I used to think that myself. That is, until I met my wife. Then I had to take a better look. If you are nice, others just have to take notice.

No, I don't believe that has to be the case. It just depends on who your crowd is.

To some extent yes, but you have to define what it is to finish last. The usual definition of 'nice guy' that I tend to observe is that the 'nice guys' aren't the agressive, pushy type. Those tend to be the guys who 'finish first' by pressing girls into having sex for example. Those also tend to be the guys that are lately being accused more and more of date rape. To that extent, 'finishing first' has some consequences that may make it not so worthwhile in the end in that particular instance. Remember that the world isn't really a race. (despite what some may tell you) Everyone needs a niche to fit into, so instead of worrying about how you're doing in relation to others, find a niche you're comfortable in. If you're a nice guy, live up to that reputation, as there are benefits to being the nice guy as well.

Not true at all, unless you are in middle school or maybe high school. I was able to meet, hang out with and date some incredibly beautiful women in college using this principle: as long as you treat all women with respect, you will do fine. In other words, if you find a friend or coworker undesirable for any reason, do not shun her or be rude. Remember that she has friends, and chances are that she will have good looking single friends. Chances are she will be willing to put in a good word for you if you ask. Girls tend to like the bad boy qualities at certain stages of their lives, but come to realize that is just an empty fantasy sooner or later. Unfortunately, we have to wait patiently until they figure this out. The one problem with this rationale: some "nice guys" fall into the perpetual trap of feeling sorry for themselves and letting all women know that they are nice guys and can never get the girl of their dreams. This guy will sit at a bar and say to a girl, after buying her a drink, "I just don't get it. I never get any dates. I am a nice guy with a good job and come from a good family. Life is so unfair." At that point, the girl thinks, "what a loser, I'm outta here." Girls don't want to hear guys whine about their horrible dating adventures. Then the guy will have even less self confidence the next time he talks to a new acquaintance. Go out, be yourself, and let your actions do the talking for you!

In my experiences of over half a century now on this planet I have seen where this is true often especially in business and personal life. Nice people tend to be more sensitive and more considerate of other people's feelings and consequences often to the point of letting other people misuse, abuse and/or take advantage of them. I know because I am, what many people that know me would say, a nice guy and it has taken a toll on me occupationally and in personal life. Consequently I have learned to be more assertive and take less crap off people. A good example of this is telemarketing phone calls. If you are too nice you will never get off the phone with some of telemarkers and might even end up buying what they are selling. Some people just hang up on them but I am a little more considerate then that and more likely to say "I'm not interested and hanging up now. Goodbye". A lot of us don't like feeling like a jerk but sometimes people deserve that quite frankly. And there are ways to say "no" or "leave me alone" that are nicer than other ways. You can say "%#@* you - leave me alone" or "I'm sorry but I don't want to deal with this now". A lot of us could use some assertiveness training and some need anger management training too. It's important to know we all have a breaking point and if you're a nice person your 'crap' tank is a lot larger than non-nice people but if you let it fill up and overflow you might see a side of your self you didn't know existed and it might not be too pretty. So learn to stand up for your rights and go on without guilt feelings.

Aside from generally being opposed to broad generalizations....I go with Elwood P. Dowd on this one. (Jimmy Stewart in the movie "Harvey") [Years ago my mother used to say to me, she'd say, "In this world, Elwood, you must be" - she always called me Elwood - "In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant." Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. And you may quote me.] Ultimately comes down to which race you're running - yours or theirs.

The benefit of my many years of experience tells me a lot of reasons why it seems as if nice guys finish last with women. Younger women want to feel safe and cared for. A "bad" guy might seem stronger and more capable of protecting her. Younger women like excitement, angst, and sometimes think it's a kind of romance. They imagine breaking thru a wall around a guys heart and having him surrender and be filled with her healing love. Older women are more independant and know more of what they want in a man. A man that is comfortable in his skin and exudes a quiet confidence in himself. That kind of man won't be a wimp, and he won't be a bully. Everything else will follow. One more thing. I have found that even nice guys, especially younger ones, put a girls looks above everything else. They often go for girls much better looking than themselves. Combined with the above, sometimes they win, sometimes they lose.

Nice guys finish last because, though we don't want to admit it, society as a whole, chooses them to. C'mon, admit it. Nice guys are like the "McDonald's" of emotional fulfillment. Think about: We all LIKE McDonald's well enough, but you'll only go there if you're really hungry and something better is unattainable at the moment. That's how nice guys are: Good enough to lift your spirits, or be a shoulder to cry on, but not someone you want to be with for a long period of time. You see them all the time, but the only time you stop by is when you need to feel better about something and you know they'll be there. Just like McDonald's. I have to be fair and say that there are a probably an equal number of "nice girls" out there who go through the same thing. They get taken advantage of just like the nice guy does. They deserve better also. It will continue to happen because the only ones who are affected are the ones who don't always have it in them to speak out in such a way that others will pay attention and really think about what they're doing. I'm a nice guy, and I know all I can really do...is just wait.

although nothing in this world is 100 percent, but I think the problem is that a nice guy doesn't pick a women, he waits till a women picks him. this is the nature of being a nice guy. normaly you don't expect a stunning girl comes to you while there are many well trimmed men out there willing to buy, unless it is in a movie or she is looking for a rebound or you have some extraordinary capabilites that no other man has it (again, sounds like a movie). but in general I don't beleive in looser or winner in a long run. it is all perception. being a nice guy after all is not a bad thing, I beleive they are more successful in their job/education and hopefully in their relationship if they learn from the past.

Allow me to explain. When you say "nice guys" what pops into my head is a guy that does anything and everything for the girl he's dating. A girl wants a guy who pays attention to her, but not somebody she can walk all over. Plus, if you spoil a girl, all the sweet little things you do don't really mean anything to her anymore. They just become ordinary, and you'll be taken for granted.

I have come to the conclusion that being a nice guy or bad guy has nothing to do with whether a woman will be interested in you - it is ENTIRELY built on the notion of confidence. If you believe in who you are and that what you are doing is right, you will encourage a woman to engage you in conversation, will prevent her from questioning her motives, etc. In a nutshell, by extending your hand confidently, you will inspire another person to act likewise - a confident person is not afraid of being vulnerable with their thoughts and feelings, and that forms a very solid foundation for a lively and healthy relationship. Now that is not to say this comes easily - in fact, for many years I felt that being a good guy (not using cheesy pick-up lines, not trying to be coy or flirtatious, not trying to get down a girl's jeans all the time) was making me into a relationship failure. Well that all changed when I discovered the websites and 'science' known as SS or speed seduction! Yes, friends, there are plenty of sites that tell you exactly how to manipulate conversations and use body language to achieve results in bars. I was astounded and many women who I have talked to have gotten nauseous when I have told them what these sites say - not because the sites are wrong, but because these girls know that they have been tricked by these guys. Or at least approached... How do these sites work? By EMULATING what GOOD GUYS DO! Yes sir, I was SO SHOCKED myself, but all of the tricks of the trade that I previewed were things that I did naturally - things like making healthy eye contact, reflecting conversation and interest, indentifying a woman's feelings and remembering what makes her feel that way, etc. EVERY TECHNIQUE that these guys use is proven to work and I have seen it done in many bars here in Boston. It is entirely possible for SS guys to get the women you have been interested in, and what's worse, if you are a nice guy, they will succeed not because they are 'nice' but because they are EMULATING what you do by your good nature. The funny thing about these SS sites is that they really could use this information for good instead of evil - they use this information to try to get laid every night. As a good guy, I was really encouraged to know that all of the things that I thought would never get me anywhere are in fact the very things that these high-tech sleazeballs are trying to pretend they have! So if you are a good guy, take heart in knowing that if you sincerely care about people and really are able to connect with another person and want to please them, you will succeed. Now armed with that confidence, you'll find that you will develop better friendships and relationships along the way, especially in the case of women who may otherwise be out of your league. I think the biggest lie we have been told is that women want the bad guy. HAH... WOMEN do not want that - GIRLS do. Women who value companionship and intimacy for the long-term would love to find that without the hassles of baggage and without having to engender it through a lot of therapy and hard work. If you are confident, you will wear your good nature outside where women will see it and be attracted to it - actually, you'll find that other good guys will befriend you and that in general your life will improve. So the answer to the question is: No it is not true that nice guys finish last. Guys without confidence finish last.

Yes it is. Unless that nice guy also happens to earn gobs of cash. The reason is that we present no challenge whatsoever to women. They need conquests as much as men do. Women need proof of accomplishment, and that currency is change. Women don't need to change a nice guy. So they feel less special, like anyone you'd date would get this treatment. So you're in the Friend Zone, pal. You'd make a great friend. Now a bad guy, that's a challenge. They set about trying to change him, and measuring success by that. Because if they succeed in the conquest, they feel special, superior, to all the women he's dated and wouldn't change for. They can measure this success, while there is no equal measure for a nice guy who just gives of himself. Occasionally, you'll find a nice guy who will keep giving and giving. This involves the woman who thought she got a bad guy, and now must test the nice guy to see how far he'll go. Just measuring. The irony of all this, is that nice guys LITERALLY get to finish last... as women finally lose their illusions and decide to find a nice man. So nice guys, be patient, we get to go last. One last kick in the gut, though.... often when we finally meet a girl tired of rotten apples, she may come equipped with a little baggage. The mistrust of men, the hurt of losing out again and again... and we get to deal with it, finishing last as usual.

Nice guys finish last because a girl wants a guy that has that animal instinct for her... He's not willing to let any guy look at her. And truthfully, the younger woman DO want a typical "BAD BOY" because they seem like they have that passion that woman desire.Nice guys bore women.Sorry to say. Unless the nice guy is extremely good looking..... What us young woman look for is the "alpha male"... Power, looks, confidence,and humour (the top guy in our own"little book") Sense Of Humour can get you a LONG way, whether you're a nice guy or not. Crack a Joke, make the ladies laugh.. But one thing is... that all guys should know, if a girl says NO 4 times, it means no.... the persistant guys that don't take no for a answer.... are not going to get any further.and just drives us away..

Yes and No. In High school and middle school, girls always drool over the retard in the corner cursing at the teacher and being on a first name basis with the principle. \"Nice guys\" are there for the convience of the girl. She sees you as a male companion who is not a \"threat\" to her. I mean threat as in someone who she would be interested in. She basically treats you like you are gay. You're the guy who is always there for her when she needs someone. Needless to say, I'm a former nice guy and i've been driven to the dark side by the amount of girls that have screwed me over. The easiest solution is the show them you will not be stepped on. If she wants to \"bad boy\", let her have him. She'll be coming back to you soon enough....

Yes and No. In High school and middle school, girls always drool over the retard in the corner cursing at the teacher and being on a first name basis with the principle. \"Nice guys\" are there for the convience of the girl. She sees you as a male companion who is not a \"threat\" to her. I mean threat as in someone who she would be interested in. She basically treats you like you are gay. You're the guy who is always there for her when she needs someone. Needless to say, I'm a former nice guy and i've been driven to the dark side by the amount of girls that have screwed me over. The easiest solution is the show them you will not be stepped on. If she wants to \"bad boy\", let her have him. She'll be coming back to you soon enough....

YESSSS, well being a nice guy for many years, I have experienced many different happenings. First of all only a selected amount of women will love a nice guy for who he is in the first place. Women sometimes do love nice guys because they can control them and minipulate them to their liking. When you are such a good person people will try to get to you. It is fucked up. People (even those close to you) will try to piss you off and this is ridiculous. Why would god allow this to happen. A nice guy should have the best life possible but he usually gets the short end of the stick. That is why I have decided to step it up and stick up for myself and I have had more confidence lately. Also, no one messes with me and I feel like I am in control of everything around me for once.

Because they follow the agreed route for the race... the not-so-nice guys cheat and take short cuts so end up first.

-Cause they let or don't stop other people from getting there first. -Cause they have too much respect for the wife not to let her reach orgasm first.

Women, for some odd reason, seek adventure, or they like to try different things, perhaps. Instead of taking the easy and safe way, the nice guy, they take a different approach: a relationship that isn't so safe. This is highly debatable, though. In general, nice guys finish last, not only because of women's preferences, but because they put everyone before themselves. Therefore, they proverbially "finish last".

Because they always but other people in front of themselves, and by doing so, make their goals harder to reach. Women, in general, seem to prefer the unexpected and the insecurity of not-so-nice guys.

They want to be nice and let eveybody else feel good by not bieng last.

They don't. :)

Whatever you do, don't stop being nice! Being yourself may not have yielded a girlfriend, yet, but genuinely nice guys and gals develop their self-esteem, their integrity, their spirits, and their souls in ways that will keep them coming in first for a long time. Of course, we want companionship for validation and love and much more, but since we determine in what place we finish, can't that place also be first?

not true, I see a lot of nice guys in front of me and I'm running fast

They don't. It just seems that way, sometimes. In the long run, nice guys finish first, because it's really not whether you win or lose, but how you play the game that matters and lasts.

No. A lot of politicians, for example, succeed by being "nice guys". Whichever side of the political divide you are, people agree that when you meet them in person, both George W Bush and Bill Clinton are very "nice guys" in person - and they have made it to the very top. I have found that when company layoffs occur, nice guys get about two more chances than nasty guys. OK, they get laid of eventually, but managers wouyld always rather fire the nasty guy.

i don't think so... I think this comes from that fact that sterotypicaly most "nice guys" are push overs... when in reality there not. Just because a guy is "nice" does not mean he is physically incapable of being "bad" or "mean" or anything like that. He is what he chooses to be and what he thinks is right. People like the nice guy... for the simple fact that he is REAL and not impossible to live with. I think it would be the other way around... in the long run, the "bad" guy comes last...

Because they have low self-esteem and this way there is drama and something to focus on / blame when something goes wrong?

Guess you are finishing last huh!

Subconscious habit. They "attact" guys like that over and over again for reasons, I'm sure, THEY can't even tell you. It's not the "good guys'" fault.

I think so! Sometimes I think someone who is abusive has an overload of confidence in themselves to where they think they are the only people on earth and hate it when a woman challenges that. And a lot of women find confidence to be very attractive. But I don't want to get too depressive about because I am seeing someone now. We arn't together yet or anything but we both had a great time this weekend and we're planning on dating again this comming weekend.

My sons used to ask the same question. Seems alot of women were raised with chaos, abuse and low self esteem. Then they meet someone who is abusive and they feel "at home and comfortable" because that is all they know. Many break the cycle and many dont. There are millions of women out there, that are sweet and not into abuse and looking for a nice guy. Hang in there

A Psychiatrist said on a TV documentary that women are attracted by danger. It was a documentary on serial killers. He was explaining why it is that once a serial killer is caught, they start getting lots of love letters from all kinds of women, even marriage proposals. In a radio talk show another one was talking about women who marry abusive men because they are, without knowing, trying to solve some serious problems that they had with their fathers. When the man becomes aggressive they even talk to them like little girls, kind of reenacting a fight she and her father had in her younger years. They are trying to "Please Daddy", the Doctor said. Is this Psychobabble? I don't know but it makes me think...

No they don't. Doormats and bullies finish last.

yes

They don't. They're just picking out the wrong girls to start with in the first place. Don't settle for just anybody, wait...and find someone that likes you as much as you like her. You will, you will!

Not necessarily. Nice guys just have a harder time doing things than bad guys. Evil makes everything easier, but it always loses in the end, just like in Star Wars.

It only appears to be true when you use the world's standards of success.

The bad guys will lie, cheat and steal and sometimes kill the good guys. Being burdened will a set of morals and ethics does put one at a competitive disadvantage. It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you played that counts. I have Charlie Brown's Syndrome and I understand how it feels to finish last many times.

nice guy finish last but they'll be happy nice guys.

i don t know who came up with that statement in the first place,i ve been hearing it for years,and it seems as foolish now as it did twenty years ago.the first person that comes to my mind when i hear the expression ,nice guy,would be horatio on c.s.i.miami,i see him as being a nice guy,and i don t think that because he is a nice guy that he ll always finish last.the ones that always finish last are the ones that want it all and want it now and in the end they end up with nothing.

Nice guys don't finish last. We finish strong.

cos horrible man pushes in first!

nice guys dont finish last. they just let mean guys win out of pity. = )~

someone had given an answer http://www.stwing.upenn.edu/~jenf/writing/rant04.html

Because they aren't prepared to split their workload and get help. They fail to take credit for things that have done in the proper way.

It is certainly true that NGs finish last with ladies. I see allot of answers saying how women will mature when they get older and want a nice guy then, which is true but... By that time she has given her best, most youthfull and beutifull years to bad boys. Bad boys move in first when women are young and good looking. They have sex with them and enjoy them without making any commitment. Young women want to have fun and excitement, so they go for the BBs. NGs are just not edgy challenging or in any way exciting. When women start to age and the BBs have moved on to younger prettier girls, they have had their fun and now they want to find someone who will support them financially so that they don't have to work. They are looking for security at this point. It is typically for the nice guy to finally 'get the girl' aka marriage when her youth is spent and bad boys have already gotten this girl aka had-sex-with-her. Bad boys are sleeping with young pretty girls at little cost. NG's get them when they are used up(late 20s & 30s) and just looking for someone to pay their bills. They get a has-been aging woman at a heavy life long cost. And she is probably bitter for being used by bad boys. Therefore nice guys finish last, only getting the girl after bad boys have finished with her. Bad boys use (young pretty)women, (getting old)women use nice guys. That's just a fact of life. Sorry, NGs but this is what your are most likely to encounter. Perhaps change your mindset? What do you NEED women for anyways? If you want sex there is plenty of info on foreign sex tours online. Try googling it. There is always porn/hentai:) If you want a relationship... well I hope you don't mind old women that are used up and dysfunctional and may just divorce you to get your money and alimony. Perhaps just have a relationship and don't marry(cohabitation is legally considered marriage in some places like UK and Austrialia, and i believe canada, california and washington have some wacky laws as well. Know what laws effect relationships where you are). http://www.dont-marry.com/ for more information on the dangers of marriage for men.

Nice guys don't finish last, They are running a completely different race. I would know, I have felt that way but the one they run is much better.

as far as i know, nice guys finish last until the girls they talk to become women. then they are mature to know that a nice guy is better.

If it were true it would be an injustice, but it's not.

We just run a different race thats all.

original theory is that nice guys stay behind to help the losers. they might finish last, but they never finsih alone. give me a consolation prize and a good friend over a trophy any day.

Nice guys just have better stamina. ;)

The really good ones make sure the girl finishes first.

Maybe but, they collect alot of rewards on the way!

In my past experience with so called nice guys, it seems to me that there IS such a thing as being too nice. What THEY perceive as being nice sometimes causes problems in the relationship and makes them very unattractive. Like the guy that is simply "too nice" to tell his ex-girlfriend to stop calling and interfering with his current relationship. Or "too nice" to tell his friend to back off when coming on to his girlfriend right in front of him. Or "too nice" to speak up when he is upset about something so he stews in silence. Or "too nice" to break away from his parents at a healthy age. No woman likes an insensitive jerk. But on the other hand, women do like men that will take care of things and not be a wimp. It's time for nice guys to man up.

Sometimes, good things comes to those who wait... :-)

You can't win without ruthless tactics, something "nice guys" lack.

dude, girls pretty much ALWAYS finish last, if you knowwhat im saying/

Because they stop to help the injured and less fortunate along the way. A trait the bad guys are aware of (thought they don't understand it) and will take advantage of whenever they can.

Because they're always the ones you keep.

Not true I have never come last

Off to a late start? Or had to go to the bathroom?

A number of frustrated, horny women would strongly disagree with you.

Yes, I'm living proof. :(

Yes... last to get divorced... last to lose their jobs... last to lose the respect of their loved ones... last to end up friendless and alone...

no way they usually come in third or forth.

No way! I need me a nice guy around :)

Wouldn't know!

Nah. Slow guys finish last. lol

i'm still running

The Victorian's, in thier literature, always talk about the "Fallen Woman" but they are also the ones who established the "good guy finish last" syndrome! For any guy who is feeling htis way, i highly recommend reading "Far From the Madding Crowd" by Thomas Hardy. Its a story about a true Victorian Gentleman who gets the shaft time and time again, but gets the girl in the end. It also highlights how stupid us females can be in giving the good girls the shaft adn giong after the heartthrobs. Its a good book. Go read it. Its enlightening.

hm, this is funny actually. me and this boy were talking about this this morning. && i dont beleive so, no.

In my opinion, real nice guys do not finish last. Real nice guys aren't nice because they want to get girls. They are nice because they want to be nice without any dark ulterior motives. Why would I want to be with a guy who claims to be nice, when really he's just hanging out with all the "hot girls" and helping them with their problems hoping they'll "see the light", even though they already have boyfriends? How is that respect? That's a huge turnoff to me. Go ahead and call me a bitch, but at least I'm telling the truth. There is a difference between being "nice" and being "sympathetic because you want something".

Depends on how you look at it. They're are said to finish last because people tend to take advantage of very nice people. But it's the nice people who are reaping the rewards. It's called karma; what goes around comes around.

I agree with GoGet: everybody gets exactly what they deserve. Trust in the universe. Sometimes you get really really lucky and get a front row seat...

I would like to answer your question. I hope this answer will be helpful to you. The reason women date abusive men is because they do not know the man is abusive until they are in too deep. That is how an abusive man operates. Abusive patterns destroy a womans self esteem from being told she is ugly, fat, stupid, no one else will want her etc. If we knew which guys were the good ones and which one's to stay away from, I can assure you the majority would NOT choose the abusive man. I am not sure if you realize how widespread the abuse of not just women but men is. I know. I have been out of a verbally and emotionally and yes, sometimes physically abusive relationship for only 2 days and let me tell you, it is hell. I am not sure if nice guys finish last but I will tell you that I would sell my soul practically to find a man who would treat me as good as I treat him but so far it has not happened. Hope this answer helps you. Since it sounds like you are a nice guy, please, do not ever change since there might be someone out there for you. Everyone keeps telling me there is someone out there for me but I'm starting to wonder. All I ever find are abusive jerks. Jennifer

I agree with sad eyes...alot of people think that we are attracted to the bad boys when in reality they pose as nice guys and begin to abuse us later on in the relationship.

As a woman.. I like nice guys but I am not attracted to men who do not lead or who let women walk all over them.. I am not attracted to bad boys.. I outgrew that years ago. I am attracted to someone who is comfortable and confident with themselves.

The really slow ones do, yes.

nop!!! bad guys finish last cuz they do every thing !!!!

yes, but we are running a different race... problem is even marathoners only have so much endurance. women need to start seeing them BEFORE they are half way done with their lives.

Yes. Nice guys always get the sloppy seconds. Girls date the jerks, becuase they are ridiculous, then when they get pregnant they run to the nice guy to help clean up the mess. I wouldn't want to be a nice guy....

This one's easy. It's not a nice guy vs. bad guy thing. If given the option, I'm sure most women would prefer a nice guy. The real battle is between confidence vs. non-confidence. Nice guys rarely have confidence. They tend to shy away from firmly stating their beliefs and opinions, are often quite and passive, rarely go right up to women, and rarely stand up for themselves of their women. Jerks, sad to say, have confidence in abundance. They aren't afraid to approach women, they are very outspoken about their opinions, and they would never let someone step on them. THAT is why women prefer bad boys. If there's a nice guy out there who is confident, asserts his opinion, pats himself on the back and protects himself and the one he loves, he'll be getting laid right now.

This one's easy. It's not a nice guy vs. bad guy thing. If given the option, I'm sure most women would prefer a nice guy. The real battle is between confidence vs. non-confidence. Nice guys rarely have confidence. They tend to shy away from firmly stating their beliefs and opinions, are often quite and passive, rarely go right up to women, and rarely stand up for themselves of their women. Jerks, sad to say, have confidence in abundance. They aren't afraid to approach women, they are very outspoken about their opinions, and they would never let someone step on them. THAT is why women prefer bad boys. If there's a nice guy out there who is confident, asserts his opinion, pats himself on the back and protects himself and the one he loves, he'll be getting laid right now.

Sometimes nice guys are dating girls that just arent ready. My BF is a very very nice guy, and if we would have met 10 or 15 years ago, I wouldnt have been nearly ready...I had to off and screw up my life a bit - and play around with the bad 'boys'...I even made the mistake of marrying one - I woke up late - and learned the virtues of a really good MAN - and thankfully, not too late...=)

I believe so, but I don't know how much truth there is behind it and I couldn't tell you why.

many girls are just attracted to the rush and excitement of the bad boys, however as girls get older and want to settle down its the nice boy they'll be looking for so yes, nice guys seem to finish last, and have the last word

actually theres a band called nice guys finish first and the have a myspace...i believe they disprove that =-)

The problem with many "nice guys" is that they are not nice at all. They are simply manipulative and think they deserve to have everything because they are nice. That's not true niceness.

yes, because they stay in hiding where I cant find them.

if we finish it is by luck... we are invisible. on a more humorous note... "yes they finish last, when men finish they are done and it is not nice to leave her without atleast one."

yes cauz there weak and simple minded people. They don't seem to understand the world they see it in balck and white like doing good to others and good will happen to you it doesn't work that way. They are stupid for not understand this. This is why they are always left behind for dead, so it's true what they say Nice guys finish last^_^

What's wrong with being last? Enjoy it longer.

who knows? they ALL claim to be the nice guy, so how do you know which one really is????

sometimes, but they enjoy it more

yea that sounds about right

yes sometimes they do but not all the time..

Yes, I have only dated one really "nice" guy, and it took him way too long to finish...if you know what I mean.

Never!!