Well of course you've hit the nail on the head in terms of the "complexity of life" problem. Saying "God created life" as if that explains the origin of complexity is the height of logical folly. Indeed, God must be at least as complicated as life. But those who espouse Creationism are unimpressed with this argument. The logic goes that God transcends all phenomena, including causality, complexity, and space/time. Its a "biggest bucket" argument: if there's nothing more complex than God, then he is the ultimate source of complexity and the recursion ends there. If that argument does it for you, there's nothing left to discuss. Apparently it works for many people. The last point of this is that it isn't necessarily an argument between Creationism and "random chance". "Random chance" implies a lack of directionality, a sort of pure chaos that isn't inherently self-organizing. A better orienting metaphor to understand evolution is in the concept of "emergent properties". There are many systems in which many small elements, interacting using very simple rules, can produce great complexity. Mandlebrot images are an example from mathematics, there are many others. The complexity emerges without design, but there is a directionality to it -- you can be sure that for certain sets of conditions, complexity will arise. For evolution to make sense to the non-scientific mind, an understanding of emergent properties can be helpful. But since you've posted in Theology instead of Science, its important to underscore that ultimately this is a matter of faith: people believe in God for a variety of reasons, and certain religions encourage people to suspend critical analysis beyond a certain point and simply trust without evidence. This trust is considered a key aspect of practicing the religion, so there's no way to subject it to critical thinking. I actually think that idea has some merit in terms of spiritual development, but that's another topic. EDIT ================================ Thom64: I think you're misinterpreting. I'm not saying that one needs to explain the complexity of God. I'm saying (and its obvious) that its inconsistent to insist that the complexity of life requires an external cause and then to abandon that insistence when talking about God. It just pushes the question of causality back one level, and is thus illogical. I'm not saying that Creationists are fools, in fact I've heard some excellent arguments there. But you gotta be consistent if you're going to claim to rely on logic, you can't change the rules when you change levels of abstraction. As long as one isn't claiming logic as the basis of the assertion, there's no problem. Logic is not the be-all and end-all of truth, it always breaks down outside of a "local context" which specifies the ground rules. There's nothing wrong with having faith, Creationists -- of all folks -- should be able relax a bit about having to pin down all of the details in a discursive argument. Since when is love, redemption, grace, or wholeness about your ability to assemble impenetrable fortresses of logical argument? Among other things, it doesn't even work as a proselytizing strategy -- it just makes it look like believers are scrambling with all their might to cover up an ever-eroding set of holes in ancient mythology. Its defensive instead of inspiring.

God is spirit. What makes you think that spirit has to be made? Time, space, and causality may not exist in the spirit world. In fact, both creationism and the Big Bang theory posit that there was neither time nor space until matter began to exist; St. Augustine said this in the third century already, and Einstein said that if you could remove all matter from the universe, space and time would disappear along with it. There wouldn't even be a big, black, endless cold vacuum. There wouldn't even be nothing--there would be less than nothing. So until God began to create, there was nothing but God, and what He uses for time, space, and causality we can't even imagine.

Jehovah is the Creator of all things, the great First Cause; hence he is uncreated, without beginning. (Re 4:11) “In number his years are beyond searching.” (Job 36:26) It is impossible to place an age upon him, for there is no starting point from which to measure. Though ageless, he is properly called “the Ancient of Days” since his existence stretches endlessly into the past. (Da 7:9, 13) He is also without future end (Re 10:6), being incorruptible, undying. He is therefore called “the King of eternity” (1Ti 1:17), to whom a thousand years are but as a night watch of a few hours. Ps 90:2, 4; Jer 10:10; Hab 1:12; Re 15:3. It is because of God’s will that all things “existed and were created.” (Re 4:11) Jehovah, who has existed for all time, was alone before creation had a beginning. Ps 90:1, 2; 1Ti 1:17. While Jehovah, who is a Spirit (Joh 4:24; 2Co 3:17), has always existed, that is not true of the matter of which the universe is made. Hence, when creating the literal heavens and earth, Jehovah did not use preexistent material. This is clear from Genesis 1:1, which says: “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.” If matter had always existed, it would have been inappropriate to use the term “beginning” with reference to material things. However, after creating the earth, God did form “from the ground every wild beast of the field and every flying creature of the heavens.” (Ge 2:19) He also formed man “out of dust from the ground,” blowing into his nostrils the breath of life so that the man became a living soul. Ge 2:7. Something Cannot Come From Nothing. No scientist has been able to produce something from nothing. Man can only transform or build up existent materials. Similarly, no one possessed of his senses would suggest that a manufactured article just happened. The Bible states as a self-evident truth: “Of course, every house is constructed by someone.” Then it continues with the logical conclusion: “But he that constructed all things is God.” (Hebrews 3:4) To recognize that a house needed an architect and a builder and, at the same time, claim that a complicated atom, molecule, or cell sprang out of nothingness simply does not make sense from the Bible’s viewpoint. The Bible asks logically: “Should the thing made say respecting its maker: ‘He did not make me’?” Isaiah 29:16. Life Comes From Life. Although some people persist in believing that life sprang spontaneously from nonliving matter, we have yet to see factories converting carloads of chemicals into manufactured living cells. If life happened spontaneously, why cannot man repeat and develop the process? Simply because the facts show that all known living things come from preexisting living things. The Bible recognizes that the primeval First Cause must have been a living Being, stating: “From time indefinite to time indefinite you are God.” “With you is the source of life.” Psalm 90:2; 36:9. Matter Is a Form of Energy. The Bible is in perfect agreement with the scientifically proved fact that matter is a form of energy. Man has discovered how to release energy from matter in his atom bombs and in his nuclear power stations. The Bible shows God to be the source of the energy locked up in the material universe. We read: “Raise your eyes high up and see [bodies of the solar system, stars, galaxies]. Who has created these things? It is the One who is bringing forth the army of them even by number. . . . Due to the abundance of dynamic energy, he also being vigorous in power, not one of them is missing.” (Isaiah 40:26) “He is the Maker of the earth by his power.” Jeremiah 10:12. The Universe Gives Evidence of Purpose. In human experience, order never results from confusion. Is it, therefore, logical to believe that the order visible on earth, with its seasons and cycles so necessary to plant, animal, and human life, could have come about by chance? Rather, do not these things give evidence of design and purpose? The Bible states: “This is what Jehovah has said, the Creator of the heavens, He the true God, the Former of the earth and the Maker of it, He the One who firmly established it, who did not create it simply for nothing, who formed it even to be inhabited.” Isaiah 45:18. Some evolutionists, in effect, say that our existence on earth is “as if we had won a million-dollar lottery a million times in a row.” Consider just one of God’s creations, the human brain: “There may be from ten trillion to one hundred trillion synapses in the brain, and each one operates as a tiny calculator that tallies signals arriving as electrical impulses.” (The Brain) We tend to take the brain for granted, yet it is an intricate universe contained and protected in the cranium. How did we come to have this organ that allows humans to think, to reason, and to speak thousands of languages? Through millions of lucky gambles? Or by intelligent design? Sources: The scriptures cited and the Awake! Magazine of May 8th 1986 pages 16 to 17

Firstly, dont even begin the try and understand "God". It is so far beyond our minds taht it is not worth constantly questioning it. It is like a rat debating the topic of "nature vs nurture" with its good friend, Mr Worm. Its nonsensicle. The rat and the Worm's minds arent made to think of anything on a higher level than survival. The same applies to us when we try to think of God. So rather than just treat it like something you can grasp, it is better to try and learn what you can from his prophets. Please, do your own research on this. Its very important.

I'm sure if amoebas had a consciousness, they'd think they were complex too. I believe than mortals created God, or Allah or whichever your preference is.