How could men get away without paying child support?

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• It's certainly a good argument for men becoming celibate or gay.

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  by Unicorn Man on May 9th, 2011

• That to me is common sense and probably the #1 way to avoid it which is actually true.

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  by Friendly Stranger is back for now on June 28th, 2011

• Only responsible men think this way. Wish there were more of them in this world.

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  by Macy on July 7th, 2011

• If your going to play the game, you got to pay the price.

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  by Texaspete on July 31st, 2011

• Texaspete, you're absolutely right. To me, if you can't afford to raise a child, then you can't afford to have sex. It's just that simple.

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  by Macy on August 3rd, 2011

• I think this attitude is totally wrong.

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  by Unicorn Man on August 3rd, 2011

• i MADE sure I'd never make another baby! After my 1st & 2nd marriage (same woman) and I lost custody of my 2 boys, I swore to myself I'd never have that happen again!
  I had a vasectomy! I just shoot blanks, now.

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  by Texaspete on August 6th, 2011

• I fake my orgasm....

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  by robroy12 on August 12th, 2011

• You cannot get out of child support even if you were entrapped and used by the whore to have a baby-that's what happened to me. Instead bide your time and over time a whore will always self destruct, alienate herself from the child with verbal if not physical abuse. When the child is old enuff get him an attorney to sue hell out of the whore for intentional infliction of emotional distress, harrassment, etc. You won't get the money but the child will and in the end justice will be served! Single fathers must unite to put down the femnazis in this country who have destroyed the family and sought to destroy the father-child relationship!

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  by dallieman on May 29th, 2012

• Dallieman, calling your child's mom a bad name doesn't make her look bad, it makes you look bad. And, I bet her character was acceptable to you until she got pregnant.

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  by Macy on June 7th, 2012

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• But Ron the difference is you're a real man. Alot of men aren't

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  by Little big mouth on October 9th, 2007

• Thanks Lisa, I just can't understand how a man can just walk away from his kids.

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  by ron s is back on October 10th, 2007

• Neither can I. I can give you my former husbands phone #, maybe he can explain. He hasn't seen my daughter in years

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  by Little big mouth on October 10th, 2007

• What a jerk. It's his loss. Kids are great. I couldn't imagine life without mine. and what I can imagine isn't worth living.

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  by ron s is back on October 10th, 2007

• Its lovely to hear from man that thinks like you x

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  by sweetielowe on September 4th, 2010

• Yes there are two sides. Women bitch about men quitting their jobs but basically they force you into it out of their own greed. I have three kids and pay $2,300 a month in support along with splitting extra curriculars, medical, and work related daycare. It averages about $3,000 a month. I am a high school teacher. I had a second job as a college professor in the evenings just so I could pay my mortgage along with all the support. I lost that job so my income decreased about $17,000. She took me back to court for more. She didn't get it but the judge ruled that if I get a second job I have to notify her within 14 days of getting the job. AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHY MEN QUIT THEIR JOBS. I give the bitch half my income. She has a housekeeper, lawn care service, and travels to LA four times a year, while I struggle to make it each month. She has a masters degree and teaching certificate, but decided to go back to school to be a nurse at 47. She simply doesn't want to work and wants the court to think she is a struggling single mom who is trying to better herself. SO NOW SHE CAN GO FUCK HERSELF! And I will never work a second job. Its one thing to support your children and its another to support her. The system sucks. I would be better off to stop doing extras at work so she gets less. But then Im a man who loves his kids and wouldn't do that. She knows it so she continues to milk me dry. SO LADIES THERE ARE TWO SIDES TO EVERY STORY. AND IM DONE LISTENING TO ALL YOUR STORIES OF ABOUT YOUR HORRIBLE EX HUSBANDS. You all created a system that encourages men to quit because all you want is money. And you certainly are not all about the best interests of the kids rather your own!!!

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  by abusedman on March 21st, 2012

• I understand why you are angry. However not all women are like your ex.
  I personally do not see why she cannot become a teacher again :/ she'd be working school hours surely? (as long as the children are school age).

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  by sweetielowe on March 21st, 2012

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• yes I know what you mean man! This woman waited 5 years to tell me I had a son yes 5 years how about that! I was paying 467.00 a month when I was working and sometimes give her more if I had it !I live in nashville tenn and we got flooded now no work and they are trying to put me in jail for it but what don't get me is she does not work!why cant she get a job and make it less hard on me!I never get to see him and trying to take care of my other kids! I think if women want to have sex with someone and then tell them to leave then she needs to get off her ass and do for her self and stop hurting a mans life! a child is a to part thing not a one part just that the man has to deal with and the woman gets to set on her ass and watch tv all day long! woman wake up you fight for rights now use them and get a fucking job!

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  by Wiliam_S on September 29th, 2010

• I see the point you are making but not all women use child support so they don't have to work. What about the guys who get girls pregnant and then want nothing to do with the child or the mother? or cheat on the mother and leave? or leave because they don't want the responsibility? They should have to "buck up" (your choice of words) and have to take care of their kids too. My favorite is the men who quit their jobs so they have to pay less in support or only fight for custody so they don't have to pay to help raise their kid and then disappear after a few visits....I'm guessing it's healthy for a child if their mother lets a man walk in and out of their life a bunch of times, making their child think they do something wrong and that's why the dead beat dad keeps playing immature games? Maybe you should see there are two sides to every coin and that each person and each situation is different. Get off your soap box and stop looking down.

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  by celerymassacre42 on November 3rd, 2010

• I dont know how you can think a woman can support herself and a child on money should would get in child support. You really think thats what we do? Sit around and watch TV, dont work, with the whopping $400 a month we would probably get?? Get real.

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  by Jayme_B on May 2nd, 2011

• So you guys think it's okay to get her pregnant and then disappear! If you can't support a baby and don't want to get the girl you're with pregnant, don't have sex! Or, use birth control. The world does not need more babies without fathers, babies being raised by women who can't do all that's necessary to raise and healthy, happy child.
  
  Grow up! Take responsiblity.

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  by GibsonGuy on May 7th, 2011

• You are so right. My fiancee has a gold diggin slut of a baby mama. True story I'm not even clowning this trick. Check this out. She tried to trap him by poking microscopic holes in the condom and got off the pill without telling him, he used the rubber but she dissapeared for months so abortion was out of the question, they got back together right, how come he found out that she fucked his brother, his brothers wife and his best friend and the only reason she put him on child support is because he refused to stay with her after that. But here it is 15 years later she is married to a midget in Florida with 3 kids and 3 baby daddies, and after all of that she is married but she bullied the guy into marring her, she took his ass to court 3 months before they were married for child support becase he got tired of her ass and all this time she still wants what I got. Now me I don't care about this whore, I work, I go to school, take care of my man wait on him and love him and take care of him like a real woman is supposed to and not being an easy slut who leaches off of the government and expects real women like me to have to pay for this shit. I know how you feel he can't see his son because it has to be on her terms but this bitch is still getting over so I feel you,and it sucks and this hoe's name is Eureka like the vacuum cleaner go figure! And it's hard for him to work when this stupid bitch is getting over by abuse of power by calling the cops all the damn time giving him a record because she sat there and lies all the time.

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  by hateulyingbitches on June 2nd, 2011

• I have raised my son for the last 14 years, ALONE, without a drop of child support or interest from his father. He wants to become a DR, and I will be the one who will bust my ass to see that he gets through to be one, because I support him and his dreams. I have done my job.
  
  SO, what makes his father, who was just as responsible for our son's being here, so special that he can opt out of everything? I don't remember getting myself pregnant on my own, it does take two, so obviously the JOB was meant for TWO.
  
  What ARROGANCE to assume that because you don't want to do something that you don't have to...You lost that right when you failed to wear a condom, because just like having a baby, it was also YOUR JOB to make sure that you wouldn't make one if you didn't want one!

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  by Sunshine on September 1st, 2011

• sunshine...you go girl!!! be proud of yourself..you have proven to yourself that you don't need the father for financial help(probably would have helped a fair bit) but you're doing it! my son's father also choses not to speak to him son or pay chilld support, but i like it. I don't have to deal with him and the animosity, plus i can hold my head high knowing i've been the sole provider for my child and he is happy and healthy as can be!!

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  by Sandy_O8256 on September 11th, 2011

• To the one who claims she poked holes in the rubber, where you there to see that she did, or are you assuming? If he was stupid enough to use a rubber that had holes in the package, he is one stupid person, sorry. Most look at what they are opening before it is opened. I take it it was too embarassing to carry his own rubbers? To embarassing to ensure he protected himself so instead he left it in the hands of the woman.
  
  I so get tired of hearing how men think they shouldn't have any responsibility to their children when the relationship breaks up, or when they get with a new woman, the new woman thinks it's all about her and the mother of the children is only asking for support because he is involved with her now. Sad state of affairs, because the one who loses out in the end is the child.
  
  You participate in the creation of the child, like us women you should be stuck with it. Why is it men think its ok to play, but not ok to be involved with their child. Don't you realize the implications of abandoning your own children for your selfish reasons and allowing your new woman to dictate that you can and can't see your kids because they aren't hers?
  
  Really now, there is a time to grow up and take responsibility for the things you do, not sit back and play the Peter Pan complex all your lives.
  
  For the majority who actually receive child support $200 doesn't go very far, and maybe if you kept up with it and not ducked out of jobs to avoid it and hide from it all you wouldn't end up in arrears, lose your licence and passport like my ex did. You want to be considered an adult, act like one, otherwise you get treated like the children you act like.

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  by sumyungal on October 7th, 2011

• My daughter works 40 hours a week and her ex hasn't voluntarily paid child support in over 2 years, go from job to job, doesn't have a car, doesn't have even an apartment. When he works enforcement agency takes it out, but when he quits, he is responsible for paying and he doesn't even though, he is in the National Guard and does get some money every month. He hasn't paid in almost 2 months now, since quiting his job even though he has been doing guard stuff most of that time. Was able to pay a bunch of money to get a tattoo that goes from his armpit to his pants top though. My daughter pays her bills and takes care of her daughter and has very little money left over. She also only gets $300 a month when she is getting it and it is ALWAYS spent on her daughter. She tried getting food stamps earlier this year and because of child support putting her over $150, she couldn't get them, only now since he isnt' paying is she getting a small amount and when or if he starts paying that will stop. He is supposed to get insurance on her but everytime he does he then quits his job and she has never actually gotten any from him. He gets to see her his scheduled weekends and holidays and sometimes in between and his parents and sister even get her occasionally, so he and his family are not being kept from her. Not all women are using child support money for themselves and also denying visitation.

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  by sissy.mac.akajoellen on November 3rd, 2011

• As far as child support from a very experienced man as I am, women get preference over men no matter what the situation. The system is set up by women that go after men. It does not matter if the man is good or has good intentions, the system will go after you if you are a man. Now lets look at the women that owe child support: I have a x-wife that never paid child support in TENNESSEE and now that they are grown, own my dime, I have to pay a lawyer, take her to court myself, with no STATE HELP, and hope to get what is due. IS THIS DISCRIMINATION OR IS THIS DISCRIMINATION? If the system had good faith in mind instead of just a paycheck, the United states would not be full of absentee fathers. if fathers were treated like fathers, instead of treated like a paycheck, things might be different for the fatherless children. There are fatherless children because of the system!!!!!Since when do children matter here? Well children best interest don't matter to the state. The state just wants to control the dads. Through the court system they want to control the dads. Think about this, just give up parental rights and stop trying to see your children because in the end your children want respect the dad anyway. Because the children are taught not to respect the dads by the State, especially in Tennessee.. Even if a dad raises kids without child support by the mother, as a dad he will never be respected as a father.........

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  by fatherlesschildren on March 9th, 2012

• on this note I was working with a guy whose old lady, he left her cause he found her doing narcotics and strangers instead of watching the kids, he got to pay child support - she got the kids AND (drum roll please) a restraining order and guarded visits, shes the criminal hes paying for her crime cause the law is...well yall tell me, should it really make more sense to be a criminal douche bag? lets ask the kids what they think about it.

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  by Mud on September 10th, 2012

• My ex would get drunk and pass out while watching our 1 year old while I was at work. He didn't work at all. His only job was to take care of the house and the baby and couldn't do that. After years of abuse he was finally arrested and I asked his PO to not let him back. Since then he left the state and has paid a total of $13 in support in 4 years. I work 40+ hours a week at the same job I've had for 9 years. I make enough to pay for what my daughter needs. But I can't buy her gifts for her birthday or Christmas, or even buy her new clothes. All of her clothes are used. I work in an office and have had the same clothes for at least 5 years. I can't afford to fix my teeth. I go without so my child has food. And you don't think I deserve any kind of support from her father? While he runs around from state to state to avoid all the felonies he's racked up on his own. Having his fun, drinking, partying, but I'm the leech? Grow up.

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  by Arealwoman37 on October 2nd, 2012

• I was speaking for the one left without, in Idaho the men get it handed to them, its the same either way, your the mom gotten it hard knox, also I'll bet he cries so much it hurts.
  
  your really strong

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  by Mud on October 2nd, 2012

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• I love this post. Finally someone said it. Don't forget about taking the driver's license away. BULLSHIT. Gold digging whores.

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  by Ajayla7283 on November 27th, 2010

• this is so true, women are so weak, i love my kids and would die for them. but if they only knew im am dieing everytime i see my pay check and and this bitch is going out parting with the money i gave her! this shit aint right, they i know it to, but i have to step up and kiss her ass still. that fuckin cum dumpster

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  by Karl_H on February 15th, 2011

• You are so right. My fiancee has a gold diggin slut of a baby mama. True story I'm not even clowning this trick. Check this out. She tried to trap him by poking microscopic holes in the condom and got off the pill without telling him, he used the rubber but she dissapeared for months so abortion was out of the question, they got back together right, how come he found out that she fucked his brother, his brothers wife and his best friend and the only reason she put him on child support is because he refused to stay with her after that. But here it is 15 years later she is married to a midget in Florida with 3 kids and 3 baby daddies, and after all of that she is married but she bullied the guy into marring her, she took his ass to court 3 months before they were married for child support becase he got tired of her ass and all this time she still wants what I got. Now me I don't care about this whore, I work, I go to school, take care of my man wait on him and love him and take care of him like a real woman is supposed to and not being an easy slut who leaches off of the government and expects real women like me to have to pay for this shit. I know how you feel he can't see his son because it has to be on her terms but this bitch is still getting over so I feel you,and it sucks and this hoe's name is Eureka like the vacuum cleaner go figure! And it's hard for him to work when this stupid bitch is getting over by abuse of power by calling the cops all the damn time giving him a record because she sat there and lies all the time.

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  by hateulyingbitches on June 2nd, 2011

• none of this is relevant, you pay your portion for your child period! If you don't like the fact that the mom goes out and marries a new guy and gets more help then go out and marry a new girl and get yourself some help too, it can go both ways, you can marry someone who makes 5000 a month.

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  by angbillings on June 13th, 2011

• Where did you come up with these ficticious numbers? My sons father makes $75,000 per year, and pays $275 per month in child support. Where's my sons $1200 per month? (oh ya, he gets that from me, along with all else I can give him, because i actually care about him)

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  by ladyshakespeare on November 2nd, 2011

• angbillings & ladyshakespeare,
  
  It needs to be said that the purpose of paying child support is NOT to help the ex-wife/husband make ends meet. It is to provide for the material needs of the child ONLY.
  
  That I think means that we can draw two things from this:
  1. payments should be based on the actual costs associated with raising the kids, and not on relative incomes.
  2. There is a reasonable expecation that child support funds be spent on raising the child, and proof of costs should be produced by the custodial parent.
  
  The current child support systems do not do any of these things: It is not the concept of child support that is wrong. It is the way that it is implemented that is the problem.

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  by Benjamin_P on February 11th, 2012

• You guys on here are so ridculous. You dad's think you have the winning role of father of the year, when you see your child every other weekend (if that) and want to think your the greatest dad in the world. The mom has 24/7 custody of your child, feeds them everyday, has a roof over your child's head, is with them basically EVERYDAY of their life DAILY. School, School Projects, Homework, Lunch, Dinner, Breakfast, (b/c kids eat and they cant skip a meal), putting them to sleep (getting them to sleep) we have to go to work, 8 hours, come home and still continue working. And you guys can't even pay any amount of money, and still have the balls when asked to get them on a weekend that isn't yours you throw in the moms face it aint your weekend, but OKAY! like dude really pay me my money and STFU. b/c when you want to go 4 months w/o seeing your child nor calling, that is Okay???? pppfffftttt listen dad's just b/c you see your child doesn't end all financial obligations. b/c children don't live off your every other (if that) weekend visit or your random every other 3 weeks during the week, dinner dates.

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  by amg1029 on February 21st, 2012

• amg1029,
  If you really wanted the assistance of your husband, then why did you divorce? You knew full well what you were getting yourself into - as did all those signle mums. Who are in the majority when it comes to initiating divorce.
  
  Futhermore, I am not a father and never have been married or had children - and never even been with a woman. So please do be careful to whom you apply labels. Futhermore, shared custody is more common these days and the number of custodial fathers is higher than it used to be. It needs to be said that this division is between custodial and non-custodial parents, and not fathers and mothers.
  
  But goodad is quite correct in his calculations. The problem is that both custodial and non-custodial parents will be doing it tough, and I understand you're in a difficult position personally, but so are a lot of other people.

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  by Benjamin_P on February 22nd, 2012

• So why have them?

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  by zapshouse on May 1st, 2012

• So why have them?

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  by zapshouse on May 1st, 2012

• hey the dad could really get his money spent if he suicides and she gets to meet mr. right as a known black widow...ooops got ya, shoulda loved me better.

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  by Mud on September 10th, 2012

• My wife left me and ruined my life basically. We have 2 boys, 9 and 12. I love them of course. She makes around $120k per year. Pretty good. I make peanuts now. I have to pay child support. She LEFT ME! I don't think of it as child support, but her fund to buy herself designer shoes and other wasteful things. I know thats where the money will go.

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  by steve.berger.73744 on December 7th, 2012

• Steve,
  
  If she is on 120k. How could it possibly be reasonable to get child support. I thought that was proportional to pay. If your ex-wife is the primary earner, then that would lead to her making the major contribution. Why didn't you take custody, and get her to pay you child support?
  
  
  Mud,
  
  Are you talking about suicide or murder? That is one good reason why I wouldn't get life insurance.

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  by Benjamin_P on December 9th, 2012

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• I'm sure there is more to the story than you want to lead on. Women think that because they are women that they are entitled to a free ride. Not to mention, I'm going to guess that your kids weren't planned, at least not by him. So in that regard, you get what you ask for.
  
  I find that most fathers that WANTED to be a father, don't usually walk out. Just because you decide to hide your birth control pills doesn't mean you should have the guy pay your rent every month.

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  by mortgageman825 on January 27th, 2009

• You couldn't be more wrong.... AND you are wrong to judge me by assuming what you say is how it happened.

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  by Babycakes on January 27th, 2009

• Wow, reading mortgageman825 response to babycakes has me soooo upset. I bet he is a deadbeat dad.
  
  What an ignorant a$$ like him and the others that share a similar opinion doesn't understand is while your right, women are NOT entitled to a free ride, but your children are!!! So step up to the plate and be a man and take care of the children you help produce. It doesn't matter if they were planned or not, there is an equal responsibility between the Parents to care for their children.

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  by Anonymous on November 3rd, 2009

• i am a dad but not buy the fact of the kids r mine. i been here since the oldest one was 2 months and when she cheated on me and got another one. i am still here oh yes there is a hell of a story but thats to long to rite. i hate the courts because the dad is hung up to dry and no common since is used and then its so hard to work in them theirs no way that a person should haft to go crazy because if we get a women preg then we haft to put 18 years on hold when the women controls everything and no one cares at all. thats if we work with the system that why we dont. and then u ask why were asses because if ur nice u end up wanting to hurt someone and then it just gets u in jail.

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  by Mark_N4001 on October 4th, 2010

• Sounds like fuckin piece of shit! I have a little song for this guy: And the cats and the cradle and the silver spoon little boy blue and the man on the moon, when you coming home dad I don't know when but we'll get together then son you know we'll have a good time then!

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  by Deserthot on January 7th, 2011

• Is it just me, or do people just not have any empathy for each other any more?

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  by Unicorn Man on May 9th, 2011

• I really am sorry to hear that babycakes. Sometimes there's no doubt that the men act like completely negligent arseholes who neglect the kids they're supposed to love.
  
  At the other end of the spectrum are the women who mercilessly leech money from men - perhaps they dump their faithful hubby for a new exciting rich man - and live the high life while her betrayed ex struggles to live and has to keep pumping her with money she doesn't need and uses for her own pleasure - drugs, expensive cars and clothes while he lives a life of poverty.
  
  The law needs to smarter, to look at each individual case and apply common sense to prevent injustices on both sides from happening.

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  by Unicorn Man on May 25th, 2011

• Same thing happened to me. Ex quit his job took a job for $10hr and got his support reduced to a third of what he was originally paying. Now he works underground and pays three weeks out of every three months. Just when the court would almost be able to get him for contempt he puts through 3 weeks of payments so it starts all over again. He goes two months without paying anything and then pays 3 weeks of the third month. He had a contempt hearing last year and the judge dismissed it because he was in jail during time of non payment of ten months. He also had arrears of twenty thousand at the time but he cried in court and she felt sorry for him and dismissed it. He is a manipulator who hasn't seen his kids in 3yrs never sent bday gift/cards presents nothing. He goes off with his new wife taking vacations across the country. They have lein on any car titles but that doesn't help because he puts them in his brother's name or his new wifes name. If men don't want to pay they don't have to plain and simple.

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  by dadsgetawaywmurder on June 15th, 2012

• well u commented on my ex the 911 and her new cop bf. i lost a good jobs cause of it i make only 10$ and hour and only 36 hours a week but still pay 325$ a month per kid i have 2 with her that im not aloud to she so hince my question please refer to it.

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  by crazycatmando on October 3rd, 2012

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• True. True.

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  by Bree1980 on June 25th, 2008

• I have not known a female personally that ever did that. However I have heard the stories,.,. some ppl just simply should not be allowed to reproduce!

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  by nani77 on January 7th, 2011

• yup, where a condom idiot.

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  by arial on February 9th, 2011

• Um arial - before you going calling people idiots, it's "wear", not "where". I think he'd know "where" to put it already! ;)

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  by Unicorn Man on February 16th, 2011

• Takes two to tango.

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  by kassie1990 on February 25th, 2011

• wow your a dip shit, you knock her up. She keeps it knowing you might bail, you do. then call her a slut for getting pregnant - by you. you are seriously a moron.let me guess she cares for the child FT and you work at jiffy lube? BUT, shes a slut. I love when guys say she got pregnant! ( all by her self obviously ). seriously ignorant. I anxiously await your educated response..phhfffffffffff hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

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  by KayGLincnc on February 28th, 2011

• Obviously, you don't have much respect for women with those kind of derogatory remarks. "Destroy a guy's life"? If "the guy" involved didn't care enough to wear a condom when he had sex, then he is equally responsible for her getting pregnant. It's as much HIS responsiblitly for birth control as HERS. If s guy doesn't want a woman to "destroy his life" by her getting pregnant, then he should either "keep it in his pants" or wear a condom. He shouldn't depend on a woman to use birth cotrol, especially if he suspects that she has ulterior motives. A man should be more selective about his sex partners, too. All women are NOT "little gold diggin sluts that get pregnet (SIC) for the fun of it".

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  by WolfWarrior7 on March 11th, 2011

• Spit does'nt make babies... just saying

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  by hateulyingbitches on June 2nd, 2011

• You are ridiculous... a woman who gets pregnant for the money and to ruin your life? Do you have any idea how expensive or hard it is to raise a child?
  
  I don't know any females who have done that, and if someone did, they are pretty stupid. The money is not worth the responsibilities that come with a child.

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  by I gave her a wink and a smile on June 28th, 2011

• More fool the man who falls for it. wrap it x

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  by KaceyGG on July 31st, 2011

• My fiance, before I met him had passed out at a party, and the bitch jumped on top. He didn't realize it til he woke up after he finished. Sad thing is, she admited it. And know he pays the bitch child support. Plus she's been with the same man since that baby was born. Wtf? So she has a man to take care of her and that child (which is 11 now) plus free income from child support and my fiance has never been able to see the child. Females please, men are not the only person who needs to be on birth control. Anyone who has sex, be on birth control and stop blaming on the men. Takes tow to make a baby and when ur not protecting yourself then deal with it yourself.

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  by Anonymous on August 25th, 2011

• Anonymous,how is that only the woman's fault?Your fiance should have been more careful at the party so that he didn't pass out and not know what's going on.It's both their faults whether he likes it or not!

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  by ShortGirl1990 on October 23rd, 2011

• Short girl if a man had done that to a woman he would be in jail for rape.
  
  Are you saying that if a woman passes out at a party and a man jumps on top of her and rapes her that it's her fault for passing out?

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  by Unicorn Man on October 23rd, 2011

• How about the sperm donors that don't use condoms? OR get vasectomies??? Yes, I want to have sex with you, I love you...you are the most beautifullest woman in the world. Yes, its all the womans fault.

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  by zapshouse on May 1st, 2012

• destroy the guys life? ru delusional? do u have some kind of grudge against women? whos responsibility is it to keep their dick in their pants or use a condom? yet its the womans fault for getting pregnant? NO U FUCKING IGNORAMUS ITS THE MANS FAULT FOR NOT WEARING A CONDOM U DUMBASS!

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  by huriye.kantar on May 23rd, 2012

• a lady is not a lady if she cant keep her legs shut...a man is a dog but hey tis there nature ,the slut new it when she opened her legs to make herself feel special:)and had the baby to make herself feel loved...hey there is a reason there is so much birthcontrol out there for women the baby grow in there belly,all of it.the woman is responsible she knows a man is dumb when it comes to sex(no offence men!) and might i remind every one of the plan B pill,if u did not go take that after then u patheticly assumed thiss man would have a relationship with u and dissappointed took revenge by getting childsupport and running his life anyway.

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  by tamara.l.camp on July 27th, 2012

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• Yes, funny how when the shoe's on the other foot and it's a woman who's not paying the support how people go quiet. "Oh, it's not a __man__ who's not paying child support? That's alright then."

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  by Unicorn Man on May 9th, 2011

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• AJryan is right, and women usually make less $ for the same job than men so you cant always blame the woman for her income. And stop calling women sluts, if they choose to have sex then thats their own business not yours.

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  by Led Zeppelin on February 4th, 2011

• they do, they raise the children AND WORK while men are out having fun, but at least men can contribute in some way since they aren't around to share their responsibility by caring, nuturing a life time commitment, they can do the absolute least by financially contributing, and this to me is still getting off scott FREE.

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  by arial on February 9th, 2011

• Sounds like you have some real issues with women in general, or you wouldn't use such derogatory terms. YOU had just as much responsibility as HER to put a condom on before YOU had sex with her and produced a child. BOTH of you are responsible here, and if she has to take care of the children most of the time (a huge, time-consuming job in itself) and you don't, then YOU should definitely be paying for the child or children's financial support. Sounds like you resent that fact, and "blame" your ex-wife or girlfriend for something YOU had a part in. If you don't want to pay child support then why don't you go for a 50/50 custody arrangment? Or GROW UP man, and realize that your child or children dessrve your emotional and financial support, as you are his/her/their father. Stop whining and "fixing blame" on the woman you slept with. YOU knew the consequences of unprotected sex, too. "Man up" and support your child or children, and stop bitching. They deserve nothing less from you...a caring and responsible father.

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  by WolfWarrior7 on March 11th, 2011

• Surprise parent may be very harsh, but he has a point.
  
  Nearly everyone who says "it takes two to tango" then go on to pretty much blame only the man.
  
  Nearly everyone says that the man should have "kept it in his pants" but no criticism is given to the woman for the same thing.
  
  In fact anyone who dares to criticize the woman for the same thing is severely censured.
  
  Can you people not see what a gross double standard this is.
  Can anyone see that?

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  by Unicorn Man on May 9th, 2011

• So your just blaming women?That's exactly what some women are doing as well by blaming just the men!You are saying that women are only blaming the men and it makes you upset,yet your blaming only women.You are doing the exact same thing!Your not any better than anyone else.

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  by ShortGirl1990 on October 23rd, 2011

• Oh brother short girl! Of course I'm not blaming only the women, I'm saying don't only blame the men. Can you see the difference?

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  by Unicorn Man on April 11th, 2012

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• Women spread their legs too. Don't think it doesn't happen. There are men who are sluts, as well as women. No matter the sex, our youth has been mis-educated in school. Being told simply not to have sex until marriage does nothing. Maybe we should let kids be kids and simply give them easily available free tools that will enable them to prevent unwanted pregnancy. Don't be so naïve.

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  by supriseparent7757 on August 31st, 2010

• Agreed - sex education all around! Condoms should be given out in the schools, I think. Dudes, anytime you have sex there's a chance this could happen, and once there's a baby you have to pay your fair share. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR A BABY, WEAR A CONDOM. The end.

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  by lizvelrene on September 2nd, 2010

• Well just in case people forgot it takes 2 to tango. So stop being easy and quit trying to trap the guy with a baby because you think that having a baby will keep you together. So if he should keep it in his pants then she too can keep her legs shut and panties on.

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  by hateulyingbitches on June 2nd, 2011

• If you're so concerned about being trapped, WEAR A CONDOM. Jesus christ. Take control of your own fertility - get a vasectomy, or keep it wrapped. Don't put all the blame on the other party when you did NOTHING to prevent pregnancy. If a woman was complaining about getting pregnant when she didn't use any birth control, I would yell at her too. But somehow you guys want to put all the reponsibility for birth control on the girl, and THEN complain when it fails. Nope nope nope. Do it yourself or learn to accept the consequences like a grownup. Whiny little crybabies.

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  by lizvelrene on August 5th, 2011

• horny women

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  by koldkanuck on June 6th, 2012

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• How was your day Shanel?

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  by Zack+1 on December 3rd, 2009

• exhausting! i worked all day and my feet are sore lol

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  by Shanel with an S on December 3rd, 2009

• Well put your feet up and reap the rewards. (^_^)

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  by Zack+1 on December 3rd, 2009

• What about the women?!?! Don't spread your damn legs if u can't take care of your responsibility!!! I'm a mother of three and really get disgusted by these dumb ass women who can't be dependant and take care of their own children. God get your tubes tied if u can't handle it! Poor men getting screwed everyday! I think we all make the child 50/50 and should get 50/50 custody while paying during our own time leaving nobody with extra child support when they don't need it.

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  by rcruz1237 on January 14th, 2012

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• You know i cant stand there and say i dont owe any support cause i do. i wont lie about that. i owe almost a grand a month for 2 kids.
  i would love to see my boys but heres where the crap hits the fan. you talk about men makin the rules but stop and think about it how many fathers just wanna walk away from their children. my wife was all for being married while i was in the military. then after 2 yrs of trying to get her to move away from her parents and the loss of a family heirloom property she decide that she didnt want to be with me anymore. you say men made the rules but they are biased to the womans side. a woman can get an attorney to take payments. do you think a man can? trust me they cant. now all that said yes i did have a decent job heck i wish i still had it. but when you leave for a custody case and find out that she intentionaly cancelled it for one a week later you tend to not have a job when you get back. and before you say well you should have went back for a few days i lived 1400 miles from where the case was put into court all my money was used to get there that was the last time i was able to see my children. that was 2 yrs ago. now i cant even speak to them. so before you praise women too much think about that. and realize it happens to guys all the time. i do realize that there are deadbeats out there and it iritates me that my own father calls me one. he never payed child support just tried to throw my mother in prison with false accusations. to me thats the definition of a deadbeat.im sorry if i offended anyone just sayin what im seeing. if anyone has advice to help me out please email me i could realy use something other than my family sayin just sign away your rights. you can email me at buddman342@yahoo.com just put in the subject line child help. thanks

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  by buddman34 on January 11th, 2010

• well ask yourself this then what if the man always payed for is kids then lost his job and house and all living where ever he can!looking for work everywhere do you think he should go to jail even when he is trying because that happens every day! Like me I payed this woman 467.00 a month by law and still gave her more money when she needed it and buyed eveything the kid needed now I lost my job because of the flood in nashvill tenn and they are trying to put me in jail!I don't think it is right I go to jail and set while she sets at home on her fat ass and watches tv!

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  by Wiliam_S on September 29th, 2010

• hell no if u think that makes u deserve respect ur nuts however from the kids yes to males no. if u r a b222h then stop being one stop being so dam nasty and he would respect u i hate women that think like that and think that they should get i really dont know in a mans world it would be an ass beating called an attitude adjustment but that not really the right thing to do either ................. oh well i really dont know

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  by Mark_N4001 on October 4th, 2010

• How do you know it was a man who made these laws? I think it was a law makers wife sitting at home on her fat a*s watching soaps and crying "why wont some one think of the children" and the the lawmaker replied "good idea, there could be big money in this business of child support". And so it began, more men hating women than ever while the lawmakers are getting richer than ever.

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  by flipp70 on October 7th, 2010

• What about women who lie to their children in order to have an affair, leave their father for a millionaire, and then is awarded custody and still takes $1000.00 a month child support from him? What about the women that refuse to spend child support money on the kids when they aren't paying any bills whatsoever and on top of that aren't working. What about women who dress their kids in designer clothes, but neglect their children emotionally in order to attend to their sugar daddy? Some women carry children in their bodies and that is the end of it. They use their children as pawns in order to gain control over a man that they left in the dust. Many times really good men that are excellent fathers. Fathers that pay their huge amount of child support and were completely destroyed because of the emotional hell they were put through as victims of an affair. Many times they are lied about and their character is attacked only to cover up the selfish and manipulative ways of the type of women that would sell out her family for money. Not all dad's who pay their child support are deserving of the financial strain and painful removal of their children. Especially when the custodial mother refuses to send clothes, loves to send bills in bulk (a year past due), and is eager to consistently use all of the other passive-aggressive tricks of the selfish mother trade. Many children would love to spend more time with their fathers and are not allowed to because "it's not his time" or he must work to keep her in gucci and gold.

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  by sadforgooddads on January 7th, 2011

• Godsdiamond,
  
  I don't even know your situation and I already know you are one of those pathetic, lazy moochers who milk your babdy daddy for all he is worth. You spend his hard earned money on your fancy car, cell phone and clothes while he is at work EARNING his money. You are worth NOTHING lady. And guess what? I'm a woman and I could not disagree with your post anymore than I do now. Stop acting like we are all on your side. The FATHER is the one who is almost always the one getting screwed over. The only time I would agree with you is if he cheeted and left the woman. Otherwise, if a woman is milking a father for child support b/c she doesn't want to work hard or work at all, she is BENEATH him!! Woman like that are completely and totally WORTHLESS! I can't stand how society always makes them the victim. If you cared about the child, you would provide for them regardless of child support from the father. What this comes down to is you are lazy and want to get out of getting a job. If you had a job and income of your own, you wouldn't have written this post. Lady, YOU are the one who manipulated your ex to shoot his sperm into YOUR vagina to carry a child in YOUR body. So enough with the "I'm the victim/I deserve money" attitude!
  
  MEN...IF YOU DON'T HAVE A LAWYER, GET ONE!! MAKE THE WOMAN GET A JOB!

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  by needketchup on January 15th, 2011

• GodsDiamond - "men make the rules"?
  
  Good one men, make it so the man gets no choice in whether the woman has a baby or not, loses custody and has to pay for 18 to 21 good years of his life, pay a percentage based on his gross income that doesn't take his expenses into account and go to jail if he can't afford to pay, along with hardened criminals.
  
  Even if she is remarried to a millionaire, living a life of luxury, has no need for the money, uses the money for drugs and simply wants to screw as much money out of her ex as possible to make him suffer.
  
  So men made those rules? In that case men are pretty damned tough on other men, aren't they?
  
  Good deal for the men isn't it? Imagine if women made the rules.

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  by Unicorn Man on February 16th, 2011

• GodsDiamond.... I'm a woman and mother!!! I had to laugh, and read to my husband what you wrote!! Are you sure your not my husbands ex-wife...who divorced my husband for a 20 year old boy(she was 42 at the time), did not want the 3 kids for 5 years and my husband never asked for child support.
  After I found out I had cancer and started a long battle, his ex wife decided she would take the kids back, since they were teenagers and old enough to take care of themselves! The court awarded her $800.00 a month, half of my husbands paycheck(since they go by gross amount-dont get that)I'm pretty sure a man didnt decide on most of this!! So, while she lived in the nice 5 bedroom, 3 bath home that my husband built for them with her new (very young) husband, we were losing our home and filing for bancruptcy!! on top of everything else....in order for her to get the kids back from us to begin with, she had to say my husband was an abusive dad. He was a very loving and understanding dad, who would do anything for his kids!!
  My husband has not seen his kids in 2 years, becouse of "GREED", and a self absorbed, sociopathic, non-maternal bitch!!
  So,Your words of "Honor your childrens mother even if they are good or bad"!! Honor and respect is earned!! My guess is you have several children(maybe different dads) and receive child support, maybe welfare and stay home!! I feel sorry for your ex-husband!!
  P.S. You dads out there do get a bad deal!! There has to be someone that can lobby and change the laws so that men can live, see their children and have a life after divorce!

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  by Jenelle_R on March 12th, 2011

• Thank you Jenelle, even though I've never been through anything like this myself, I hate injustice, ignorance and hypocrisy; and I see so much thoughtless anti-male sentiment when it comes to this topic.
  
  You are so right - men do have to lobby to challenge these incredibly unfair and sexist rules. I do believe that the time for a wave of men's liberation is approaching. Women's liberation has taken care a great deal of injustices against women, but today's feminism is not at all concerned with injustice against men, in fact it actively advocates it. A time where inequalities and sexist anti-male laws that are now suffered by men will come to light and will be dealt with. And just as with women's liberation, just as with emancipation, black power and gay rights, it will take a vocal minority to change the tide of popular public opinion.
  
  And in parting I like to quote you:-
  
  There has to be someone that can lobby and change the laws so that men can live, see their children and have a life after divorce!

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  by Unicorn Man on May 9th, 2011

• "Men make the rules"!? Are you DRUNK?

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  by Jules_A on May 11th, 2012

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• Exactly - in some cases, yes the man is a deadbeat for not paying his child support when he is earning plenty of money and could easily help out a struggling mother. He is severely looked down upon and insulted, perhaps rightfully.
  
  But there are also plenty of cases where a woman basically leeches money from a man who can't afford it, and that sickens me.
  
  But why are people not outraged about this? Women leeching money from men who cannot afford it when they are driving around in BMW's and living the high life. This is wrong.
  
  And I get so sick of people droning "he should have kept it in his pants." Such a glib and thoughtless thing to say.
  
  Why don't they say "Well she shouldn't have opened her legs". Oh no couldn't say that. That'd be sexist. Let's stick to slagging off the men, that's not sexist at all!
  
  One day people will look back at this time and realize the amazing anti-male double standard that currently exists. Until then, rock on ignorant and glib people with your "it takes two to tango" and "he should have kept it in his pants" comments - long live your ignorance!

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  by Unicorn Man on May 9th, 2011

• She has 'always' lived with her parents? You mean you lived with them two while the 2 of you were together? Or where you just hooking up with her and in the meantime, you accidentally had children?
  if you knew she lived with her parents, what were you thinking? After the first child, you kept going. You picked her, buddy, suck it up.

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  by Grandma Roses - my avatar is my real dog on May 22nd, 2011

• Typical of the total lack of empathy or sympathy many women have towards men in this predicament. Judgment instead of understanding, and a complete inability to put themselves into someone else's shoes, to try to see things from the point of view of the opposite sex, or even try for a second to think about how unfair these laws can be. Try for just five minutes to think about how you might feel if you were the man in this situation and this happened to you, (or one of your sons, or one of your grandsons). If you have even the remotest ability to see things from another's point of view you may return and change your answer. However let's face it - pride's at stake here and you're much more likely to stick to your guns than dare to consider looking at it in a different way.

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  by Unicorn Man on May 22nd, 2011

• I don't get it.
  Lack of empathy for someone who has sex with someone who he knows is not supporting themselves?
  Lack of empathy for someone who takes no responsibility for his part in contraception?
  Complete inability to put themselves in someone else's shoes? You mean the father's inability to put himself in his children's shoes and realise how he is depriving them?
  He had more than one child with this woman. They SHARED responsibility for contraception and for the children that resulted from their mutual decision to engage in sex.
  This is not even about the man or the woman. This issue is about the children and their right to be provided for by both parents.
  Making it about the conflict between the parents is the usual sleight of hand that distracts from the real issue.

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  by Grandma Roses - my avatar is my real dog on May 22nd, 2011

• Go back and read what he wrote, he is paying her (not the kids) over $1400 per month. I wonder how much of that actually goes to the kids and how much of it goes to mum?
  Hmmm here's a clue - look at the car she's driving.
  
  Now she made the same mistake with contraception that he did, so why is it only him that gets slammed for it while she gets rewarded for making the exact same mistake?

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  by Unicorn Man on May 22nd, 2011

• Guys there is an excellent organization that fights for equal rights, fights these unfair laws - fathers and families. They have had some victories and the more people that join, the more these injustices can be dealt with and rectified.
  
  Give their site a visit, it's http://www.fathersandfamilies.org/

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  by Unicorn Man on May 24th, 2011

• For every woman who collects excessive child support, there are just as many men who avoid, lie, and do anything to get out of paying. BTW, in Canada, the government decides how much child support a woman is paid, not the woman.
  
  My friend has a son. His father collects a welfare cheque and works making good money under the table. Short of ratting him out, which she doesn't want to do, she gets ZERO dollars child support, because his income is too low!!! She's pretty much forced to take what she can get or toss him to the courts, where she would still get nothing!

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  by Sunshine on September 1st, 2011

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• Best answer!

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  by The Chief on June 29th, 2011

• Or women can keep their legs closed. Its a 50/50 process.

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  by rcruz1237 on January 14th, 2012

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• And I know 21 year old woman with 5 baby daddies too. And this woman lives on welfare, has lost custoday of atleast two of her kids, and never works... Your point is? Woman get away with all kinds of crap too... Men are not the only ones to blame.

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  by rdhededangl on January 28th, 2012

• Yes, there is blame enough to go around, if blaming people is a means of solving the problem- which it is not. Men have sex without taking responsibility and so far as suffering is concerned, it is first the child and then the mother who bears the brunt of the pain. We all know women with children from different fathers, even in middle class America there are millions of them. Stereotypes (welfare moms laying around all day, etc. etc.) turn out not to be the accurate picture of poverty in America. Women who "are getting away with all kinds of crap..." are nontheless living in povety. The hdegefund managers who have billions of dollars and are responsible for at least a portion of the poverty in America (and the political system that protects the rich but leaves the poor vunerable). There is a solution.

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  by GibsonGuy on May 23rd, 2012

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• wow, only 700 a month for several children??? My daycare costs that alone for my children, before food, clothing, school expenses, field trips, broken items around the house, their share of electric, rent for a bigger home with more bedrooms, water bill higher, 700 child support is CHEAP!!

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  by angbillings on June 13th, 2011

• yea, but angbillings childcare costs mean you will pay throgh the nose. Child support is not cost effective unless you are professionally trained and can make the time count. It would be more economically viable to forefit one income and care full time... And that is what marriage is for.

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  by Benjamin_P on February 11th, 2012

• You pay for them but SHE is doing all the work of raising them, so I disagree with your $350 theory.

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  by Nightly_M on April 30th, 2012

• Childcare for 3 children a week is $500, just for the week. That comes to $2000 a month. I don't think you took that into consideration. The problem is dads can spout off how much they are being robbed but they have no idea what it takes to care for several children.

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  by dadsgetawaywmurder on June 15th, 2012

• i guess know one read the last part, he said he would gladly take them... now a real father wants there kid . but moms r like "no u cant take my baby!"..."o but its so hard give me ur money"

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  by tamara.l.camp on July 27th, 2012

• Well I subscribe to a fairly old philosophy. If you don't live under my roof, you're not entitled to my financial support...
  
  Yes child care is expensive, we all know that. But perhaps you should have considered that before you got divorced. Two adults living in separate housing, both working, and sending their kids off to child care is darn expensive. Of course it costs money! No wonder the woman is in financial difficulty, because she's allowed herself to get into an un-viable financial siduation. Futhermore, taking the kids away from their father has removed from them the joy's of fatherhood - then being asked to pay. So fathers not in that great a siduation either.

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  by Benjamin_P on August 4th, 2012

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• I believe women are driven on the materialistic items in life. Nails, Hair, Tanning, cloths, fashion. If there was only a way to enforce women to have to provide receipts of child support money spent. That way it can be documented on if the money is being properly distributed to the "child" Isn't that why they call it CHILD support and not Mommy's lifestyle Support?

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  by James_S4829 on June 28th, 2011

• i totally agree with you. i'm in australia, live in a blended family (which is hell most days!!) and also think they need to cap the fathers income more appropriately. especially when the mothers have sat on welfare and continued to breed in order to get more money. you are right, child support is about supporting the childrens needs...not supporting their mothers way of life and habits. !!! $4200/mth!! i earn less than half that per month, don't get maintenance from my sons father and still manage to support us while studying a biomedical science degree. i do also believe the women who whinge about not getting enough child support should quit being pathetic and get a freaking job, clean toilets if you have to..discover some self pride and take responsibility for yourselves and stop thinking 'poor me'...its so sad...what lessons does all of this teach our children? the animosity alone isn't good for them

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  by Sandy_O8256 on September 11th, 2011

• That is an outrageous amount to pay. I think it should be standardized. I am in Canada, I believe it should be standardize much like our child tax credit which is $290 a month for a child and goes down as they get older. My ex was ordered to pay $220 a month, he has never paid to date 3 yrs later, and now is in arrears, no licence and no passport. He blames me, says if I remove it he would pay. I just say ya right, because without agencies like the child support agencies I think even more non custodial parents would default.
  
  It takes two to make the child, there fore it takes two to raise that child, both emotionally and finacially. I know my son will be more affected by the fact his father is too lazy to get off his ass and come and see him than he will by no child support. The emotional part is more essential but it won't ever happen as long as he is with the crazy woman who charged him with rape upon receiving the court papers. He is still with her, guess he likes being beaten and falsely charged all the time.
  
  That is another thing I don't get, the new wife gets with him then she thinks the m other going for child support is all about her and out to get her, she hates it tries to make the mother and child miserable out of her own insecurities, but yet before getting with these guys more often than not they know they have an ex and children that he should be responsible to. THey claim he has to take care of his children and its taking from them (in some cases it is) and how they take care of their own children by themselves. I don't believe that living off your mans income on either side is supporting your children, so new women, give it up. It isn't about you, it's about the children, stop being so selfish, the children were around before you were.

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  by sumyungal on October 7th, 2011

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• Yeah...this could go for the woman too.

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  by Goodad on September 2nd, 2010

• @ random - so why is it only the man's responsibility? Why shouldn't a woman also be responsible?

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  by Unicorn Man on February 16th, 2011

• Really!?!?! What a fucking hypocrite!!! I'm a mother of 3 and I say a women has a say in spreading her damn eggs just as Much!! Everything u said can be flung back in your face! A women should own up just as much and get a damn job!!!!

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  by rcruz1237 on January 14th, 2012

• We used a condem and still got pregnant

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  by Taz1 on April 18th, 2012

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• What I do not understand is how woman have the right to abort or even give the baby up with out any consequences, while men are held accountable for for 10s of thousands$$ or more and even go to prison
  for not paying. I am beginning to think that this whole idea of child support is nothing but a source of revenue for law firms and other associated institutions. If child support did not exist, the divorce rate would be extremely low. This would hurt the American law industry and half of this nations lawyers and others of the like would have to get real jobs.

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  by flipp70 on October 7th, 2010

• no maam you are wrong about your opinion. men and women intimidate each other 50\50. women have the upperhand in court. yall talk that morals crap but dont get the big picture. having 1 child is rough so the minute you 2 knew you were pregnant it was a problem. if you know both of you are gonna struggle then why have the child. now you got the courts in both of your biz,the child loses in the end any way,then when he or she gets old enough to understand trust children will then you and him look dumb instead of making the right choice by not bringing a child into this world struggling

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  by maybach62 on January 21st, 2011

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• woman let be just say this maybe with the way things for this man is out on the side on the road sleeping with no job nothing to eat and maybe dieing who knows!locking someone up for not paying child support is bad and I will tell you why! if he is in jail are you getting money?The answer is hell no! Can he find a job in there?Hell no! it is hard on a man now of days to find work to take care of his self why dont woman stop having babys with people they don't stay with is what I would like to know!

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  by Wiliam_S on September 29th, 2010

• Here here William! Locking a man up for this is outrageous, he may have his reasons why he can't afford it and to treat him like a criminal for this is so patently wrong it beggars belief!

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  by Unicorn Man on May 24th, 2011

• for gods sake Yari...go and get a different job or better qualifications. don't rely on the man..get some self respect and stand on those two feet god gave you. be the stong independant woman you were meant to be!!! men can't even multitask!!...getting him put in jail for not paying child support is totally below any self respecting woman.
  and as a woman, i believe, if you can't support your child/children on your own then you should not have had them in the first place. It is more the womans responsibility to ensure safe sexual practices are adhered to. after all, when the shit hits the fan, whose usually left holding the kids?!

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  by Sandy_O8256 on September 11th, 2011

• My ex is not poor, sleeping on the side of a road, he's actually partying it up in Mexico with his mistress homewrecker. Yet he claims he's unemployed, so I don't get any money from him. I don't know his address down there so I can't find him to enforce anything. I'm a strong woman and support a mortgage and household all on my own (and did for yeas when we were married to support his unemployed ass). But fact is, he should be covering some expenses of our child. I'm reading so many sympathy posts on here for the men, but believe me, there are some men who work the system also.

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  by madalinep on April 11th, 2012

• I get what you're saying Madeline. This is such an emotional issue and as you said, both men and women can work the system. In this case it seems your ex has really shafted you and should pay towards the children. Such a shame that people so often refuse to do the right thing.
  
  If the law was left out of it and he paid you a fair amount towards it that'd be great, but I can see why you're looking at the jail option.
  
  I can only wish you the best of luck, or maybe you or your friends could do some detective work to find him or even hire one. If you know the suburb and his SS you're off to a good start.

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  by Unicorn Man on April 11th, 2012

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• Well said!

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  by Grandma Roses - my avatar is my real dog on May 7th, 2011

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• It's the same here in California. It's ok that my husband gave the kids mother all kinds of help, financially and other such as fixing her car, helping move furniture, being a taxi, gave her a lump sum of $8,000 at one point when he had the money from his retirement, then he quit his job because of alcohol, been unemployed for two years, has been desperately trying to find another job, got disability because of his knee, she found out that we didn't tell her he started getting disability, that's when she opened the child support case. Now he's getting screwed, and me along with him because I'm the sole bread winner. His two kids dress, eat, and live better than we do. They ARE NOT DEPRIVED OR LACKING - THEY ARE SPOILED ROTTEN AND BRATS!!! What's wrong with this picture? She's a greedy bitch, that's what the problem is.

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  by Ajayla7283 on November 27th, 2010

• Same boat here in Washington state...My husband is paying his EX $800 in spousal support, and $1460 in child support for 3 kids, while we're a family of 6, my 3 and his son with his EX... while she claims she is disabled but has held plenty of jobs in the past it doesnt matter, doesnt matter if she has nothing showing the court she's disabled or not, it's her word and apparently it's golden, so she doesn't have to provide for them....what kind of BULLSHIT is this??? Her income exceeds what net income comes into our household, can't even afford to pay the bills, filed bankrupcy, but it don't matter...

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  by hatenthesystem on February 15th, 2011

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• What....you're a millionaire? Money is life. It shouldn't come before you're children, but anyone who says "don't worry about money" doesn't have a mortgage (or rent), car payment, electric bill, insurance, gas, food. If money didn't play a part, then we wouldn't be typing here right now.
  Here's the typical scenario: Couple gets divorced. Wife gets custody of children. Father says he wants more custody, but that is not what the "system" finds acceptable, so he is denied. Father has to find a place to live. He was barely affording the mortgage (or rent) when they were together, but now he has to find his own place. Along with this place comes bills. Along with the mothers place comes bills. The mother is overwhelmed, so she uses the system to get as much money out of the father as possible. Well...the "system" doesn't give a crap about bills, so they say "ok...he makes 5000 a month....she makes 2000 a month...lets plug it in the calculator and give her 1200 a month child support" How is that fair? 1200 after tax dollars becomes another bill to the dad....he doesn't see that as his kids well being....he sees that now he can't afford to eat or pay for his car. So now the "system has started a downward spiral that creates resentment and hatred. REVISE THE SYSTEM!

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  by Goodad on September 2nd, 2010

• Yea! U can say what ever u want but when CS ask for $2500 a month and I only make $1200 there is something really wrong with that. For 20 years the CS has taken half of my check and I lived most of the 20 years. I could not even see my children because of licensed taken from me. So, I became a truck driver to be able to take care of myself and my children and recieved my licensed back. And guess what they did? They suspended my license even though they new were I work so they could do a wage assignment on me. Thats chicken shit. So now I lost my job. They would not return my license back because I owed rears. How can I pay if I have no job. They don't care. This is 11 years from the suspension date, now they say i owe $189,000 in rears. I paid half of my pay check. Paid what I could and never got see my chidren I love because of this system I lived on the street. They would never work with me. No father in california is really a dead beat father. The system is a scam and believe it is.

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  by Richard_W7602 on January 29th, 2011

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• Sounds to me like some one is looking for a free ride.
  You should just buck up and take care of the responsibility that you could have easily aborted or given up to adoption. Had you made one of these decisions would you want people calling you a coward or taking your pay?

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  by flipp70 on October 7th, 2010

• Sounds like you and your daughter are better of,

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  by KaceyGG on July 31st, 2011

• ALL MEN ARE LOSERS ESPECIALLY IN AMERICA SWEETHEART THERES NOTHING U CAN DO ABOUT IT!

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  by huriye.kantar on May 23rd, 2012

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• "alot" is not a word. Sorry. (Nor is "alittle."

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  by GibsonGuy on August 17th, 2011

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• Sorry to hear that. Hope you are okay.

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  by Texasescimo on April 24th, 2011

• it's ok. thanks. i'm fine. He's a horrible dad.

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  by Lonewolf80 on April 25th, 2011

• I hope that you really are fine but I know its gotta still hurt.

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  by Texasescimo on April 25th, 2011

• it does hurt. but i am fine.

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  by Lonewolf80 on April 25th, 2011

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• Miss Garlic, when I read comments from thoughtful people like you, my heart sings as I realize that not everyone is self interested and gender biased.
  
  You have gotten past the automatic knee-jerk reaction of the masses who spout out "it takes two to tango", but go on to entirely blame the man, and "If he doesn't like it he should have kept it in his pants" with monotonous regularity.
  
  Thank you for showing me that some women can be fair and even handed and see it from both sides of the coin.
  
  You are absolutely right and the law desperately needs to be redressed. I believe that there ought to be means testing of both the man and the woman in this regard, and the men should be treated as equal human beings instead of the second class punching bags they are now.
  
  I also believe that there are times when the kids truly are better off with the father. In cases like that, I do wonder - is the mother expected to pay child support, or do we have yet another double standard there, too?

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  by Unicorn Man on May 9th, 2011

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• It's BOTH parties "fault" and "mistake" if a woman gets pregnant. BOTH parties are equally responsible for birth control, not just the woman involved. IF a child is born, and the father does not have full physical custody of the child, then he should pay child support based on his income and the time he spends raising and visiting that child. He is NOT "off the hook" because he just visits his child. He can reduce that child support amount by seeing his child more often and taking more responsibility for raising him or her. IF you don't want to pay child support, then "keep it in your pants" or wear a condom. Or "man up" and pay for the child you helped make. Don't blame a woman for YOUR irresponsible actions, you are just as responsible as her for making a baby. And YES, it is YOUR choice to sleep with a woman, not just HERS.

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  by WolfWarrior7 on March 11th, 2011

• haha, at the comment its the woman who decides if you use a condom or not.
  
  Do you have a problem saying no condom, no sex? You are responsible for your own birth control protection, don't leave the responsibility in another persons hands. Such a stupid way to be, but then again some people will fuck everything and anything and not really care of the consequences because for a short moment in time, they were thinking with the wrong head.

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  by sumyungal on October 7th, 2011

• Last year my best friend and i lived together, we had sex and i fell pregnant. i told him about it and gave him the choice to be past of the child's life or not. i offered to make it legal if if didn't want to. He said he would take responsibility. He then went on to have unprotected sex with two other women on my couch in my house. He made my pregnancy hell. He came with to all doctors visits except one. He kept telling me he will pay the next one. i paid it all without complaining. our son came a month early and he was there. He was fantastic. He then later complained that his arms hurt from restraining me and i had ruined his first child birth experience. I was at a government hospital where they believe in doing it completely natural. I could not push hard enough as i hadn't slept well in a week, so they had to use foreceps and cut my vagina to get him out. So all went well and i stayed with his parents for a week. i then went home. I am unable to breast feed and he has issues with regular formula so has to be on hypoallergenic formula which is almost double the price of the regular ones. My son is just over 3 months old. He goes through a tin of formula a week. I got unpaid maternity leave. So far, he has bought one small tin, the smallest one available and paid one cheap consultation for vaccinations. the vaccines are free. That's it. I can't claim child support as he has no proof of income or a bank account. He registered the child and got the birth certificate which he refuses to give me. he wasted money he doesn't have for a dna test. wow. its his. big surprise. Promised he would pay child support. i heard from him the day we got the results. and all he could say is i feel better how about you. I haven't asked him once for money. Coz what happens, i get used to him paying school fees for example then all of a sudden he doesn't them i am responsible and its not in my budget. so i simply Dont rely no him. yes it would help but i doubt ill get anything from him who paid he doesn't run away from his responsibility. So yes, its both our responsibility, but he chose to ignore his. so i am left with it. I prefer it that way. So some of you women should stop complaining. i earn minimum wage, i have a 3 month old and my mom to care for. I have a scooter, i Dont have a car coz i can't afford one. I rode it til a week afford i went into labour. i came off twice and broke my foot and to top it off he kicked me out my own house. so i moved as well broken foot and all. Some men i will take my hat off to as for the rest of you sperm donors, i have nothing to say. As for you lazy ass women, learn to rely on yourself, you dont need a man for you to be the best mom you can be. You've been given a gift. cherish your little one and love him or her enough to be a better mom for then and set the right examples and not buy your 9 year old a Damn blackberry to keep then out of your hair!

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  by Tarryn_K on May 5th, 2012

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• A mans number one prize in life are his children.
  This woman must have done somthing to push him a way. Maybe she was misinformed by our lawmakers and thought she could push him away
  and easily draw a wealth of child support.

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  by flipp70 on October 7th, 2010

• Not always Flipp70
  
  My ex's number one prize in his life are all the women he can have sex with while telling them he has a vasectomy. Stupidly they believe him even after a couple have asked me if it is true or not. He never had a vasectomy.
  
  So his number one prize is his penis, his children are not.

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  by sumyungal on October 7th, 2011

• My ex husband never contributed to the household and when the children were born I was responsible to buy all for their needs. I ended up paying thousands in his unpaid taxes that he didnt inform me of until they took my return the following 2 years because we filed joint. I was young and thought he would change but after realizing he wouldn't I divorced him and got sole custody. I will add that this man had a good paying job making double my salary but never paid for anything while we were together so I guess I couldn't expect him to pay anything for his prizes as you call them. The only prize in that man's life was himself and still is. Now he has baby with someone 11 years younger and he is manipulating her.

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  by dadsgetawaywmurder on June 15th, 2012

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• I think the only time most women finally get that these laws can be tremendously unfair to men is when they're faced with a situation like yours. Until then there is very much an "us and them" mentality.

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  by Unicorn Man on February 16th, 2011

• totally agree. incomes should be capped for child support calculations. and mothers who just claim the cash should be forced to get out and get a job. it sux that the more my partner earns, the more we have to pay his skanky breeding ex wife whose only skill is having babies.

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  by Sandy_O8256 on September 11th, 2011

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• that's not a man. live up to your responsibilities.

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  by arial on February 9th, 2011

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• RU REALLY FUCKING HELPING THIS GUY ESCAPE CHILD SUPPORT? GOD! WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THE LOSER MEN IN THIS GENERATION!

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  by huriye.kantar on May 23rd, 2012

• Huriye, I wish I knew. My daughter is now 20 & the saddesr part is now he wants a relationship with her after blowing her off for years & now she doesn'r want one. I wish ALL parents would realize that children grow SO FAST and you can't make up for the years you just couldn't be bothered being a parent

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  by Little big mouth on May 28th, 2012

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• I find it amazing that you are not from this country but have managed to execute a statement that shows the very mentality that we should achieve in this country regarding child support. It speaks well of you that you would not wish to imprison your childs father when he is at a low point and cannot afford to pay right now, and instead choose to encourage him while you struggle yourself. Furthermore I hear your genuine concern for your boyfriend as he struggles with the selfish woman who has betrayed him. May God bless your kindness, may we all learn from your example.

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  by A10thGenerationAmerican on February 28th, 2012

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• Oh, stop it with the common sense! That was totally uncalled for, man.
  
  ;)~

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  by The Chief on February 16th, 2012

• LMAO!

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  by Stu B in his light spring COAT on February 17th, 2012

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• You had a child for the wrong reason. Children are gifts from God. It's your fault that you tried to trap him and it went wrong that'your Karma coming back to bite you on the ass. It's women like you that make women like me look bad it is a damned shame that we have to bust our butts, work 2 jobs and go to school and take care of everything and every bill known to man and this is the thanks that we get because of you!

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  by hateulyingbitches on June 2nd, 2011

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• children should not be allowed to answer such sensitive questions.
  Did you mean to reply "When they are dead" or did you you just kill someone?

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  by flipp70 on October 8th, 2010

• I think she meant "When he is dead".

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  by Unicorn Man on February 16th, 2011

• It is really simple, the only reason I feel that is good enough, is that the father is dead, otherwise HE SHOULD PAY FOR HIS CHILD.
  
  Thanks Unicorn man :-)

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  by Spicy Hot on February 25th, 2011

• Flipp70 - I havent seen a child answer this unless you are speaking of yourself.

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  by Spicy Hot on February 25th, 2011