by Mr. Meaulnes on May 13th, 2007

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Friedrich Nietzsche once said "The thought of suicide is a great consolation; by means of it one gets through many a bad night." What are your thoughts on this? Do you believe it is wrong to use the idea of suicide to console yourself?

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by whyme37x37 on July 1st, 2008
This concept is of great help to those living on the edge of a life gone wrong. If the statement "what dosent kill me makes me stronger" has any validity a person going through exceptionaly hard times might use this logic.If things get too bad I can always kill myself, thus giving a person another option or fail-safe to keep trying, although the present circumstances of thier life might seem insurmountable.
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by -O-uknow on May 13th, 2007
Wrong? I find it disturbing.
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by Mushen on May 13th, 2007
How on earth do you console yourself with plotting your own suicide? You'd be much better off consoling yourself with a large bottle of anti-depressants that you got from the doctor.
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- Oh, believe me, there are some times when death looks pretty damn appealing next to all the possible alternatives.
  
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  by Mr. Meaulnes on May 13th, 2007
- Really? Are things that bad? Is there no resolution to the alternatives? Can I have an example (hypothetically). Perhaps there are resolutiuons to be found but 'you can't see the wood for the trees'.
  
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  by Mushen on May 13th, 2007
- It's... Well, pretty impossible to put into words.
  One of those things you'd have to experience firsthand to unerstand it, and trust me, you don't want to.
  
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  by Mr. Meaulnes on May 13th, 2007
- Well, then you have a decision to make. To either stay feeling the same as you are now and do nothing. Or, (and use your brain for this one, it requires logic, not emotion), separate the problem in two: the emotional bits and the factual bits. Then, address the factual bits only - in the same way you would work out the solution to mathmetical problem. Your brain, on it's own (without all the stressy emotional stuff) will be provide you with steps towards the resolution - and they should be practical. There is always a choice, we may not like the choice, but we always have one.
  
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  by Mushen on May 13th, 2007
- I've tried that, that was how I tackled everything from the first.
  But the only thing that does is make it seem so clear that there is no solution.
  
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  by Mr. Meaulnes on May 13th, 2007
- Hi, sorry, I know this is not my conversation but I want to butt in for a second. Mushen: What you say is factually correct. It IS a choice, one that can only be made logically, not with emotion, but when you are in those awful depths there is no logic. None. A logical thought process, like the one you describe is impossible. I guess it's like RFlagg said. You would have to be there yourself to know. And you don't want to.
  
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  by Melissa on May 13th, 2007
- Then that is the time to get some help. I had severe post natal depression but I was also aware that the way I felt was not right and that I had to do something about it.
  
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by twolifes29 on April 21st, 2009
its true for me, but its a shock to me but also encouraging that friedrich nietzsche felt that same, for some reason its helps me calm down
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by Mushen on May 13th, 2007
I'll bet there is; it's just not the solution that you want.

If you are unable to resolve it, then how about accepting things will remain the same as they are now and then 'moving on' so to speak. When nothing can be done, then there is really no point in spending any more time and energy feeling like crap and contemplating death. Afterall, it will make no difference either now or 2 years from now. It will achieve nothing - it's not as if you are paying penance .

What if the solution was to accept that there is no solution? What if you said to yourself 'I am satisfied that I have explored every avenue and accept that I cannot resolve it. It is, what it is and I cannot change it. I'm OK with this. What I can change though, is the way I allow this to make me feel. There is no point to my continuing misery - it will not make a difference & god knows I've tried Therefore, I may just as well feel happy as sad. What's done is done, it's in the past and I may not feel proud of this but that doesn't mean I can't accept it and move on to other things before I waste my life consume by the past.
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