i think god would expect man NOT to fight period, but with free will and all, we always mess up and end up bickering over crap, leading to war. but jesus did die to forgive these kinds of things, but that still doesnt justify killing.

Wow good question. I have 2 schhols of thought about this. You could say they were commanded to do so but when you stand before god you cannot say that I was told to do so. A man's soul is his own. My other school of thought is that god will understand. If he dosen't, then he is not god and we don't need to worry.

The bible does not say "You shall not kill unless......" God does say obey mans laws so who he is going to punish for all the killing i dunno

Great question, nicholas! I believe that killing in self defense is not what is referred to in that commandment. Wars, though many are wrong, are necessary, for armaggeddon is closer now than ever before. That war is to be waged between man, led by the anti christ himself and God, and the victory is already won by the Almighty, for the creation, now matter how defiant or collective or powerful can usurp the Creator. Also, I believe the Israelites were defending God and themselves in their conquering of barbarians in the OT, and God allowed their victories, for all life is His to do with as He wills.

I believe the original translation reads, "You shall not murder." which, of course, would put things in a different light.

I hear Jesus is the forgiving type (or else he is a hypocrite, because he told us to forgive everything). Therefore Jesus will forgive military killing. Also war crimes.

when you get the wording of the commandment right I will answer.

though i'm pretty sure it's supposed to be "murder" i think that's what happens in an unjustifiable war. plain and simple it's murder. if country A attacks country B without just cause then country A is guilty of murder in my book.

Military personnel are merely following orders made by our political leaders...

Ecclesiastes 3:1-8. "To everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted; A time to kill and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up; A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance; A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing; A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away; A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak; A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace."

Is it true that God allowed ancient Israel to engage in warfare? He directed ancient Israel to use warfare to take possession of the land that he himself designated as their inheritance and to execute people whose depraved practices and defiance of the true God caused Him to view them as being no longer fit to live. (Deut. 7:1, 2, 5; 9:5; Lev. 18:24, 25) Nevertheless, mercy was shown to Rahab and to the Gibeonites because they demonstrated faith in God. (Josh. 2:9-13; 9:24-27) In the Law covenant God laid down rules for warfare that he would approve, stipulating exemptions and the manner in which this warfare was to be carried out. Such were truly holy wars of God. That is not true of the carnal warfare of any nation today. With the establishing of the Christian congregation, a new situation came into existence. Christians are not under the Mosaic Law. Christ’s followers were to make disciples of people of all nations; so worshipers of the true God would in time be found in all those nations. However, what is the motive of those nations when they go to war? Is it to carry out the will of the Creator of all the earth or is it to further some nationalistic interest? If true Christians in one nation were to go to war against another nation, they would be fighting against fellow believers, against people who prayed for help to the same God that they did. Appropriately, Christ directed his followers to lay down the sword. (Matt. 26:52) He himself, glorified in the heavens, would henceforth carry out the execution of those who showed defiance of the true God and His will.—2 Thess. 1:6-8; Rev. 19:11-21. As to serving in the armed forces, what does secular history disclose about the attitude of early Christians? “A careful review of all the information available goes to show that, until the time of Marcus Aurelius [Roman emperor from 161 to 180 C.E.], no Christian became a soldier; and no soldier, after becoming a Christian, remained in military service.”—The Rise of Christianity (London, 1947), E. W. Barnes, p. 333. (Jesus died in 33C.E. The last of the apostles “John” died about 100 C.E. ) “We who were filled with war, and mutual slaughter, and every wickedness, have each through the whole earth changed our warlike weapons,—our swords into ploughshares, and our spears into implements of tillage,—and we cultivate piety, righteousness, philanthropy, faith, and hope, which we have from the Father Himself through Him who was crucified.”—Justin Martyr in “Dialogue With Trypho, a Jew” (2nd century C.E.), The Ante-Nicene Fathers (Grand Rapids, Mich.; reprint of 1885 Edinburgh edition), edited by A. Roberts and J. Donaldson, Vol. I, p. 254. “They refused to take any active part in the civil administration or the military defence of the empire. . . . it was impossible that the Christians, without renouncing a more sacred duty, could assume the character of soldiers, of magistrates, or of princes.”—History of Christianity (New York, 1891), Edward Gibbon, pp. 162, 163. Therefore, during the time of Jesus and his apostles and some 60 to 80 years after their death...Christians did not fight in wars. It was not until the great apostasy set in that those who professed to be Christians fought and killed others during the times of war. VEW.

It’s true that Yahweh directed ancient Israel to use warfare to take possession of the land that he himself designated as their inheritance and to execute people whose depraved practices and defiance of the true God caused Jehovah to view them as being no longer fit to live. (Deut. 7:1, 2, 5; 9:5; Lev. 18:24, 25) Nevertheless, mercy was shown to Rahab and to the Gibeonites because they demonstrated faith in Yahweh. (Josh. 2:9-13; 9:24-27) In the Law covenant God laid down rules for warfare that he would approve, stipulating exemptions and the manner in which this warfare was to be carried out. Such were truly holy wars of Yahweh. That is not true of the carnal warfare of any nation today.

purplecows...With the establishing of the Christian congregation, a new situation came into existence. Christians are not under the Mosaic Law. Christ’s followers were to make disciples of people of all nations; so worshipers of the true God would in time be found in all those nations. However, what is the motive of those nations when they go to war? Is it to carry out the will of the Creator of all the earth or is it to further some nationalistic interest? If true Christians in one nation were to go to war against another nation, they would be fighting against fellow believers, against people who prayed for help to the same God that they did. Appropriately, Christ directed his followers to lay down the sword. (Matt. 26:52) He himself, glorified in the heavens, would henceforth carry out the execution of those who showed defiance of the true God and His will.—2 Thess. 1:6-8; Rev. 19:11-21.

I think Jesus is crosseyed in many matters

Not really purplecows. The doing away with the Mosaic Law, including the Ten Commandments, does not take away all moral restraing. For many of the moral standards set out in the Ten Commandments were restated in the inspired books of the Christian Greek Scriptures. But no matter how good a law is, as long as sinful inclinations dominate a person’s desires, there will be lawlessness. However, regarding the new covenant, which has replaced the Law covenant, Hebrews 8:10 states: “‘For this is the covenant that I shall covenant with the house of Israel after those days,’ says Yehweh. ‘I will put my laws in their mind, and in their hearts I shall write them. And I will become their God, and they themselves will become my people.’” How much more effective such laws are than those engraved on stone tablets! Rom. 6:15-17: “Shall we commit a sin because we are not under law but under undeserved kindness? Never may that happen! Do you not know that if you keep presenting yourselves to anyone as slaves to obey him, you are slaves of him because you obey him, either of sin with death in view or of obedience with righteousness in view? But thanks to God that you were the slaves of sin but you became obedient from the heart to that form of teaching to which you were handed over.” (See also Galatians 5:18-24.)VEW

Webster’s Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary says that a pacifist is someone who is “strongly and actively opposed to conflict and esp[ecially] war.” It defines “pacifism” as “opposition to war or violence as a means of settling disputes; specif[ically]: refusal to bear arms on moral or religious grounds.” How would these definitions apply to the believers of the early Christian congregation? (Jesus and his st century followers who set an example for us to follow) They did ‘refuse to bear arms on moral and religious grounds’ and avoided all ‘conflict and war.’ Why? Because they knew that Jesus had said that his followers were “no part of the world” and that “all those who take the sword will perish by the sword.” (John 15:19; Matthew 26:52) In The Early Church and the World, one historian tells us that “up to the reign of Marcus Aurelius at least [161-180 C.E.], no Christian would become a soldier after his baptism.” In The New World’s Foundations in the Old, another says: “The first Christians thought it was wrong to fight, and would not serve in the army even when the Empire needed soldiers.” The Christians’ commission was to preach the good news. (Matthew 24:14; 28:19, 20) They understood that they had no commission from God to wage war against his enemies, to act as God’s executioners, as it were. (Matthew 5:9; Romans 12:17-21) Only when so-called Christians ‘depart far from the teaching of Christ,’ as Butler stated, do they get enmeshed in the wars of the nations. Then the clergy bless armies and pray for victory, often on both sides of a conflict. (Compare John 17:16; 18:36.) In past centuries, for example, Protestants and Catholics fought many bloody wars, resulting in “the horrors that [descended] on Western Europe, both sides proclaiming themselves as the instruments of God’s wrath,” writes Kenneth Clark in his book Civilisation. The arguments made to justify this kind of warfare, says McClintock and Strong’s Cyclopedia of Biblical, Theological, and Ecclesiastical Literature, “have evidently grown out of a desire to conciliate the civil power, and are clearly opposed to the ancient Christian doctrine and to the whole spirit of the Gospel.”—James 4:4. VEW

The good lord would only turn a blind eye or forgive if they trully repented and felt bad about what they have done,as well if they really don't want to but have to kill that person.Only in those conditions would the lord turn a blind eye.If you feel nothing and don't repent then he will not forgive or turn ablind eye to the matter.IF you need more advice just ask.

No Jesus does not turn his head when we kill under the guise of "christian warfare". No loving God would ever approve of the atrocities committed during the crusades. However, Yahewh did direct the ancient Israelites to use warfare to take possession of the land that he himself designated as their inheritance and to execute people whose depraved practices and defiance of the true God caused Yahweh to view them as being no longer fit to live. (Deut. 7:1, 2, 5; 9:5; Lev. 18:24, 25) Nevertheless, mercy was shown to Rahab and to the Gibeonites because they demonstrated faith in Yahweh. (Josh. 2:9-13; 9:24-27) In the Law covenant God laid down rules for warfare that he would approve, stipulating exemptions and the manner in which this warfare was to be carried out. Such were truly holy wars of Yahweh.. That is not true of the carnal warfare of any nation today. With the establishing of the Christian congregation, a new situation came into existence. Christians are not under the Mosaic Law. Christ’s followers were to make disciples of people of all nations; so worshipers of the true God would in time be found in all those nations. However, what is the motive of those nations when they go to war? Is it to carry out the will of the Creator of all the earth or is it to further some nationalistic interest? If true Christians in one nation were to go to war against another nation, they would be fighting against fellow believers, against people who prayed for help to the same God that they did. Appropriately, Christ directed his followers to lay down the sword. (Matt. 26:52) He himself, glorified in the heavens, would henceforth carry out the execution of those who showed defiance of the true God and His will.—2 Thess. 1:6-8; Rev. 19:11-21. VEW