The gray area between the two.

Religion is a philosophy.

It goes in the same place as the rest of the things that people pull out of their ass. So, religion.

Science. Philosophy is the pursuit of truth, there is little truth in religion.

Philosophy would pervade both worlds and serve as the midpoint between them. There is Philosophy of Science, and Philosophy of Religion... both of those are historically tied to each other, too. You can't study the philosophy of science without encountering religious hurdles, and you can't study the philosophy of religion without scientific realism entering the picture. It is a really big IF, because I don't think you could ever separate the two. Philosophy sorta guarantees that as well.

Right in the very middle my friend! Philosophy is amazing, it's enlightening and it's integeral in understanding the logical similarities between science and religion. Although most philosophies can be taken purely from a scientific point of view - call it sociology or psychology. Philosophy is, to me, truthes that cannot be proven.

Both and neither.

Philosophy is a discipline or field of study involving the investigation, analysis, and development of ideas at a general, abstract, or fundamental level. It is the discipline searching for a general understanding of values and reality by chiefly speculative means. The core philosophical disciplines are logic, ontology or metaphysics, epistemology, and axiology, which includes the branches of ethics and aesthetics. Philosophy covers a very wide range of approaches, and is also used to refer to a worldview, to a perspective on an issue, or to the positions argued for by a particular philosopher or school of philosophy. Science is the discovery of knowledge about the world by verifiable means. Technology is the objects humans make to serve their purposes. Improvements in technology are passed from one culture to another. For instance, the cultivation of crops arose in several different locations, but quickly spread to be an almost ubiquitous feature of human life. Similarly, advances in weapons, architecture and metallurgy are quickly disseminated. Although a majority of humans profess some variety of spiritual or religious belief, some are irreligious, lacking or rejecting belief in the supernatural or spiritual. Additionally, although most religions and spiritual beliefs are clearly distinct from science on both a philosophical and methodological level, the two are not generally considered to be mutually exclusive; a majority of humans hold a mix of both scientific and religious views. The distinction between philosophy and religion, on the other hand, is at times less clear, and the two are linked in such fields as the philosophy of religion and theology. http://www.search.com/reference/Human

Nietzsche's views of morality.

Philosophy is the study of ideas in and of themselves, whereas both science and religion are concerned with certain statements about actual things in the world. It can be considered a 'meta-subject', dealing entirely with abstracts, so even if "the world" is split into two exhaustive but mutually exclusive parts, 'Philosophy' does not need to be placed in either.   Or, the answer could be 'science', since philosophical thought by necessity must obey at least basic logical rules and principles of analytical rigour, which religion tends to ignore with gleeful abandon.

blimey, all this navel gazing is making me thirsty... now if you all lived down the road i'd say lets continue this debate over a pint and a bag of pork scrtachings... i find that my philosophical theories always improove over a few bevies... but alas not possible... as for flying cars, ive seen a few but think they involved illegial substances... deemikay-make sure your listening to decent accordion tunes, a bit of jewish-like "oi vai" and french "ooh la la" tunes sound best on it... what is this "bazoukis"? P.s. i come from school of *Emmaism* an ancient philosophy energing from the Isle of Sheppy circa 1974

gingerminx i see your point - it sounds like you are talking about an constant *something*... Its sounds like you are defining truth in terms of our physical known world... it is there, therefore it must be true right? but that is actually a concept that is consrtucted by our current human understanding - and one that suggests that self and environment are seperate. Who's to say that there is not an interaction, a link between matter and our perception of it? Could it be possible that through our existence we effect what is reality?

I would rather say that our views about the world are split between what we do according to the scientific method and what not. Or: what is science and what not. Religion is usually not done according to the scientific method. A part of Philosophy is done according to the scientific method, another part, not. The definition of the scientific method itself takes place inside the philosophy of science. Further information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method

Right in the middle...there is room in my world for both.

It would either walk carefully along the line in between. Or it would float endlessly in the grey that join science and religion, as it is both and neither.

Deemikay, "subatomic particles - they behave differently if someone is looking at them." Lets say this is true, now if thats the case then that is a property of subatomic particles, this is a truth. It was a truth before humans discovered it, we merely gave it a name to understand it. You mentioned breaking a rock in half, a property of rock is that it can be broken into parts, that is a truth, again, it was a truth before we discovered it. Newton's law of gravity, a truth, yet it was a truth before he discovered it or otherwise he wouldn't have been there to discover it. We did not make these truths, we discovered them. Truth is not a human act, it is merely the name humans give to what already exists.

Science is based on evidence. Religion is based on faith. Philosophy is mostly examination of both.

I suppose Philosophy could be called the buffer?

Philosophy plays a part in both. Some Science looks for what is Truth, no matter how they scientist arrives at that conclusion. Some Science looks only to natural causes and denies anything spiritual no matter how evident (such as denying the obvious fact that there is Intelligent Design) The Bible agrees with real Science. Some things are passed off as Science based upon what someone imagines happened several billion years ago. This is psuedo-science that is based on conjecture.

"Religion ends and philosophy begins, just as alchemy ends and chemistry begins and astrology ends and astronomy begins." -Christopher Hitchens