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by Arisztid on October 12th, 2009
Ok.
Do you really think with the MAJORITY of people in this nation being white and the VAST majority of money and power being in the hands of white people, that white people are really going to fall into such horrid discriminatory status as you claim?
White people are currently running about 70% majority in this nation. IF they become a minority, it is going to be a long time coming.
I have a question: I have lived as a minority person for 46 years and am going to live as a minority person for the rest of my life. I am a relatively well adjusted guy and any resident insanity is certainly not due to how I am treated as a minority.
Why, assuming white people become a minority, would that be so bad?
Another question:
All of the people who say "whites are becoming a minority/whites ARE a minority, the sky is falling, the sky is falling" are comparing whites to ALL OTHER ETHNICITIES. To be a minority you have to have less people than some other single ethnicity, not just all non whites. Those who say that are lumping ALL non whites together to claim that "whites are becoming/are already a minority."
by Nightwatchdog on October 12th, 2009
No.
by hugmexO on October 12th, 2009
wtfffff,NO
by Rude Bear Ready for Winter on October 12th, 2009
I have to imagine there are LOTS of scared white folk who believe that...
Personally I suspect that the lines between races are so blurred now, and will continue to blur, so as to become pointless in the near future.
by branciforte3241 on October 12th, 2009
That is the reasoning that kept blacks in slavery for so long. People were worried that if blacks got freedom, they would rise up and overthrow the whites. So the whites passed laws saying that the children of slaves were also slaves, and the cycle continued to spiral out of control.
I don't think it will happen. I think that parents will eventually stop teaching subtle racism to their children. Then we can focus on the real problem that's ruining this country: TWO DUDES KISSING!!!
by Stu B in his fleece-lined COAT on October 15th, 2009
White people never will be prohibited from attending schools or using public facilities, forced to sit in the back of buses, or barred from hotels and restaurants...sorry, but your question shows a serious lack of historical awareness...
by Stu B in his fleece-lined COAT on October 12th, 2009
doubtful...
by Wide Awake @ has closing date woo hoo on October 12th, 2009
Nope.
Only racists seem to mistakenly believe this.
by Dmitri on October 12th, 2009
Maybe, just probably not in the way we think. Slavery was not a bad thing in and of itself. It was how slavery was eventually used and viewed that was the problem, not the original idea of "slavery".
In the end though, all tax payers are being indefinitely enslaved by all this government spending that hinges on, yep, our taxes. Obama knows who pays the taxes and it is our problem, and not his.
by Nemo_S on October 12th, 2009
I have always found it interesting at the percieved and "Publisized" perscution of blacks, what I also find interesting is the lack of education except through some middle eastern religous teachings as to the nearly 1500 years of white persecution and slavery by both africans and arabs and the LIE used to invade other countries by both these groups, black are and have been used as a "surragate population" by certain people for hundreds if not thousands of years and there is certainly no better way to do that than to have a percieved on going conflict all the time what better way to steal what belongs to someone else than through fraud theft murder and extortion and that is exactly what you have going on in this nation and on this continent all hidden within their religous belief's all looking for crusaders and converts and always the attention focused somewhere else to achieve that goal and sooner rather than later it is going to blow up in ALL your faces for it ...
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I would recommend you all go home from wherever your ancestors are from before it is really to late to turn back..and yes the clock is ticking ...
~Nemo~
by SoulSearcher on October 12th, 2009
People keep asking question that I just have to answer even though I know I will be DR'ed but here goes. I believe that if something doesn't change both white and black americans are going to be the minorities. The mexican community(a large part of which are illegal) is growing by leaps and bounds.
by NoWhereMan on October 12th, 2009
History does have a habit of going round in circles! Check your history books on this topic!
by Factotum on October 12th, 2009
The only 'persecution' white people face is that we can be the targets of mockery and ridicule - on tv - that, were it turned towards minorities, would be considered out of line.
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And I'm pretty much ok with that. Compared to how black people were treated after slavery was ended...actually, never mind. These things can't be compared because they are simply too different in scale.
How would you react to a white supremacist who maintains his stance while talking to you?
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Comments
Give'em hell Arisztid
this person is an ass
the only validity I see, is the double std. in some races
you, being considered a minority, calling a black a ni**er would be arrested and prosecuted for a hate crime, but the reverse wouldn't be true if you were called a gypo by a black
whites, even being a majority are victims of the same prejudice as other races, it is just not considered as 'BAD' as the white doing it.
The question is why did you or other minorities, Jews, Italians, Irish, etc do well in spite of being a minority
I think it is because many minorities bond together is close knit communitites that support each other, which isn't the case in some ethnicities.
the only person who can oppress you in the US is the one in the mirror, I know I'm preaching to the choir to you.
I can't tell you how many times I've been called a cracker, Ni**er is not in the dictionary, but crackers is, If I call the person calling me a cracker a N I would be crucified +6
by qwerty on October 12th, 2009
I had that simmering away in me for a bit and he walked right into it.
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Nobody would be prosecuted for saying n*gger. However, I do agree with your point of the words "n*gger" vs "Gyppo" (that really is our equivalent of "n*gger"), and that an be expanded to "cracker," "spic," and more. That happens to be another gong I pound.
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I do agree that some ethnicities get away with more than others. I could not get away with [enter racist thing here] any more than whites. It is only specific minority groups that do. That is courtesy of lobbyists and politicians.
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Some minorities group together and help each other out. I have not had that option because I am of such a small minority (only about 1 million of us) that there are very few Rromani communities. I have never lived in such. We are not liked by any minority any more than by the whites. I have made it wholly on my own.
by Arisztid on October 12th, 2009
"the only person who can oppress you in the US is the one in the mirror"
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... yes, you are preaching to the choir.
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I have had my problems because of my ethnicity and am damn proud of myself for having achieved what I have because it is my responsibility to overcome my problems, whatever causes them. I was raised that way and really do not like race card players.
by Arisztid on October 12th, 2009
I really wish we could rate for comments
it's it funny that we have to *** for N but not for cracker, gypo and spic, kike, dago, etc
by qwerty on October 12th, 2009
I have wanted to rate up for comments forever.
by Arisztid on October 12th, 2009
I have thought about the asterisking of the word n*gger. I am so conditioned to asterisk it that it is hard for me not to.
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While n*gger is very offensive, being called Gyppo is just as offensive to me as n*gger is to blacks but I can type out Gyppo. I do not see white people who are offended by the word "cracker" asterisking it but they will asterisk "n*gger." Same with the rest of them, including "faggot."
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It is actually an ingrained thing for me that started in my earliest school years.
by Arisztid on October 12th, 2009
I was just pointing out that even when someone is havign a lucid discussion about words like this, you still can't type of say the word, in any debate on tv you have to say the n word, not the actual word
I figure if we are talking about race, we should be allowed to use the words since we aren't calling anyone them
if we didn't use the ** this thread would no doubt be makred as offensive
which goes back to ppl using the raced card un nessasarly, some ppl will also call foul on a tpyed or spoken word regardless of context
it's not that they are too sensitive, they don't understand how a real rasist would use the word, in their mind everyone who uses it, ever, is racist
by qwerty on October 12th, 2009
True about the asterisks and the thread being marked as offensive.
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The thing is about asterisking words is it is moot. Everyone knows what you are saying.
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I also do not give power to words like that. Yes, I find being called a Gyppo to be offensive, however, it is rather a distanced thing and, when referred to as such, I look at the person like the mildly distasteful insect they are and go on. Reacting like that serves a couple of purposes: 1) I do not get my knickers in a twist, 2) the person who calls me that gets nothing out of it.
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While it is offensive, I choose to see the ridiculousness of the person who utters it and that eliminates anything but derision and disdain on my part.
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I really do think the race card is overplayed and "racist!" is called too easily. I do not remember if I showed you this but this is what it takes for me to deem someone "racist" by their speech:
http://www.answerbag.com/a_view/7184673
by Arisztid on October 12th, 2009
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by Arisztid on October 12th, 2009
I couldn't open the link last night, worked ok today
by qwerty on October 13th, 2009
Well I certainly wasn't trying to be racist, I was just asking what people thought about it. Even while disagreeing with me both of you two were helping to prove my point, the word cracker is completely acceptable, but if I used the dreaded "N" (without the asterisks) word, my question/answer or comment would be removed quicker than a baby from a junkies house. Not to mention affirmative action, United Negro College Fund, Miss Black America. If white people tried this we would be crucified in the media.
by Self Consuming Cannibal on October 15th, 2009
Also Don Imus LOST HIS JOB because of one racist comment and his contract said he was suppossed to be "controversial and irreverant." Meanwhile Chris Rock says cracker so much you'd think he was eating chili. And what about Lisa McLelland? If you want a link I'll provide one. While I strongly disagree with you Arisztid, I think you made an intelligent and POLITE arguement unlike your rude friend qwerty. +4 Arisztid.
by Self Consuming Cannibal on October 15th, 2009
You misunderstand me and misunderstand my point. I, myself, do not consider the word "cracker" any less offensive than "n*gger." In this comment thread I was even commenting on how I have been conditioned to asterisk the one word while I am not conditioned to asterisk any other slur, including Gyppo, the version of "n*gger" for us. I would be as unlikely to call someone a cracker as I would a nigger. There, I wrote it, that was odd.
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In case you missed it, I state, clearly, that I do not like ANY ethnic slurs... any.
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I do not see how this proves your point.
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United Negro College Fund, etc. was not even in the question.
by Arisztid on October 15th, 2009
Chris Rock, I think, says both cracker and n*gger. I say "I think" because I do not like his stand up and do not watch it.
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Oh thankyou much for the points and the reason for them. I always do my best to be polite no matter if I agree with someone or not and try to present an intelligent argument.
by Arisztid on October 15th, 2009
I didn't misunderstand you or your point I could tell that you are not ignorant enough to be ok with ethnic slurs. I was trying to state that SOCIETY, NOT YOU, accepts the word "cracker" but not the dreaded N word. I believe that this helps prove my point by pointing out that you have been conditioned not to "censor" the word cracker, but you have been coditioned to "censor" the dreaded N word. Is it not racist that society (as a whole, once again not you) crucifies people for being racist towards blacks, but is totally accepting when someone wants to do the same towards white people.
by Self Consuming Cannibal on October 15th, 2009
I realize that United Negro College Fund, Black Miss America, affirmative action and Lisa McLelland was not in the question, it was just an example of the fact that blacks can have their own specific orginazations but if white people try that or even question those orginazations they are persecuted and deemed as racist. Chris Rock might use both words but that doesn't matter because Don Imus said racist things about whites as well, but he lost his job and didn't even use the N word.
by Self Consuming Cannibal on October 15th, 2009
Now I have to agree with you on that. Society DOES seem to feel that one is not acceptable while the rest are not.
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What racist things did Don Imus say against white people? I never watched the guy.
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Who is Lisa McLelland? Googling that gives too many results for me to nail it down.
by Arisztid on October 15th, 2009
The thing is, going back to your question, why do you not mention the rest of the people whose slurs go ignored? Using myself as an example, it is perfectly fine to call me a Gyppo and say "I was Gypped."
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If you are going to focus on one group that goes ignored, why not all?
by Arisztid on October 15th, 2009
we didn't prove your point, you asked if whites would be treated and persucuted like other minorities.
It's not going to happen, they fact is that all races are victims of some type of bigiotry, from one source or another. like I and Arisztid have said, the only person who can oppress you is the one staring back at you in the mirror
point is even if what you ask is true, I say so f**king what! only you or anyone else in a situation of discrimination, can overcome it and succeed.
What Artszitid and I don't like is when someone calls racisist when they is no reason to. Too many ppl pull the race card when someone disagrees with them, as opposed to when it is really needed
by qwerty on October 15th, 2009
Arisztid-I'm sorry about the Don Imus thing. I meant to say "I heard that Don Imus has said racist things about whites as well." But do you really think if I was a stand-up comedian and said cracker this and cracker that, that it would make it ok for me to say the N word. A lot of people seem to think it's justification for Chris Rock. Here's two links that will take you straight to the story with Lisa McClelland. http://www.brentmorrison.com/030929Caucasian_club.htm
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/09/20/MN227767.DTL
by Self Consuming Cannibal on October 15th, 2009
The only reason I'm not going on and on about other racial injustices is because I feel as a white man, I have enough of a battle on my plate as it is. I have to deal with affirmative action and the fact that if I disagree with someone black, I'm labeled a racist.
by Self Consuming Cannibal on October 15th, 2009
Qwerty-I don't like the race card being played either, but when a white man thinks he's the subject of racism, people either call or treat him like a racist, tell him to stop whining or remind him of what his dead ancestors did to some black peoples dead ancestors. You're attitude disgusts me. Arisztid is cool in my book, he can disagree politely, but you resort to calling me an ass, because I have a different point of view than you. I'm sure you'd be ok, if someone black was on here talking about some injustice they believe that they are facing.
by Self Consuming Cannibal on October 15th, 2009
"If I call the person calling me a cracker a N I would be crucified" This was taken right from your first comment. It's like even if a white man is called a racist name he better not say it back or he's a racist. What's next? If a black man hits a white man and the white man defends himself, will he be considered racist too? Maybe the white man will be labeled a Klansman and be charged with a hate crime!
by Self Consuming Cannibal on October 15th, 2009