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by Theby on July 25th, 2008
No, God did.
by Texasescimo on November 23rd, 2009
In line with the principle at 1Cor 15:27-28, it is evident that everything, would be with the exception of himself and God, as he obviously did not create himself or God. The Bible shows that God created Jesus and then through Jesus, he created everything else.
1Cor 15:27-28 For [God] “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that it is with the exception of the one who subjected all things to him. 28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.
(1 Corinthians 8:6) there is actually to us one God the Father, out of whom all things are, and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are, and we through him.
(Hebrews 1:2) has at the end of these days spoken to us by means of a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the systems of things.
(John 1:3) All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence. What has come into existence http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G5565&t=NASB
(John 1:10) He was in the world, and the world came into existence through him, but the world did not know him.
(Colossians 1:15-16) He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him.
(Revelation 3:14) “And to the angel of the congregation in La‧o‧di‧ce′a write: These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God,
(Proverbs 8:22) “Jehovah himself produced me as the beginning of his way, the earliest of his achievements of long ago.
(Proverbs 8:30) then I came to be beside him as a master worker, and I came to be the one he was specially fond of day by day, I being glad before him all the time,
(Genesis 1:26) And God went on to say: “Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness, and let them have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and the domestic animals and all the earth and every moving animal that is moving upon the earth.”
by TERRYTUKER on July 23rd, 2008
does anyone really know this answer
by L. Taylor on November 23rd, 2009
According to THIS scipture, Yes!
John 1:1-3, 14
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2The same was in the beginning with God.
3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
And Jesus is the Word:
14The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
by Tel UK- Licensed to fish! on July 25th, 2008
No. The world and all that is in it, visible and invisible,was created by evolution
by bigdada on July 25th, 2008
I concur with lastwraith,the otter and terrytuker. Religion taken to extremes or out of context can cause many heartaches and wars. If we all can respect each others belief's and rituals no matter how bizzare they may appear to us, faith,hope,and worship will bring us together not keep us separated. Keep the faith.:)
by Universe Of Life on November 23rd, 2009
No ...
I don't say there was no greater power ... I know not!
But Jesus was created and written by man then forced on other men to enable control of the masses through time ...
If you take away mankinds existence, the Universe and Earth would still exist ... yet man's Jesus and his Gods would not ...
Perhaps it is a greater power that calms the Universe, one which is far beyond mankinds acceptance or comprehension of its existence ...
This would be evident from the way mankind treats all life, that of his fellow man and that of Earths other life forms.
No offense intended Jesus.
Peace
by monkeyinaround on November 17th, 2009
No, no, no, it was his Dad!
by ConservativelyLiberal on November 17th, 2009
Assuming jesus ever even lived(there's no proof he did), he was nothing more than a liberal rabbi.
by tabithap5 on July 25th, 2008
The Bible teaches that JESUS lived in heaven before he came to earth. Micah prophesied that the Messiah would be born in Bethlehem and also said that his orgin was "from early times." (Micah 5:2) On many occassions, Jesus himself said that he lived in heaven before being born as a human. (John 3:13; 6:38,62; 17:4,5) As a spirit creature in heaven, Jesus had a special relationship with Jehovah.
Jesus is Jehovah's most precious Son-and for good reason. He is called "the firstborn of all creation," for he was God's first creation.* (Colossians 1:15) There is the "only-begotten Son." (John 3:16) This means that Jesus is the only one whom God used when He created all other things. (Colossians 1:16) Then, too, Jesus is called "the Word." (John 1:14) This tells us that he spoke for God, no doubt delivering messages and instructions to the Father's other sons, both spirit and human.
*Jehovah is called a Father because he is the creator. (Isaiah 64:8) Since Jesus was created by God, He is called God's Son. For similar reasons, other spirit creatures and even the man Adam are called sons of God.- Job 1:6; Luke 3:38.
by the Otter on July 25th, 2008
Of course. That’s right in the Bible. I mean, He was doing it under the direction of Father, but He still did it.
by tabithap5 on November 23rd, 2009
Is God Always Superior to Jesus?
JESUS never claimed to be God. Everything he said about himself indicates that he did not consider himself equal to God in any way—not in power, not in knowledge, not in age.
In every period of his existence, whether in heaven or on earth, his speech and conduct reflect subordination to God. God is always the superior, Jesus the lesser one who was created by God.
Jesus Distinguished From God
TIME and again, Jesus showed that he was a creature separate from God and that he, Jesus, had a God above him, a God whom he worshiped, a God whom he called "Father." In prayer to God, that is, the Father, Jesus said, "You, the only true God." (John 17:3) At John 20:17 he said to Mary Magdalene: "I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God." (RS, Catholic edition) At 2 Corinthians 1:3 the apostle Paul confirms this relationship: "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ." Since Jesus had a God, his Father, he could not at the same time be that God.
The apostle Paul had no reservations about speaking of Jesus and God as distinctly separate: "For us there is one God, the Father, . . . and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ." (1 Corinthians 8:6, JB) The apostle shows the distinction when he mentions "the presence of God and of Christ Jesus and of the elect angels." (1 Timothy 5:21, RS Common Bible) Just as Paul speaks of Jesus and the angels as being distinct from one another in heaven, so too are Jesus and God.
by lastwraith on July 25th, 2008
Yeah sure, why not. Does it matter? No, of course not.
If that makes you happy, go right on believing it. Not bothering me about whatever you believe (no matter what it is) will guarantee you plus points in my book any day of the week.
by Texasescimo on October 11th, 2010
The Father created Jesus and then through Jesus, God created everything else.
(1 Corinthians 8:6) there is actually to us one God the Father, out of whom all things are, and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are, and we through him.
(Hebrews 1:2) has at the end of these days spoken to us by means of a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the systems of things.
(John 1:3) All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence. What has come into existence
[Although most translations say “without him” at John 1:3, choris should be translated as “apart from”.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G5565&t=NASB
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=john1:3,10;1cor8:6;col1:16&version=NASB;HCSB
http://scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/NTpdf/joh1.pdf
http://www.antioch.sg/cgi-bin/bible/vines/get_defn.pl?num=132#1]
(John 1:10) He was in the world, and the world came into existence through him, but the world did not know him.
(Colossians 1:15-16) He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him.
(Revelation 3:14) “And to the angel of the congregation in La‧o‧di‧ce′a write: These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God,
(Proverbs 8:22) “Jehovah himself produced me as the beginning of his way, the earliest of his achievements of long ago.
(Proverbs 8:30) then I came to be beside him as a master worker, and I came to be the one he was specially fond of day by day, I being glad before him all the time,
(Genesis 1:26) And God went on to say: “Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness, and let them have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and the domestic animals and all the earth and every moving animal that is moving upon the earth.”
Jesus also said that "I live because of the Father", Jehovah does not live because of anyone else.
(John 6:57) Just as the living Father sent me forth and I live because of the Father, he also that feeds on me, even that one will live because of me.
In line with the principle at 1Cor 15:27-28, it is evident that everything, would be with the exception of himself and God, as he obviously did not create himself or God. The Bible shows that God created Jesus and then through Jesus, he created everything else.
1Cor 15:27-28 For [God] “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that it is with the exception of the one who subjected all things to him. 28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.
The scriptures show that Jehovah is the creator.
(Genesis 1:1) In [the] beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
(Genesis 1:6) And God went on to say: “Let an expanse come to be in between the waters and let a dividing occur between the waters and the waters.”
(Genesis 1:27) And God proceeded to create the man in his image, in God’s image he created him; male and female he created them.
(Genesis 2:4) This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time of their being created, in the day that Jehovah God made earth and heaven.
(Genesis 5:2) Male and female he created them. After that he blessed them and called their name Man in the day of their being created.
(Genesis 6:7) So Jehovah said: “I am going to wipe men whom I have created off the surface of the ground, from man to domestic animal, to moving animal and to flying creature of the heavens, because I do regret that I have made them.”
(Psalm 33:6) By the word of Jehovah the heavens themselves were made, And by the spirit of his mouth all their army.
(Psalm 148:5) Let them praise the name of Jehovah; For he himself commanded, and they were created.
(Isaiah 40:28) Have you not come to know or have you not heard? Jehovah, the Creator of the extremities of the earth, is a God to time indefinite. He does not tire out or grow weary. There is no searching out of his understanding.
(Isaiah 42:5) This is what the [true] God, Jehovah, has said, the Creator of the heavens and the Grand One stretching them out; the One laying out the earth and its produce, the One giving breath to the people on it, and spirit to those walking in it:
(Matthew 19:4) In reply he said: “Did YOU not read that he who created them from [the] beginning made them male and female
(Mark 10:6) However, from [the] beginning of creation ‘He made them male and female.
(Ephesians 3:9) and should make men see how the sacred secret is administered which has from the indefinite past been hidden in God, who created all things.
(Ephesians 3:14-15) On account of this I bend my knees to the Father, 15 to whom every family in heaven and on earth owes its name,
(Ephesians 1:3) Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, for he has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in union with Christ,
If people read the Bible for themselves they might see that Jehovah quite often does things through others. That don’t make them Jehovah.
Acts 2:22 Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus the Naz•a•rene′, a man publicly shown by God to YOU through powerful works and portents and signs that God did through him in YOUR midst, just as YOU yourselves know,
Matthew 2:17 Then that was fulfilled which was spoken through Jeremiah the prophet, saying:
Matthew 2:23 and came and dwelt in a city named Naz′a•reth, that there might be fulfilled what was spoken through the prophets: “He will be called a Naz•a•rene
Matthew 4:14 that there might be fulfilled what was spoken through Isaiah the prophet, saying:
Matthew 8:17 that there might be fulfilled what was spoken through Isaiah the prophet, saying: “He himself took our sicknesses and carried our diseases.”
Acts 28:25 So, because they were at disagreement with one another, they began to depart, while Paul made this one comment:
“The holy spirit aptly spoke through Isaiah the prophet to YOUR forefathers
John 1:17 Because the Law was given through Moses, the undeserved kindness and the truth came to be through Jesus Christ.
Many people say that other should not be in Col 1:16, but what goes with the rest of the Bible?
Col1:16 because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1Cor6:18;%20lUKE13:2;%20eSTHER3:8;1Cor%2015:27;John1:3;&version=KJV;AMP;NLT;ESV;NIV;Phil 2:9 Obvious that his name is not above his name but that it is above "all other names".
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1Cor6:18 (Any "other sin" which a man commits is one outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body) It is obvious that sexual immorality is not a sin outside of the body so it should be "any other sin" as any sin would include sexual immorality"
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Luke13:2 (Galileans were greater sinners than all the "other" Galileans because they have suffered in this way?) Obvious that it is not saying that the Galileans are grester sinners than Galileans.
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Esther 3:8 (There is a certain people scattered abroad and dispersed among the people in all the provinces of thy kingdom; and their laws are diverse from all people) It is obvious that their laws are not diverse the laws of themselves.
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It goes with the principle at http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/15-27.htm Also goes with "apart from him" not one thing was created. http://bible.cc/john/1-3.htm
Luke 13:2, most translations see the need to add other.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Luk&c=13&v=2&t=NKJV#vrsn/2
Phil 2:9 it is obvious that Jesus name is not above his own name as that would be an oxi-moron. From other scriptures, it is obvious that it cannot be above the Father's name.
1Cor 15:27 "For [God] “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that it is with the exception of the one who subjected all things to him"
John 13:16 "..nor is one that is sent forth greater than the one that sent him" (John 6:38; John 7:29) http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2013:16;John%206:38;John%207:29;1Cor%2015:27;Phil%202:9&version=KJV;AMP;NLT;ESV;NIV.
Same thing with Col 1:17. He nor his Father was made by means of himself so obviously it would be "all other things".
A few more verses where the same word "pas" from G3956 is recognized by translators as being something like "all other" or "manner of" include: Luke 13:4, Luke 11:42, Mat 13:32, Mat 4:23 and Phil 2:21.
Compare Luke 13:4 in the King James to these versions. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2013:4&version=NKJV;ESV;NIV;ESV;AMP.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G3956&t=NKJV[1) individually
a) each, every, any, all, the whole, everyone, all things, everything
2) collectively
a) some of all types]
by Anonymous on November 23rd, 2009
Only if you believe so.
+5
by STEPHEN MOGAGABE on November 23rd, 2009
ask difficult questions not easy ones.
by Mister IT is trying to Liahona outta here on November 23rd, 2009
Yes. Next question . . .
by Texasescimo on December 21st, 2009
Nope. He did not create God or himself, but everything else was created by God through Jesus.
If all the misinformation, hype and lies about the MORMON faith can be explained, vindicated and justified - would you believe ?
by MORE GOOD on November 13th, 2011
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do you like mormons?
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There are many religions all claiming to be true,but i feel the Mormon religion is correct and true..could this be because i grew up mormon?
by MORE GOOD on November 20th, 2011
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Are there any Mormon based video games?
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How do Mormons prove they are Mormons and can go inside a temple? Do they have a secret handshake? Password?
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Yes, Jesus did. John 1:1-3,14 states He did.
by L. Taylor on November 23rd, 2009
No, God did.
by Theby on November 24th, 2009
You didnt read the scripture..It says Jesus did:
According to THIS scipture, Yes!
John 1:1-3, 14
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2The same was in the beginning with God.
3All things were made by HIM; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
And Jesus is the Word:
14The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
by L. Taylor on November 24th, 2009
I read the Holy Qur'an. I stopped reading the bible years ago when it didn't make sense to me.
by Theby on November 25th, 2009
Sorry to hear that, I will pray for you.
by L. Taylor on November 25th, 2009
No thank you. I only like my Muslim brothers and sisters praying for me.
by Theby on November 25th, 2009
Still will pray for you and them too.
by L. Taylor on November 25th, 2009
L.Taylor, I know the bible and reject it. Have you read the Holy Quran? Do not reject something you know nothing about.
by Theby on November 26th, 2009
Yes, I have and reject it. I read the Holy Bible. I stopped reading the Qur'an years ago when it didn't make sense to me. I prayed about it and sensed God was telling me the Holy Bible was His TRUE Word and my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, and the shedding of His blood for my sins to redeem me was the ONLY way to heaven.
by L. Taylor on November 26th, 2009
Why, before Jesus (pbuh) was born did people pray to God and then after Jesus (pbuh) left this earth they started praying to (as you maintain) God's son? Look, LT, I respect anyone's right to choose and practice the religion of their choice. I try not to give links and use my own words whenever possible but I really would like to hear your comments on the following. :
http://www.wrestedscriptures.com/A08Islam/deuteronomy18v18-19.html
by Theby on November 26th, 2009