Is this man misinterpreting the Qur'an on child brides,or is he correct?

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• Love you for your provocative comment.Let the debate begin

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  by mike_70 on April 23rd, 2011

• I guess not. The PC squad must have blocked access to this question. No matter, the days of the delusional are numbered and they know it.

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  by Neodarwinian49 on April 23rd, 2011

• Some Muslims argue that Aisha was actually 18 years old;and the ones who support marriage to prepubescent girls claim to be following Muhammad's example.

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  by mike_70 on April 24th, 2011

• Here's a more considered more learned answer: "No - he is confusing historical norms with current ones. Marriage to what we now consider minors was common across all cultures and throughout all religions in historical times." It's by Brian I on April 24th, 2011 and you'll find it @ http://www.answerbag.com/a_view/10627958 Needless to say neither of you liked it.

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  by borasalama on April 28th, 2011

• I told you the rationalizations would begin! These ideologues can go tears without sex, but not a day without a rationalization!

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  by Neodarwinian49 on April 28th, 2011

• rationalisation should have begun with your answer. If we try never to deviate from being reasonable, with our questions and our answers, then we're less likely to veer into prejudice, arrogance, bigotry or hatred.

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  by borasalama on April 28th, 2011

• Yes, always the inaccurate buzz words from those that would enslave humanity with their ridiculous ideologues. I do not prejudge, I judge. The arrogance you display by trying to defend the indefensible bigotry of your sick ideology is what I truly hate. No one has confused anything. This pedophilia still is going on in too many islamic countries and that is just the tip of the barbaric iceberg there.

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  by Neodarwinian49 on April 28th, 2011

• "those that would enslave humanity with their ridiculous ideologues"? Aren't you part of humanity? are you enslaved by Islam?
  
  "I do not prejudge" Good. Live up to it.
  
  "I judge" Try and avoid it. It is a sign of arrogance.
  
  "the indefensible bigotry of your sick ideology" Did you not just state in writing "I do not prejudge"
  
  "...is what I truly hate." and how can that ever produce justice from your "I judge"
  
  "No one has confused anything"? Not even to the extent of wanting to sit in judgement while expressing hatred, or confusing a low age of consent in marriage with paedophilia?
  
  "This pedophilia still is going on in too many islamic countries and that is just the tip of the barbaric iceberg there." erm, you honour ... is marriage paedophilia and aren't we supposed to call for and examine the evidence first? start with http://www.answerbag.com/a_view/4369054
  
  and what is the advice for those who live in glass houses?
  
  "NURSERY worker Vanessa George, convicted of horrific abuse through an internet paedophile ring......"
  
  

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  by borasalama on April 29th, 2011

• False equivalency fallacies and an inability to read plain English. Remind me again why you are worth any time spent replying to your ridiculousness? Rhetorical question. We are through here. Bye ideologue.

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  by Neodarwinian49 on April 29th, 2011

• bye, and do a bit of research before you sit in judgement next time.

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  by borasalama on April 29th, 2011

• Here is a quote from a book by the ayatollah Khomeini on this matter:
  A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate vaginally, but sodomising the child is acceptable. If a man does penetrate and damage the child then, he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl will not count as one of his four permanent wives and the man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister… It is better for a girl to marry at such a time when she would begin menstruation at her husband’s house, rather than her father’s home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven. ["Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth edition, Qom, Iran, 1990]

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  by mike_70 on April 29th, 2011

• Mike, many an employer would love to have, in their employees, the relentlessness you show on this section of AB. That you do try very hard is very clear to see. What it is you're trying to achieve is best left for you to explain.
  
  The HQ has an advice regarding handling of information. It says verify it first. If you act on it without doing so first, even if you just spread it or forwarded it, you might cause harm. You might cause conflict, cause or increase hatred or at least cause embarrassment to yourself and damage your own trustworthiness.
  
  Having never come across the source you quoted I did quite a bit research on it. What I have learnt so far is that it appears to be a weapon in the arsenal of the Islam haters. Here's what one writer in a forum posted on July 08, 2009, "google Tahrirolvasyleh, and all you will find is the blah blah blah about the fourth volume of the book
  well, the book has no fourth volume. i now recall that a year ago davidylan and osisi were going on about the book, and sex with cows etc as well as their beloved 'thighing' some evangelist has been watching too much indecency ....
  the book only has two volumes....
  anyway, here is a link to the complete Tahrirolvasyleh
  
  http://www.al-shia.org/html/eng/books/fiqh&usool/islamic-laws/tahrir/index.html
  
  i would appreciate it if gen2genius or davidylan or osisi or ..... can provide us with the full text of the so called fourth volume, and not just the so called quotes on sex with babies and animals"
  
  I followed the link above and read quite a bit but I didn't see any signs that the book would have passages such as the one you quoted. There may very well be a book containing your quoted passage but the source attached to your quote does not appear to be genuine.
  
  let's spread more peace and no hatred

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  by borasalama on April 30th, 2011

• Aslama alaikum,bro!

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  by mike_70 on May 1st, 2011

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• He is not correct,,,,Child marriage is not allowed in Islam, it’s allowed after the boy or girl is considered to have the pubescent stage and when the maturity was achieved.
  Quran mentioned that there is a marriageable age but no age limit for puberty as it is varies with countries and races due to the climate; in HQ 4:6 “Make trial of orphans until they reach the age of marriage; if then ye find sound judgment in them, release their property to them..”

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  by nousa on April 24th, 2011