What they have is free jobs because they steal them from the Americans. Look at what happened to RIVAL and everything involved with the Holmes group who, might I add, sold out right after they sent the jobs to China.

The Communist Party of China isn't COMPLETELY communist. While it does take on the basic key ideas of communism, modern communism is not like the original communism. Modern communism takes some ideas from capitalism, because even though communism is great in theory, in practice it will only lead to China's downfall (ie. people will become lazy and rely on others to work hard and make money for them).

They are still communists and will kill/jail anyone who has a different idea. After 1989 Tian'an'men Massacre, China was isolated and punished by the West. Dung realized communism's planning market will only lead to famine and death. He started the free market to "allow some Chinese to become rich". Those Chinese turns out to be all communists who has the power to suck blood from its people. Although China is running a "free market capitalism", it holds tight to communism political regime. All Chinese, especially Party members, must speak out loud in every weekly meetings: "We insist on leadership of the Communist Party, We insist on the Marxism theory, We insists on Mao's policies. We insist on the exploited class ruling exploiting classes." Do you know who are in those "exploiting" classes? Anyone who owns assets, properties, businesses. Anyone who is educated, or raised from a good family. Anyone who wants civilization, peace, equal human rights. Anyone of the above in mainland China, in Hong Kong, Taiwan and overseas. Who are those "exploited classes"? The very poor, lazy, greedy, iliterate, who wants to rob from the rich, successful, hard-working and embitious, who wants to rape their wives and daughters, and forbid them from complaining. And what does it mean by "exploited classes ruling exploiting classess"? The communists believe it is politically correct to humiliat those decent people, forbidding their children and grand children from study and work, brainwashing their children and grandchildren to hate their "exploiting" families, and feel ashamed about themselves. They believe their children and grandchildren should take advantage of the decent people's children and grandchildren, fool them, rob them, rape them, laugh at them, destroy them. This is still happen today in mainland China. All the Communist officials are still doing that. They are all brainwashed. They can't help it. Why? Because it is their mission - to "liberate" all mankind on earth! I've been amazed by how little people in the world know about this. All mainlanders know that. They don't dare to speak out. They can't speak English. Overseas Chinese cannot speak Chinese, they don't know communism. Hong Kong residents and Taiwanese speak Chinese, but they don't know communism. Only a few "foreigners" know the secret. They don't have any chance to let the world know.

FredSc is obviously not familiar at all with the idea of communism or socialism. Communism has nothing to do with killing/jailing, as it is an economic theory and not a political doctorine. Mass killing/jailing has occured in the feudal powers before communism, or even capitalism for that matter, and occurs everyday in capitalist nations all over the world, like Darfur or many other nations located in the third world. So killing/jailing, as I have just proven empiracally, is not a unique trait to commmunism/socialism. As I said before, mass killing, Tiannamen Square, is not unique to communism. We need only look at Rowanda, Darfur, Nazi Germany, East Timor, or how about right here in the grand USA, the treatment of the native americans (i.e. the Trail of Tears) and the mass detainment camps for the Japanese during WWII. Of course capitalist like FredSc would love for these events to have taken place under communism, real communists would rather they not have taken place at all. The reason these events take place is concentration of power. Not matter what type of economic theory being applied, concentration of power will always lead to horrific acts. As I said before, there is no political communist regime. FredSC, if asked, would not be able to point anywhere in Marx's or Engel's works (the creators of what is now considered socialism/communism) what would be considered communist political regime or political regime tactics. This is due to the fact neither of them ever made a model to follow. All models of communism that have ever existed are interpretations of the ideas layed out. Only the dictatorship of the proletariat could be considered as political regime tactics in nature, and this was only supposed to take place during the early stages of socialism, if you believe in that interpretation at all. If anyone has actually read the Communist Manifesto, they will recall that Marx says that a communist is any person who realizes that class struggle is the driving force of history, and does not identify any need of a party, party members, and by extension party docterine. The exploiting classes, as FredSc has stated are those who own the means of production, most notably C.E.O.'s. Howver FredSC made himself sound quite ignorant in saying that the class is also comprised of the educated and those who want equal human rights. This is obviously a farce. Einstein, an educated man, was a socialist, George Orwell, an educated man, was a socialist. Many of the greatest minds, escpecially Americans, from the turn turn of the century were socialists. Einstein went so far as to say, "the economic anarchry of capitalism is the real source of the evil." Now onto human rights. The exploiting class during the ramp up to the industrial revolution were interested in anything but equal human rights. Lets look at the lack of child labour laws, inequal rights for women, open opposition to public schools, no laws guranteeing any sort of safety or accountability for workers, no minimum wage or regular 40 hour work weeks, and no such thing as healthcare. All of these things came about from socialists. Marx in fact was the first to propose many of these ideas, and was the target of much hatred by the capitalist for them. Today we take these for granted, as if they sprung up from the goodness of the capitalists hearts. They are hard won victories for the common man. The exploited class is what is called the proletariat. It is anyone works for a living. The definition is that simple. It does not implicitly exclude on include anyone else. The exploited work for those who own, but get paid only subsitence wages. There is no incentive to work for most people in capitalism, as they do not own, directly or indirectly, the product which they create. What incentive is there to create more than the person next to you in an hour when you both make the same hourly wage. There is none. Lets add onto the fact that the reason we have so many jobs going overseas is because of capitalism. A corporation or business wants to use the smallest amount of money possible, then sell them for the highest price possible, so that they can have the largest profits possible. So it is obvious why a corporation will take its business elsewhere. It is cheaper to pay a man in Honduras .44 cents a day than a man in washington state $8.07 an hour. Then they sell those goods at a premium price to americans. It is illogical to think that a system based on the motivation of the extreme benefits of a few will somehow result in the betterment of all. This is especially true in todays global economy. Americans keep putting up with losing their jobs, and then they believe those who sold them out that laws which protect the common man are evil. What they want is for all those things which the common man has fought for, to vanish. They want the extreme laissez faire capitalism of the industrial revolution, along with the conditions that came with them. If corporations were socialised, the american people would make an american company to create american jobs for the production of american goods for american people. It is that simple. As I said before, it must be done without concentration of power, or it will only end as all dictatorships do. FredSc is just a product of his environment. He does not understand that his standard of living is artificial, and he has never seen the real world (not the US). As the last month has shown, the capitalist debt based economy is catching up with those who have lived like that and people will start having to living in their means, or acting their "wage". This mis-information about an economic alternative to the current system should really end. FredSc, and people like him, still live with a very one sided view of anything not capitalism which is a result of Cold War propaganda, just now fading from our mindsets. Now onto the real question. China is not communist. That is why they are capitalist. They are totalitarian capitalists. That is all. Funny that they became this way in the seventies, before the Tiannamen Square incident. I thought only communism could create such an atrocity. Oh, be the way. The reason the people were protesting was because the workers were fed up with the new free market capitalist programs. Look it up. The problem with China being called communist is, one, it is capitalist, two, communism according to Marx can't occur until a nation is already highly industrialized and most work has become autonomous, and three, communism's early form, socialism, relies on nations to work together. Marxist thought holds that many nations must band together so that they may do whatever it is that they do best, and trade amongst eachother on the basis of the actual want, not the prospect of possible went like in capitalism which leads to much waste. Without these nations, countries like China are forced to industrialize at any cost, increase agricultural production at any cost, along with the normals like modernize at any cost and create wealth at any cost. of course with all these factors going on at once, it can lead to some pretty dire situations. These are just a few reason why China is a capitalist country.

China does NOT have free market capitalism. China's communist slave labor is exploited by the free market capitalists of the world because it is cheap. Hopefully, someday Chinese workers will be fairly paid. When that day comes, free market capitalists will no longer benefit from cheap Chinese labor and may have to rethink their economic theories. Perhaps communists and capitalists alike will come to the conclusion that between the extremes of laissez fair (free market) capitalism and communism, there lies a middle ground that works better than either--a well regulated capitalism that recognizes the importance of both the supply and the demand side. I'm old enough to remember such a system in America, which once had the wealthiest working class in the world.