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Incarcirated in juvenile, until he is an adult, then sentenced to life in prison. The toddler had a right to live and he destroyed it.
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Where was the baby's parents?
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I really want to be shocked by this, but I'm not. I remember a story a couple years ago in Florida about 2 brothers that beat there father, and tried to cover his death up by setting the house on fire. At the urging of a convicted child molester. Shocked, not all.
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My thoughts are that there is something so fundamentally wrong with a twelve year old who beats a toddler to death that be should be locked up for good. EDIT Kitt, you asked about the parents. I've been thinking about this for the past twelve hours and here's my take: To me, this kid's brutal nature is so much a part of his psyche that his actions are way beyond his parents' influence, unless they taught him to beat babies. When I think about him, I realize - every grown-up human monster had a twelfth birthday at one point. This one just got caught early.
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This child is in for many, many years of therapy and will probably NEVER have a life, (and probably shouldn't have much of one, anyway)! While still a child, I would hope that intensive therapy might help him, but, most of the time, nothing helps these children. Unfortunately, if true, there must not have been much of a loving, caring home for these children. This is a sad, sad commentary about that portion of our society that thinks a stinking t.v. show is more important than taking care of a sibling! This may have been a loving home, and just a freak, isolated incident. But, I don't think so.
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should be tried as an adult.
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It's very sad. You have to wonder if he was resentful of the baby because he had been forced to care for it or maybe he had been abused himself. You have to wonder how it escalated to him beating her to death and where the parents were. I don't know the exact info on this story. He obviously had a very violent temper for such a young child and needs to be incarcerated for many years and receive extensive counseling. There is a possibility he was destined to be a serial killer in the future. Many serial killers start being violent very early in life.
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It seems to me Florida has a lot of this type of incidents happening. The boy needs to be incarcerated in a mental therapy institution until 18. Once 18 he should be tried as a adult but, not given life that is depending on the outcome of his therapy. If the boy has a mental problem and only can be controlled by medication, then he should remain incarcerated.
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My child developement teacher says that "It's never the child's fault." Although I don't believe this applies 100% of the time, it is often true. The 7 year old was probably exposed to violence either on television, through video games, or in real life. I also have to wonder what the parents are like. 7 years old is a little late to be empty of empathy...and it is, afterall, the parent's duty to teach this to their child.
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Nothing suprises me anymore. My question is why was this baby left alone with a 12 year old. What kind of irresponsible parents would allow a 12 year old to be responsible for his baby brother or sister. I am pretty dammned sure that was not the first time this 12 year old showed he had a violent side. Maybe he didn't show it to that extreme before but I am sure this kid did something like smash things when he was angry or punch walls etc. I am not trying to blame the parents for what happened but I know oif that were me I sure as hell would not be leaving a 12 year old responsible for a toddler. If I couldn't find a responsible adult to look after my kid and it wasn't possible to take them with me I would stay home before leaving a toddler in the care of someone so young.
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As for bad behavior being the fault of the parents, sometimes it's true, sometimes it's not. My brothers and I were brought up the same way, yet they went WAY off track for a long time. The problem was, my parents tried to discipline all of us the same way. But we had different personalities. What worked on me did not work on them. My parents did their best, but they're not psychologists. That is like blaming the passengers when an airliner crashes.
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my thoughts are that it makes me really sad and horrified.
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Now the Mother is asking for leniency for the 12 year old Parents of dead toddler ask for leniency Posted January 16th, 2008 by minortopics | via www.local10.com Ocnel Joseph and Merlande Alexis, the parents of the baby beaten to death with a baseball bat by her 12-year-old cousin, are asking the courts not to prosecute the boy. We initially thought it was because they were incredibly forgiving on the level of saints, but it turns out Joseph doesn’t think the boy committed the crime: The baby’s parents, Ocnel Joseph and Merlande Alexis, are asking the Broward County State Attorney’s office to not press charges against the boy, who detectives say confessed to beating his cousin, Shaloh Joseph. The boy was baby-sitting the child at the family’s Lauderhill home on Jan. 4. He said the toddler was crying while he was trying to watch a television show. “He’s a good child. He loves me. He loved Shaloh and I believe he didn’t do it and his life shouldn’t be put at state,” said Joseph. McLawrence said the girl’s parents have filed an affidavit with prosecutors seeking leniency for the juvenile.
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wtf juvnule and life in prison i say 2 of juvinille and several therapy sesions i mean come on life most adults get 30 years but this is a young boy with puberty cloged in his brain yes he did something wrong do you snap like that when a girl gets a abortion the fetis gets no life at all this is two anser 1
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Well, it depends on what was on tv...
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He sounds like a spoiled pisshead. Look him up and throw the key away. He knew what he was doing and he did not care. Put him away, forever.
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It is outrageous that a 12-year-old would murder a small child he is looking after but it doesn't surprise me. The prime minister of Canada has stated that he wants to being in legislation that will make it possible to treat 14-years-olds as adults when they commit serious crimes like murder and then sentence them as adults to 25 years in prison. I approve of the concept but I am wondering if it would be better to raise the age limit to 16 instead. That way we can be sure the little punks knew what they were doing and did it knowing that they would get life in prison for doing it.
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sad! and where were the parents when this happened? how horrible.
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Where was the mother? Thats where the problem is. Parents today (especialy women) refuse to discilpline their childeren and they wounder whats gone wrong. Case in point Columbine, Co. and that group of girls up in Massachusets that got pregnat. People if you dont use discilpline including corporal punishment then dont blame the kids for going wrong. If you dont teach them right from wrong and include an example of consequencehow how are they suppose to learn how to behave. I was hit as a child when I steped out of line and so did my kids and it didnt cause any mental trama. It taught me what can and will happen if I dont show respect. Words only do so much but actions send the message home.
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