Is there an active 'Mormon Mafia' functioning here on Answerbag? (The existence of the 'Mormon Mafia' has been substiantiated in a US Court see coments after Glenns answer for further information http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/4459/9463 )

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• Good answer.. I agree +5

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  by Vesper on March 13th, 2007

• Thank you for your answer. Believe it or not, I do get very tired of these wars too. I respect the rights of others to believe as they wish and I just wish that others would just extend that same respect to me. However, as you noted, when someone does attack my religion, I do defend it. I don't apologize for this at all.

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  by Glenn Blaylock on March 13th, 2007

• The predictable happened: just got dinged with a -2. Wonder why that took so long, LOL.

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  by Jodie44 on March 13th, 2007

• I would like to give you a +6 but can't because this public computer is being tweaky... OH, there it goes!!!. congradulations... +50 in a question with 0 points.

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  by TAPriceCTR s son is wearing his COAT on August 11th, 2009

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• What about the court ruling? You said 2 or 3 witnesses! You owe me a very big apology. You do this every time that you are shown to be wrong, break down into an ad hominim attack is a very obvious logical fallacy. Keep it up, you show what you and your cult are like.

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  by science_geek on March 13th, 2007

• Science_geek, I know from experience how people like you take things out of context to make them say what you want them to say. As such people such as you don't make credible witnesses. I submit the one who claimed that we implant tracking devices in our children as an example of the paranoia that you show. Who in their right mind would take such people as credible?

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  by Glenn Blaylock on March 13th, 2007

• Glenn - I find the tracking device claim to be pretty funny, and I do not give it credence. There is however a functional Mormon Mafia. You must surely know this. You all conspire to further your interests together all the time. I know that as I was raised in the Church, and I have seen it in action from both sides. You are the Liar here and you must surely know it. Is it acceptable for you to lie in the service of you Church? Obviously. The evidence is mounting rapidly. Thank you for being such a fine and shining example of what your 'faith' does for you. It helps me in my openly stated goal of helping innocents to avoid the pitfalls that your cult sets to ensnare them into being a dupe such as you are.

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  by science_geek on March 14th, 2007

• It should be obvious to most readers, by now, science_geek, that your “Mormon Mafia” — along with nearly everything else that you've claimed about Mormonism — is the result of your own paranoid delusions.  If this “Mormon Mafia” really existed, it would have much better things to do than to go after an insignificant nobody such as yourself.  There are much bigger, more prominent targets that would surely attract the attention of any such conspiracy; and it is extremely unlikely that anyone involved in such a conspiracy would even know or care that you existed.  You surely are the only person in the entire word who thinks that you are important enough or significant enough to be worthy of the attention of any such conspiracy.

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  by Anonymous on March 14th, 2007

• Why pick on someone who is trying to show you that Joseph Smith and his religion that he created is wrong. Joseph Smith claimed that he saw TWO PERSONAGES, Jesus AND God the Father. How can this be when John 4:24 says this... God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. ... So according to this you can't see God. Can you see your Spirit? Can you see someone else's spirit? Nope you can't, WHY is this? because EVERYONE has a spirit that has taken human form. God's spirit took human form as Jesus. So when you see Jesus, you see God's face(so to speak), yes, but you can't see two people, because God is a Spirit in which you can't see.

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  by JadeEzekiel84 on March 15th, 2007

• JadeEzekiel84, why not just accept that we have a different interpretation than you and respect our right to believe as we wish? Unlike you we don't go into the areas dedicated to other religions and try to tear down what you hold dear. You with your claims of a "Mormon Mafia" are trying to get people to think that we are trying to take over, that we descriminate against people of other religions or that choose to disagree with us. Well, I ask everyone to consider who is really behaving in that way here. Who is it that is attacking other people's religions? Who is it that is discriminating against those that believe differently. It is certainly not us. It is you, JadeEzekiel84, and those like you who can't respect the rights of others to believe as they wish.

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  by Glenn Blaylock on March 15th, 2007

• You can believe as you wish, and you are entitled to be wrong. Just give me an answer of WHY Mormons would write about their own Mormon Mafia? Why would we be able to find it? Wouldn't the Mormon Mafia want to keep quiet and not reveal itself? But in some cases, some people have been abused by them, and they have come out. Just because you do not like to hear it, people are getting hurt, amd it is by your religion. Keep believing whatever you wish, I have no control over it. I am just showing that things do exist, and the truth, instead of the twisted version. Like I said before....How can you follow someone who claims that they saw TWO PERSONAGES, when God is a Spirit (of whom is not a human) and Jesus who is the Human form of God. So anytime that someone saw God's face they saw Jesus. It even says that Jesus is the Human form of God. How can you believe in someone who started a religion based on lies? My religion, you don't even know what religion I am in...

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  by JadeEzekiel84 on March 15th, 2007

• and even if you did, I have proof, etc that can back up anything that tries to disprove the Bible. Excuse me if I am trying to make a difference in trying to get people to see the truth, that Mormonism was created based on lies. After they realize this, then they will still have the decision to stay there or go away. Maybe the truth hasn't been given to people, or another version. Unlike me, I have studied, I have gone to many different religions seeing which one would be the right one to go to, and come to find out, I love God, and I love the Words of God. The Bible is complete, and I don't need anything but the Bible to know what answers I need. God is not a liar, and God is not contrary. If anybody claims he is, they can show me where they think he is contrary, and I will show them that God is not. Unlike some religions I can defend my religion, because I live by the Truth, and the Truth is God.

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  by JadeEzekiel84 on March 15th, 2007

• and even if you did, I have proof, etc that can back up anything that tries to disprove the Bible. Excuse me if I am trying to make a difference in trying to get people to see the truth, that Mormonism was created based on lies. After they realize this, then they will still have the decision to stay there or go away. Maybe the truth hasn't been given to people, or another version. Unlike me, I have studied, I have gone to many different religions seeing which one would be the right one to go to, and come to find out, I love God, and I love the Words of God. The Bible is complete, and I don't need anything but the Bible to know what answers I need. God is not a liar, and God is not contrary. If anybody claims he is, they can show me where they think he is contrary, and I will show them that God is not. Unlike some religions I can defend my religion, because I live by the Truth, and the Truth is God.

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  by JadeEzekiel84 on March 15th, 2007

• and even if you did, I have proof, etc that can back up anything that tries to disprove the Bible. Excuse me if I am trying to make a difference in trying to get people to see the truth, that Mormonism was created based on lies. After they realize this, then they will still have the decision to stay there or go away. Maybe the truth hasn't been given to people, or another version. Unlike me, I have studied, I have gone to many different religions seeing which one would be the right one to go to, and come to find out, I love God, and I love the Words of God. The Bible is complete, and I don't need anything but the Bible to know what answers I need. God is not a liar, and God is not contrary. If anybody claims he is, they can show me where they think he is contrary, and I will show them that God is not. Unlike some religions I can defend my religion, because I live by the Truth, and the Truth is God.

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  by JadeEzekiel84 on March 15th, 2007

• As I said before. God says to spread His Word and speak the Truth, and that is what I am doing. If you still believe (just like back then, Jews didn't even believe Jesus was walking on the Earth, even though He was right there in front of them.) that what you are believing is true, then that is your choice. I have done my job and that is present the truth. As my Mother has done with me, she is blunt and to the point, and even though I may not like it because it makes me wrong, I see later on, that she was telling me the truth. You see, just because you may not like what I am saying, I am saying the truth. I love everyone, and everyone is entitled to be wrong. I speak the truth. Just because you don't like anti-Mormon websites, like I have said before, you can't use the Bible to prove the Bible, you have to also use outside resources, and that includes anti-whatever religion you are sources. God's word has been backed up my anti-Christians, and other religious people as well.

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  by JadeEzekiel84 on March 15th, 2007

• Bob, as I have repeatedly stated before, the Mormon mafia targets those who are unlikely to be noticed. They attack the weak. You and or your brother, Glenn stated that if even one or two witnesses could be produced that you would then give my claims credance. Yet now, with the witnesses having been produced, you attack the witnesses. Why don't you just admit that you are at a loss to explain why so many despise your evil cult? They HAVE done evil to me, my family and many of my freinds and acquaintances repeatedly over the years. They are blood suckers, (no insult to vampires or leaches intended they at least most likely have honor) and cause tremendous damage to the individuals they single out. I do not care that you and Glenn are dupes, you are most likely too far gone to ever see it for what it is. I simply and clearly wish only to help others to avoid the pitfalls of Mormonism. Tell me what my lies are, Bob, since you seem always to call everybody with whom you disagree a liar.

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  by science_geek on March 15th, 2007

• As a former "employee" of the CIA, I can state without hesitation that the CIA runs covert operations through the LDS church, not to mention the CIA and FBI recruiting of mormons. As an example, there is a Mormon law firm in Mesa, az knowns as Maxwell & Morgan. Take a look at Charles Morgan and his vast real estate holdings. That is his portion of the skim of dope funds. Take a look at Bob Caldwell of the Phoenix FBI who protects him......Take a look at Timberlodge Furniture in Salt Lake City. He was importing sofas' from China filled with heroin, and when he refused to continue doing so, they cut his head off....If the public only knew how dirty the church hiearchy is......

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  by Catcherintherye on December 7th, 2010

• Yeah, sure, whatever.

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  by Glenn Blaylock on December 7th, 2010

• I'm with Glenn on this one.
  
  Until we're presented with some actual evidence - without being told "look at . . . ", which is NOT evidence, it's a directive to the reader devoid of evidence - all these claims are suspect.

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  by Mister IT is trying to Liahona outta here on December 8th, 2010

• If either of you gents would like to supply me with a good name and address, I will be happy to send you my evidence, or should I just send it directly to the FBI, since that is where you are going to send it anyway...
  The house of cards will soon collapse.....
  I will send you both a list of Mormon elders that have large amounts of cash in the safes in their homes, or should I just publish it here? What do think????

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  by Catcherintherye on December 14th, 2010

• YOU WROTE
  "If either of you gents would like to supply me with a good name and address, I will be happy to send you my evidence, or should I just send it directly to the FBI, since that is where you are going to send it anyway..."
  
  MY RESPONSE
  Well there you go Glenn, we're both a part of the conspiracy now!
  
  I would imagine that this is the first time that you and have ever been on the same side of anything Mormon eh?
  
  ;-)
  
  YOU WROTE
  "I will send you both a list of Mormon elders that have large amounts of cash in the safes in their homes, or should I just publish it here? What do think????"
  
  MY RESPONSE
  Oh by all means, publish it here.
  
  However, you'll also need to publish supporting evidence that said cash was obtained in the clandestine manner that you've outlined or you'll just get the "So?" response since some people - Mormons and non-Mormons alike - are good at saving money earning via conventional means.
  
  However, if the amounts are (verifiably) extraordinary . . .

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  by Mister IT is trying to Liahona outta here on December 14th, 2010

• Yes, the amounts are VERY EXTRAORDINARY.......But if I publish it, will I be arrested, tortured, killed (known as an Executive action)...Besides, do you really think you can save 2 million bucks by shopping at Wal-Mart or reusing condoms? An how can you save money when you have multiple kids (and multiple wives in some cases...As is is, 2 cars attempted to run me off the road in Magna, Utah, cops said it was "road rage", with 2 cars????

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  by Catcherintherye on December 14th, 2010

• Uh huh . . .
  (with strong air of skepticism in vocal tone)
  
  OK then!
  Well good luck with all that.
  
  I'm out.

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  by Mister IT is trying to Liahona outta here on December 14th, 2010

• Send me an address, I will send you the rcordings of conversations I had with the NSA, it will blow your mind, (if you have one). Are you afreaid of these assholes? They could not get away with this shit if people would stand up for themselves...
  By the way, Google Sidney J. Zabludoff of the CIA...

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  by Catcherintherye on December 14th, 2010

• Obviously, this site is run by the NEW NAZI gov, since they have removed the stuff that I posted that they know is true.
  GUYS, YOU SHOULD NOT TRY TO RECRUIT PEOPLE WHO WILL NOT DANCE.....
  MORMON OPERATIONS WILL SOON BE EXPOSED FOR WHAT THEY REALLY ARE!

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  by Catcherintherye on December 18th, 2010

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• There is no “blessing of genitals” in the church, and there never was.

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  by Anonymous on March 14th, 2007

• Your comments are rude and untrue. If you don't want down ratings, be polite, respectful, accurate, and honest.

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  by Rockie on May 8th, 2009

• +4 4 u

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  by Joseph Smith was a fraud and Eisegete on August 30th, 2009

• Yes, the LDS "church" does baptize dead people, Jews especially, as you might know that the Mormons own all the Ellis Island records. Further, Sidney Zabludoff (do a Google), is a very high ranking CIA official, has repeatedly warned the "church" not to do that. They still do however, and it is a weak demand, as many drug and money laundering operations are run out of the LDS Church, not to mention that the so called missionaries get recruited to spy on other countries.Lots of Mormons will acknowledge attempted recruitment by the CIA, FBI, and other agencies that you never heard of.......

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  by Catcherintherye on December 21st, 2010

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• OK, it finally dawned on me that "Mormon Mafia" refers to the Danites. The Danites were a group of Mormons who returned violence with violence (including burning down the houses of those who burned down Mormon houses). Joseph Smith Jr disbanded that group when he became aware of their activities.

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  by laie_techie on January 4th, 2009

• Are you kidding me? Brigham Young made good use of the "Danite Warriors" as evidenced by the historical witnessed account by Ann Eliza Young's "The 19th Wife." Blood atonement was fully utilized e.g. suicide or murder of dissenters, sinners, and apostates as evidenced by a sermon by Apostle Grant AND Brigham Young (in the same conference). Here are the infamous words of Grant regarding the unhappiness of ALL of the women in the church regarding polygamy and asking for all sinners to come forward so that "we can shed their blood." This is all now hidden behind a good public relations facade, but the church needs to repent of polygamy, satanic blood oath "suffer my life to be taken" temple oath requirements for divulging secrets, and altering the Book of Mormon changing the identity of God (Mosiah 15:1-5, Alma 11: 23-40, Ether 3:14) as prophesied. The "plain and precious" truths of the Book of Mormon were taken out in 1837.

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  by truth seeker on July 22nd, 2009

• As declared by Apostle J. M. Grant on September 21, 1856 in a church sermon. He called for personal blood atonement (Mormon Mafia at work) and rebuked wives for complaining about polygamy.
  “I would ask how many covenant breakers there are in this city and in this kingdom. I believe that there are a great many and if they are covenant breakers we need a place designated, where we can shed their blood... And we have women here who like anything but the celestial law of God; and if they could break asunder the cable of the Church of Christ, there is scarcely a mother in Israel but would do it this day. And they talk it to their husbands, to their daughters, and to their neighbors, and say they have not seen a week's happiness since they became acquainted with that law [plural marriage], or since their husbands took a second wife. Journal of Discourses, vol.4, pp.49

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  by truth seeker on July 22nd, 2009

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• Yes. The Mormon Mafia is an all pervasive force. Especially in the Intermountain West.

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  by science_geek on March 12th, 2007

• The latter link is to a story of dubious credence, alleging that the supervisor of an FBI office was successfully sued for discriminating in favor of subordinates who were Mormons, and against subordinates who were not. Googling on key names from this story entirely fails to bring up any credible sources for this story. If true, it's an account of one person who was LDS, engaging in improper practices; hardly any kind of evidence of any conspiracy or "mafia". The first link is more interesting. It tries to tie Mormons and Danites to some bizarre UFO conspiracy. Truly the stuff of crackpots and kooks. I suppose it says a great deal about JadeEzekiel84 that he/she/it regards anything from that story or other stories on that site as credible.

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  by Jabba The Hutt on March 13th, 2007

• If you read that site carefully you would see, they started that UFO to hide who they truly are, hence the M.I.B. Just like every other Mormon on here, you like to criticize who I am, & what I say. Just because the sites are by anti-Mormons, does not mean that these sites are not Credible. As I have said before, you can't prove the Bible by using the Bible. You have to have outside resources, and by all the Mormons that I have encountered on here, NONE of you want me to use outside resources to back up my claims. ALL of you claim the outside resources are false. That to me sounds exactly like a CULT. Cults to not want anything from the outside to be made true, so they say don't believe what you hear from Outside resources. HOWEVER, my faith though I do not care if you bring in outside resources, because all of the resources that you bring in that say they disprove the Bible, etc I can show you EVIDENCE to prove otherwise. I don't use the Bible to prove the Bible's innocent.

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  by JadeEzekiel84 on March 13th, 2007

• Yeah, whatever. Discerning readers may read what is at http://business.gorge.net/zdkf/kufol/kol-kss.html for themselves, along with what is found further up that site at http://business.gorge.net/zdkf/kufol/ and http://business.gorge.net/zdkf/ However you wish to interpret or defend the claims made there, this truly is, as I said before, the stuff of crackpots and kooks; and it certainly does say a lot about your own grip (or lack thereof) on reality that you give any credence to this site.

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  by Jabba The Hutt on March 13th, 2007

• As I said before. You are afraid of the truth about your Mormon religion. Stop assuming I am. Back up your own own statements that these people on the site, and that I am a crackpot and kook, if you can't and I am sure you CAN'T, then stop calling names. At least I backed up what I had to say, NONE of you, Including YOU, haven't been able to back up your dirty mouths, and minds.

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  by JadeEzekiel84 on March 14th, 2007

• Truly, I think that any sane person who examines http://business.gorge.net/zdkf/kufol/kol-kss.html http://business.gorge.net/zdkf/kufol and http://business.gorge.net/zdkf will agree with my characterization of it as the stuff of kooks and crackpots; and as a very poor reflection on the credibility and mental heath of anyone who actually finds anything on that site to be believable. I see little point in trying to continue to attempt a rational discussion with a madman.

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  by Jabba The Hutt on March 14th, 2007

• Like I said, provide proof that these people who said anything in this website is a crackpot. As I said before, you can even ask the people. Also if you would like, you can type in the Words "Mormon Mafia" and there is over 900 sites with those words, more than half of them have to do with people being subject to the Mormon Mafia, etc. I understand why you are being so harsh to me, it is because this type of stuff, discredits your religion, like a lot of other numerous things. Like Joseph Smith not actually seeing God's face, or Jesus. But instead the Devil, because the Devil can pretend to be an Angel, considering the Devil was a Fallen Angel who thought that he could be God. Anyway, another thing, is that your religion changes all the rules, and says that the way to get to Heaven is to PAY YOUR WAY, by TITHING. That is a bunch of crap in a bowl. You right there by your religion, is calling God a liar. So back up what you are saying, or else, you are talking out your ears.

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  by JadeEzekiel84 on March 14th, 2007

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• I am well aware that my father, Dr. Richard Vetterli was a ghost writer for Elder Holland. When you say he knew of the corruption of LDS leaders, what do you mean? As far as I am aware, my father was a devoted Mormon until the day he died of Colon Cancer. His illness was not mysterious, although it was certainly tragic. I'm Richard Vetterli's daughter and although I respect my father's memory very much, we do not share the same beliefs. If you are aware of any information about my father which would interest me, I'd love to talk to you. amyvetterli@yahoo.com

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  by aelizabeth on November 30th, 2010

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• Speaking of Mafia, if it were not for the ZION's BANK, the real mafia would not have been able to bring money into Las Vegas, which is and has ALWAYS been controlled by Mormons.....And there are several high ranking Mormons who have lots of cash in their safe from the "skim" of CIA dope sales operations. And the IRS has a section in its building in Washington that does nothing but go after CIA "money laundering" ops....

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  by Catcherintherye on January 29th, 2011

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• Like Bob Caldwell of the Phoenix FBI office for instance...He only has one wife, not trying hard enough......

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  by Catcherintherye on December 18th, 2010

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• Someone reads all three of my answers on this question and neg's me 3 times, without leaving a comment. Amazing!

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  by Anonymous on November 23rd, 2009