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  • Run for the wind
  • boredasmustard's avice is not a good idea. If you just run away then you will create more problems for yourself. Depending on how long you are gone, running away would be either absent without leave (AWOL) or desertion. Either offence can get you thrown into prison and a dishonorable discharge. These are both consequences that can make it more difficult to find a job once you are out. If you don't get caught, then you have to spend the rest of your life worrying about being caught. You won't be able to use your own SS# any more. So, you will have to commit fraud and or identity theft just to get a job. Using a fraudulent social security number is a federal offence. So, you would have these charges added on top of the desertion charges. So, you would just be digging yourself into a deeper hole. I don't know how you can get out without completing your tour of duty. However, boredasmustard's advice is not the answer. Find a legal way to accomplish this if you must. However, I would also say this. When you signed up, you made a commitment. Breaking that commitment will also not look good on a resume. Potential employers will look at that and wonder if they can depend on you to stick with whatever job they may give you. So, my advice to you is to stick it out and complete your enlistment. Don't complain and make the most of your situation. You just may find that, down the road, you will be glad to have the self-discipline and other skills that military service will give you. ************ "boredasmustard: I like my idea. It's more fun" Only until you have to start living with the consequences of your solution.
  • I don't have the answer for this, but the G.I. Rights hotline does: 800-394-9544. (http://www.objector.org/girights/index.html) They can offer advice on methods of getting a discharge, and related issues you may face.
  • You need to just stay where you are. This, of course if from a career Navy man. But bootcamp is not that bad in the Navy. If I could do it in 1971, you can do it today. Just hang in there, do your enlistment and get out. You will be proud of yourself for staying. If you bail out of bootcamp, later in life you will be wondering if you could have made it. Other guys you get into conversations with that went to 'Nam, Saudi, or Iraq will think you are a wuss. They may not say anything, but trust me, they wont look at you the same way as even another guy that just didnt even go to the military. No problem with someone that didnt want to go and didnt, but go and bust out before your time is up,,, that aint cool. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it.
  • Be a screw up and you'll get out. The process won't be fun, but your objective will be accomplished. However, you will spend the rest of your life trying to prove to yourself and people who know you that you can be trusted to keep your word and your commitments. You volunteered, you signed a contract, you need, for your own personal honor, to do your best to uphold your commitments - otherwise your word is worthless. Trust me, if the DIs think you being there is a mistake they'll muster you out, but if they don't, trust their judgement more than yours, they've all seen thousands of recruits who have doubts just like you.
  • Remember Klinger from MASH? Sometimes that works!
  • Has anyone not answered the obvious. Once you contract with the military, you are obliged to serve your tour of duty. There is no legal way to get out because you have regrets. I have regrets every day I get up and it takes me an forever to dress and get ready for work. I have regrets when I can't walk and run the way I used to or powerlift. I have regrets that I lost men. I have regrets. The decision was mine and I have to live with the decision. Someone that has regrets for joining the military just has to deal with it.
  • If you are still in bootcamp you can get out. You just have to explain how that was NOT what you wanted and you cannot adapt to military life. Its not a quick and easy deal. They will try to convince you to stay and say "you cant leave" but its all bullsh*t. You dont officially get stuck in your contract until you have completed bootcamp. Complain and whine enough about leaving and you wil be discharged and it will be noted as "Failure to adapt to military life". I dont think you can ever go back into the armed forces again though. Another option is fail the physical standards over and over. Itll take a while, but if you cant pass the exercises eventually they will kick you out.
  • Glenn, there are ways out of the military. If you have shown that you are not suited for military life during initial entry training, you can be dischared under "Failure To Adapt". After passing training, you can be discharged for: - Not meeting height/weight standards - Failing physical training tests - Lack of career progression (only possible after a couple of years of service), etc. That is not an exhaustive list, but are the most common ones I saw that do not result in a General Discharge or a Bad Conduct Discharge. If you are disharged with a General-Under-Honorable Condtions or a General Dischargem, you can petetion VA to reconsider the nature of the discharge and have it upgraded to Honorable. If you do NOT want to be there, the military does NOT want you there where you can poison the ranks with you bad attitude and lack of trust.
  • There are many ways you can get out of the military even after you are in BMT (Basic Military Training). You could say you can not adapt the miltary lifestyle, that is harder than it sounds though. But when you first get to BMT you have to fill out this Pysch exam, they ask you questions like do you think about killing yourself...stuff like that. All you have to do is lie on that exam/paper and the medical people will think your crazy and kick you out. It would probably take 3 or 4 months before your back home, but i know for a fact this method works. Four people in my flight were released from the BMT just days after they got there because they sad they were depressed. Another way to get out is just to go AWOL (Absent Without Leave). This is not the smartest way to go. You'll most likely be found, and when your found you will have to go to a Military Court Martial and you will eventually be found guilty and you'll get a dishonorable discharge. You could spend up 5 years in Fort Levanworth. If you get a dishonorable discharge its hard to get a job at McDonald's or Walmart, so don't go this route. OR...You could fake a heart attack. Some kid tried this when i went through. The medical people found out he faked it and he got in serious trouble but he was eventually seperated from the military
  • I believe you are contracted to stay. Although illness will get you the boot. If they discover you have some form of sickness at a later date then perhaps this would be a reason for dismissal.
  • say and show S/S of being Bi-polar
  • Find someone else who wants out, and act like a couple.
  • I personally got out of the USMC bootcamp in San Diego. I easily got back into the insurance field. Say you are depressed and cannot adapt to the lifestyle, they will say you cant leave but it is complete B.S. We all make mistakes and wrong decisions, joining was mine ( i got out) and now my life is great!
  • What bootcamp lets you have access to a computer and the internet?
  • weed! thats what i have heard people do. thats illegel dont do that you can get arrested...and BLAH
  • You don't. You signed a contract, so they own your ass for at least the next two years.
  • Fail bootcamp. It is a test and contrary to popular belief it is not a dishonorable discharge but an administrative one.

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