Now it looks like the desperate manoevering of a failed president, swirling in a cesspool of his own stupidity and moral bankruptcy.
Comments
uhg, i couldn't disagree with you more. effective? how so, in plummeting our country in to debt when Clinton worked so hard to make a surplus? great job bush! for killing thousands of innocent American soldiers for his own gains! greta job bush! for making us more of a target for the middle east's hate, wow! EFFECTIVE AS HELL!
by seaofgrass on December 4th, 2006
I am just going by my own observations. My own life has been affected very little by his presidency one way or the other. Everything else is just political rhetoric. Once you've subscribed to this, you stop thinking for yourself and simply repeat what others have told you. Suggesting that someone else could just come in and wipe away all our problems is silly. But say what you like, it's a free country after all.
by SalientAlien on December 4th, 2006
"free" for now, we'll see how long that lasts
by seaofgrass on December 4th, 2006
See, that's what I'm talking about. Someone has told you that scary ol' Bush has come to take all our freedom. For some reason you block out all other ideas and repeat this as loud and often as you can.
by SalientAlien on December 4th, 2006
No, i gain my information for a wide range of sources. Wire tapping, was that a violation of freedom? yes. the fact that our votes are tampered with, a violation of freedom. That Bush passed a torture bill to allow torture for prisoners even without a trial, another prime example. After the whole republican fiasco after the child's book about Cuba in elementary schools, i can see freedom of speech going out the window soon.
by seaofgrass on December 4th, 2006
That's fine, as long as you allow yourself to re-evaluate your opinions as new information is available.
by SalientAlien on December 4th, 2006
You've got a great point here, SalientAlien. He's not the man to blame for all of our issues. My personal leaning is that he has not been a good president, but I still respect him in some ways. I don't think he can possibly screw up this country any more than it already is...and most of that he has zero control over anyway. It's nice to be able to finger him for the failing economy and high gas prices, but the truth is, he's not in charge of those numbers. We are.
by Simply msFortunate on December 4th, 2006
Exactly. It's better to consider what might be done to improve things than to finger point.
by SalientAlien on December 4th, 2006
Yeah, but regardless, this question asked specifically about him, and so finger pointing is indeed called for, granted you share an opinion like mine.
by seaofgrass on December 4th, 2006
True, but it would be nice to hear something constructive.
by SalientAlien on December 4th, 2006
we could post a question for exactly what you'd like to talk about
by seaofgrass on December 4th, 2006
+5 points for stateing an unpopular opinion. I would disagree on somethings but I think we could agree on other things. Either way I think the "haters" go too far sometimes.
by Valparaiso on January 16th, 2007
I couldn't disagree more. The man is a coward, a cheat, a drug addict and a hopeless failure as president. He has racked up ruinous debt and brought international contempt on the country through his murderous and unnecessary war.
by DavidHume on January 25th, 2007
Effective? In what? Completely screwing up the budget, taking away more constitutional righs, and hurting our relations with other countires? In that case, I agree with you.
by zee-ster on February 7th, 2007
Fighting terrorism. We havn't had a terrorist attack in 5 years or so. And don't try and tell me that no one is trying.
by Valparaiso on February 7th, 2007
Hmm. I wonder if you consider no terrorist attacks for 5 years to be worth the roughly 2000 American lives and maybe 30,000 Iraqi lives? The trouble is that this policy plays into the hands of terrorists; each innocent civilian killed creates a new group of angry people, and they're angry at the U.S. and the UK. It's also worth mentioning that there have been plenty of terrorist attacks not in the U.S., notably in London and Madrid.
by DavidHume on February 7th, 2007
I don't think London was organized with a major group it was a bunch of students was it not? And spain can expect more of this now that they have surrendered. BTW I don't agree with the Iraq war, I never did. But I am saying that we havn't had any terrorist attacks on US soil which means he must be doing something right to prevent it thus far.
by Valparaiso on February 7th, 2007
Val: I keep a bottle of Anti-Bear Repellent in my pocket at all times. It's quite a deterrent, believe me. No bear has even came close to me.
by Aristocles on February 27th, 2007
Excuse the sarcasm, but I find that to be a proper analogy. Just because we haven't been attacked doesn't mean that it's because we have thwarted terrorists.
by Aristocles on February 27th, 2007
What about the terroists who wanted to get on the planes in Britian and crash into the US. That was a combined British and American effort. There have been a few arrests. Plus I really don't think Al Queda is going to let up on us when they know they can pull off an attack here.
by Valparaiso on February 27th, 2007
Aristocles, well said. Valparaiso, correlation does not prove causality. There is more terrorism now than there was before 9/11. If you look at Afghanistan for example, the Taleban are coming back. I don't think Al Quaeda is in any way beaten, nor has Osama bin Laden been apprehended. I hope there continues to be no terrorism on the USA's soil, but you have to at least consider the hypothesis that AQ regard Iraq as not just their easiest opportunity to inflict pain on America, but also a breeding ground for new recruits.
by DavidHume on February 27th, 2007
Ok, I've had my quota of this argument for the week, so I'll just pop off my standard provocative fact: last year, 34,000 people were killed by septicemia, the #9 killer in the U.S. This number was completely dwarfed by heart disease (2+ million deaths), and in turn it dwarfs terrorism deaths (0). So let's just get our responses to threats to be somewhat closer to being proportionate to the actual danger, and move on, ok?
by Stableboy on February 27th, 2007
Yeah, let's fight septicemia there so we don't have to fight it here!
by Aristocles on February 27th, 2007
Yes... clearly either we're doing an AMAZING job of preventing terrorism, or a WONDERFUL job of overestimating the threat. Can't figure which, although nobody's searched my shoes today so there may be something I'm not noticing.
by Stableboy on February 27th, 2007
Maybe they searched all of your other shoes when you weren't home.
by Aristocles on February 27th, 2007
HA! Well, it seems clear that if the threat were from something non-human -- a virus perhaps -- we wouldn't be spending so many lives and so much money on it. So it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the fact that the threat has religious-conflict overtones to it may be a contributing factor in our fear and aggression levels. We still haven't really ramped up for the bird flu, which could conceivably wipe out most of the population, or global warming for that matter. We value our threats by how much they piss us off.
by Stableboy on February 27th, 2007
Well said. It's much harder to rally your citizens against an invisible germ than another country with a wholly different god and culture--- even if the real enemies are within the minority of that country.
by Aristocles on February 27th, 2007
oh come on I can't belive you think the bird flu is going to kill us all that is the most ridiculous thing I ever heard. What ever happened to SARS? The last diesease that was gonna kill us all? Or how about West Nile Virus? That was gonna kill us all too. Can't you recognize history repeating itself in the space of 3 or 4 years? And I'm not saying that Bush is a good president or even effective. My argument was just that we havn't had a terrorist attack on US soil since 2001 and since that is an improvement we should therefore say that he has been effective in that regard. I know he's been ineffective in Iraq and things are now looking worse in Afganistan. If you ask me Bush is mostly ineffective but I'm not going to go around like a Bush hater and claim he's the worst president ever because while they may be few he does have some acomplishments to highlight.
by Valparaiso on February 27th, 2007
Name them.
by DavidHume on February 27th, 2007
You raise good points about the germs. I'll give you that. However, I'll still say that terrorism has not decreased whatsoever. And although being a Bush-hater is fashionable, it's also sane. He has done far too many things wrong to brush aside. (An understatement.)
by Aristocles on February 27th, 2007
Just so we're clear: I'm not saying we should ignore the threat of terrorism -- I'm saying we should try to be objective about it as a threat, when compared to other threats. Are we treating it proportionately and rationally, or are we reacting out of anger and fear over 9/11? It seems clear to me that we're doing the latter -- we're pissed off about radical Islam, and that's distorting our assessment of how severe a threat this is. We don't get pissed off at viruses, because they don't disagree with our politics and religion -- we DO get angry at those who disagree with us, as we see here on this thread and on the bag every day. Everyone loves to go on and on about what a terrible threat their opponent is to life on Earth... how God should smite those who hate us. None of that has anything to do with rational threat-mitigation.
by Stableboy on February 27th, 2007
Nah God shouldn't smite anyone, but I think we need to destroy our enemies that are trying to kill us. And trust me almost everyone has a radically different opinion on politics and religion then I do but I don't advocate their death or destruction. Oh and David our economy is back up at least for the time being. I'll give Bush the economy (to the extent which is his responsible which isn't much but a bit) and I'll give Bush that terrorists attacks on this country have been thawarted since 2001. But other then that Afganistan was doing good, now getting worse. Iraq stupid from the beginning and now we're stuck between choosing between our own troops and a violent ethnic cleansing.
by Valparaiso on February 27th, 2007