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So true, Rosie..so true :-(
by Jade on December 15th, 2007
More's the pity, Jade...this used to be a country in which all religions were given equal respect..and now presidential elections are "serviced" by religious extremists..oh, how sad are our founding fathers at this ungodly turn of events! :(
by RosieGHM Jetpacker on December 15th, 2007
Actually, Rosie, “they are the best, they are the only ones, god talks only to them” is the exact antithesis of so-called “Mormonism.” We believe that God loves *all* of His children—every single one of us on the planet—and that He will (and does) speak to each and every one of us. Of course, that doesn’t mean we’re all listening. ;-)
by the Otter on January 9th, 2008
Thank you very much for that information, tO. That is very helpful to me. I hope I didn't offend you, but I have listened to so many "righteous" people talking about their own beliefs as if anyone who disagrees will go to he** or something. I appreciate your setting us straight! :)
by RosieGHM Jetpacker on January 9th, 2008
No problem. We actually do believe a lot of people will go to Hell, but the term “Hell” has a *much* different connotation for Latter-day Saints than it does for most people. We believe the Spirit World—where all of us go, when we die—is divided into two sections known as “Paradise” and “Prison” (the latter of which is also known as “Hell”). In short, Hell is not whether Satan and his devils reside; rather it is the place where those that did not accept the Gospel of Jesus Christ in this life will have the opportunity to accept it the world to come. This means that *everybody* will have a chance to hear the Savior’s Gospel and choose whether to accept or reject it, even if they don’t have that chance in mortality.
Now, of course, this is *not* a “second chance” theory. The Bible is quite clear that if you reject the Savior in mortality, that was your decision and you’re stuck with it. But just as no one will be saved in ignorance (see D.&C. 131:6), neither will anyone be damned in ignorance.
by the Otter on January 9th, 2008
Rosie, your answer is, word for word, what I was going to say. Well, at least the first sentence. The rest is a very close paraphrase, though. Thanks for saving me the time.
by TheicidalManiac on December 7th, 2008
Hi, TM. "Great minds....etcetera". Thank you for your comment and Happy Sunday to you! :) You're welcome, m'dear! :)
by RosieGHM Jetpacker on December 7th, 2008
>Isn't that what all religions believe?<
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No, B'Hai's don't.
http://www.bahai.org/
by Mister IT is trying to Liahona outta here on February 27th, 2009
Thank you for that link, Mister_IT. I just came back from reading the information provided. That is quite beautiful. I didn't know that and thanks to you I do now. Happy Saturday m'dear! :)
by RosieGHM Jetpacker on February 28th, 2009
Yeah the B'hai's are an interesting group/ It's funny that they have such an open take on the beliefs of other groups, yet are some of the most despised people in the middle east. B'hai faith is one of the few religions alive for which adherence can get you killed under sharia law. Strange how tolerance is not tolerated well.
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I guess I'd have to say that not all religions believe that all OTHER religions are *based* on false doctrine, but they do all believe (even the B'hais) that all other religions have at least gotten things wrong along the way. Perhaps they began with truth, but they corrupted it somehow, or maybe they only got a little piece. I'm sure that there are exceptions of this in the form of politically correct PR statements, but the bottom line is that if a religion hasn't monopolized truth and laid exclusive claim to the rights of your salvation, then there is no reason to subscribe to its worldview, and if no one joins it, it just won't last, and we'll never know it existed as anything more than a social club. So...all extant religions do, to some degree, teach that the doctrine of other religions (and not only religions but belief systems) is false.
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Is that better?
by TheicidalManiac on February 28th, 2009
Rosie and T-Maniac. Yes, the H'hai's are indeed a fascinating group. We have quite a few of them out here in L.A. and I've had some interesting conversations with them.
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And yes, T-Maniac I agree that it's intolerance and dogmatic exclusivity that makes religion particularly ugly - and in some cases, particularly brutal.
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Religion sucks.
by Mister IT is trying to Liahona outta here on February 28th, 2009
Mr IT...you make a point of saying that "religion sucks" at nearly every opportunity, but qualifying that statement by asserting your love for your god. Yet I wonder; what sources inform your understanding of your god, if not religious organizations and the texts they chose to canonize? Don't you actually owe a debt of gratitude to religion?
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:P
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(This is the kind of question that could really piss some people off. I don't THINK you will be one of those people. I don't mean this [merely] as a smart-assed comment. Rather it is today's attempt at a penetrating interview question. I'm not trying to make fun, just digging deeper.)
by TheicidalManiac on February 28th, 2009
I owe SOME respect to religion - yes, that's a true statement T-Maniac. Perhaps a better way to say it would be "Religiously Dogmatic Intolerance Sucks!"
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Does that work better for you?
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I find that dogma tends to drive the type of intolerant mindset that you describe in your post. And that's what I really hate - even from those in my own people group. It drives me CRAZY!
by Mister IT is trying to Liahona outta here on February 28th, 2009
"Does that work better for you?"
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Of course. I feel the same way about that. I guess what I was really trying to get at, though, is this: why reject all the periphery of religious tradition and dogma, but cling to the core tenet, that is the existence of a supernatural being or creator. It seems to me that the kind of god that most people believe in is a product of whatever religions they have been exposed to, and that there is little to support the idea of a personal god outside of religious training. Am I wrong?
by TheicidalManiac on March 1st, 2009
T-Maniac you and I are free to believe whatever we wish. The existence of God can neither be empirically proved or disproved despite what either Theists or Atheists may assert.
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AND, yes I believe that people tend to mold God in their own image - Joseph Campbell got that one right. I have seen both observed this dynamic and practiced it myself. So I'm not throwing any stones at that glass house. Culture and childhood training are indeed important factors.
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In the end we must all walk our own paths and make our own choices - no matter how "right" or "wrong" others see it.
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As you can imagine this stance tends to make me a target of both Theists and Atheists. Like you said about the B'Hai's, tolerance of differences tends to draw ire of humans of all ilks for some reason.
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I could deconstruct it psychologically but I won't.
by Mister IT is trying to Liahona outta here on March 1st, 2009
"The existence of God can neither be empirically proved or disproved..."
I'd like to clarify that, if I could. It is true that the mere existence of A god cannot be disproved, in the same way that the existence of a teacup orbiting jupiter, or the flying spaghetti monster, or an invisible, immaterial box resting in your lap cannot be disproved. Existence is not something that can be disproved. That is a limitation of logic and of beings with limited resources.
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On the other hand, existence is PRECISELY the kind of thing that CAN be proved, based on scientific naturalism. God cannot be proven because the hypothesized being is inconsistent with our knowledge of reality. That DOES NOT mean that some god or gods do(es) not exist, but it DOES mean that we have no why to posit the existence thereof. In other words, we don't have plausibility, and until we do, all there is is conjecture.
by TheicidalManiac on March 2nd, 2009
"Culture and childhood training are indeed important factors." I would actually go one further. I would say that they are not only IMPORTANT factors in explaining religious belief, but that they are SUFFICIENT factors to explain religious belief.
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Certainly I am not trying to fire mean-spirited criticisms at you, and I hope I don't come off that way, but I DO want to get at the base of your belief, for curiosity's sake. If you don't want to delve into it, I do recognize that that is perfectly acceptable.
by TheicidalManiac on March 2nd, 2009
>If you don't want to delve into it, I do recognize that that is perfectly acceptable<
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Well maybe some day but not today. However, I do find much to agree with in your posts.
by Mister IT is trying to Liahona outta here on March 2nd, 2009
Likewise
by TheicidalManiac on March 3rd, 2009
all religions of christendom claim to be the true religion. however, as Jesus Christ said that by their works they would prove to be false. the main offender of all these religions is the catholic church, the rest are offshoots of this apostate religion. instead of adhering to what the bible teaches they all are guilty of adopting false doctrines, and pagan rooted demonic customs and practices. this is not to say that God does not have an earthly orgaization that represents his name and strictly abides by his standards and is obeying his statutes. that religion does exist but most will not accept it, it would mean too much personal sacrifice to them, and it would mean having to make drastic changes in their lives, which most are unwilling to accept. the moment they become aware of what religion this is they will immediately begin to look for faults in its members, so as to justify the reason for them not accepting the truth and taking a stand for the truth and God's official agent here on earth.
by autumn leaves on December 6th, 2009